Every RU offensive play against Washington

[PhilaPhans]

It's a totally different game if Laviano doesn't make basic mistakes (like unnecessary fumbles early on). Justin Goodwin up the gut also isn't the best option.

Once we were down a ton from the early turnovers, we just started pressing too much.

 

[250andCounting]

Say what you want about the O Line. But if that's the best quarterback we have on the roster, then every recruiter at TCU and LSU needs to be fired

Neither of those QBs saw the field at that position at those schools. Recruiting is an inexact process.

 

[NickKnight 1]

Mehringer said he really heard it from the fans on Twitter for not throwing deep.

true story.

 

[RUBand]

My thoughts.....

Jeeze the blocking was bad. Difference in team speed between the two was scary. Hicks and Grant played well. Arch did fine as a receiver.

On many plays Laviano was running for his life. If he was quicker he'd be able to take off for a nice gain

 

[knightfan7]

Saban said its very hard for QBs to overcome a strong rush up the middle - throws everything off. You can't throw deep if you have guys on top of you quickly. If you don't have a Michael Vick or Manziel you're stuck. You don't want to chuck the ball on a prayer. I would prefer a safe passing game vs the TurNova offense. Brady can't do much with a strong rush either as Giants showed

You know what? If you think back most of Nova's Int's were on short passes where he tried to force it in to a small hole. I seem to remember 3 of his 5 Int's vs PSU being within 5-7 yards of the LOS. Same with several against KSU. One that went for a TD was on Rutgers side of the LOS. He was much better throwing deep usually.

I agree Laviano doesn't seem to have the arm to throw deep but he had little time to even try Saturday. What concerned me even more was how gingerly he ran after the fumble. QB's need to put a bad play behind them and move forward. He didn't seem able to do that.

 

[NickKnight 1]

Just wow,
I've never seen a QB running this kind of offense with less spring in his step.
His running ability, instincts and sense of urgency to see the field and make plays is nill
I don't care how bad the line is, Fran Tarkington at 50 years old would be more aware and elusive.

People are always saying he was picked over the guy with the arm,
because of his running ability, but the only thing I saw last and this year
his running is running for his life. Would it really hurt to shake things up
with a QB that can throw deep? From what I saw it couldn'g get worse.

 

[Caliknight]

Play Oden. He is the only QB on this roster that has a chance to run this offense.

 

[Bamm Bamm Rubble]

Say what you want about the O Line. But if that's the best quarterback we have on the roster, then every recruiter at TCU and LSU needs to be fired

Football recruiters are the worst talent evaluators ever... most of them could'tkeep their jobs if they were baseball, soccer and basketball Scouts.

 

[rucoe89]

Play Oden. He is the only QB on this roster that has a chance to run this offense.

I think they may try hard to RS Oden and that is why Gio moved up depth chart. Maybe it is starting to click for the kid and he will get a shot.

 

[kupuna133]

In order for this offense to be successful the QB has to be able to do 3 things.
1)Possess good ball handling skills.
2) Be able to stretch the field with his arm. Much less vertically but efficiently get the ball to playmakers in space
3)Not be afraid to stretch the field with his feet.

The QB we have seen does not have the skill set to do any one of the three with much consistency

 

[RUskoolie]

Just FYI you need a WR who can run by someone to throw deep...

 

[ashokan]

You know what? If you think back most of Nova's Int's were on short passes where he tried to force it in to a small hole. I seem to remember 3 of his 5 Int's vs PSU being within 5-7 yards of the LOS. Same with several against KSU. One that went for a TD was on Rutgers side of the LOS. He was much better throwing deep usually.

Well the 2 out of 5 INTs that were long balls showed Nova's ability to just ignore that receivers were covered by multiple defenders. I'll never forget the Navy INT where he just threw to guy with 4 defenders around him.

 

[hiwater]

Well that was depressing. You could see almost every play the entire Washington defense, except for the deep safety in the middle, within 5 yards of the LOS. How many times did Laviano throw downfield? I watched for 3 quarters and counted 1 long pass to Agudosi of which he was covered tightly and the pass was incomplete, and 2 other passes that looked like they were thrown more than 10 yards - call them immediate passes.

I don't care how many times he threw down field. RU still has to run some guys down field to clear out for the shorter passes. Just bunching all those receivers and DBs close to the LOS is just incompetence. It shouldn't happen once let alone every play.

 

[hiwater]

Just FYI you need a WR who can run by someone to throw deep...

Even if a DB is running in stride with the receiver, the advantage is still with the receiver on the throw. The DB can't surround the Receiver so there is always an opening. Even if the throw is not on the opening, the receiver is looking back and has the advantage adjusting to the ball. Just because a guy runs deep does not mean you have to throw to him. It would still help the QB the reducing congestion close to the LOS.

 

[DHajekRC84]

PAINFULL 2:eyes:

 

[kupuna133]

Just FYI you need a WR who can run by someone to throw deep...

False. You need a receiver that knows how to get open to throw deep. There have been many successful NFL WR's who had long careers that you would not classify as burners. They know how to run a clean route and accelerate out of cuts to expose their coverage.

It also wouldn't hurt to create a schematic advantage. Need more WR, RB's being covered by LB's.

 

[Ruthinking]

I love Hicks as a runner, but if you're wondering why he isn't getting more mins or starting watch a replay of Laviano's 2nd fumble which was called back for the defensive holding.
Blitzing linebacker one on one against Hicks, all other rushers were being blocked, and Hicks completely whiffs on the blitz causing the sack and fumble. He didn't even get close to slowing the guy down.

This is why Hicks doesn't see the field more...blocking.

 

[RURM85]

I don't care how many times he threw down field. RU still has to run some guys down field to clear out for the shorter passes. Just bunching all those receivers and DBs close to the LOS is just incompetence. It shouldn't happen once let alone every play.

If he doesn't actually follow through and throw the ball downfield to some guys running downfield it really doesn't matter. The D will continue to call the bluff as evidenced by the Pac 12 analyst who cited Grant downfield with no Washington defenders within 20 yards of him and Laviano still threw a short pass

 

[miketd1]

This is why Hicks doesn't see the field more...blocking.

Very likely.

On spread teams, the RB is typically your 6th blocker (as opposed to a FB or attached TE)

 

[RUfromSoCal?]

#9 was devastatingly good.

 

[higgins3]

Not only did we not throw long, we did not throw medium either.

And I don't think one pass was thrown over the middle(well except that one).

Kinda what the giants are trying to do. Sh

Say what you want about the O Line. But if that's the best quarterback we have on the roster, then every recruiter at TCU and LSU needs to be fired

Qb can never be above average with a bad o line. Also, gotta trust our coaches. One came from Os, and the other a Houston team that is over performing and doing very well.

Rutgers offense knows what they want to run, but they just do not have the right guy in the back. Wait for Lewis next year, and expect to see Gio R and Allen this year.

Ash is getting paid 3 mil. The talent is not great, at all, but he better at least keep it within 15 points.

 

[lilphilw]

I don't think Goodwin is good enough to start over Hicks. Hicks needs to improve on his blocking but there's no explosiveness from Goodwin and its painful thinking Hicks would've broke off a couple of those Goodwin runs. Goodwin is a 3rd down back to me.

Laviano.. Its hard for me to see what he's good at. He ALWAYS looks to dump it down. He doesn't trust his own arm. He stares at one receiver and then looks at the oline next instead of going to his next read out of fear. I'm even more discouraged after looking at that video

Washington has one of the top Defenses in the country but I just don't see too much potential in Laviano

 

[hiwater]

This is why Hicks doesn't see the field more...blocking.

He missed a block against UW. He was a very good blocker last year. He had a miss Saturday, but history is on the side that he is a good and willing blocker. He also does not go down with arm tackles or when someone reaches out and gets a hand on his leg or foot like Goowin did Saturday.

 

[hiwater]

If he doesn't actually follow through and throw the ball downfield to some guys running downfield it really doesn't matter. The D will continue to call the bluff as evidenced by the Pac 12 analyst who cited Grant downfield with no Washington defenders within 20 yards of him and Laviano still threw a short pass

True. Laviano has to actually look down field and attempt a throw once in a while so DBs don't just sit on short routes. Who know, he may actually hit one or 2 of them too. That will open up short passes and the running game more too.

 

[Alaska_Dawg]

http://www.scout.com/player/200915-johnathan-lewis?s=183 <--- this guy is the lone Rutgers QB commit so far ... what's the word on him as far as potential?

 

[gringo]

Man, some of those throws, late in the game, no pressure... they had zero chance to complete, why even throw it?! How about option 3 or 4 who are wide open?

 

[Yeah Baby]

View embedded media

It's only 13 minutes long. Washington didn't fear the QB running or the WRs out running them. For most plays they had 10 guys within 5 yards of the line of scrimmage, 1 deep safety and 7 guys in the box.

Rutgers never tried to extend the field and they had multiple opportunities. If this was last year with Carroo they would have taken more deep shots. When RU has 3 WRs to one side and 1 on the other, that 1 WR needs to beat the DB and make a play. Obviously that didn't happen. The DLs and LBs were focused on stopping the RBs but paid little attention to the QB.

Sorry bro but there wasn't stacking of the box at all. They ran a base D and the reason for only one safety is the other had to cover the slot. They rarely blitzed and when they did they dropped a DL into coverage.

Yes our brilliant fans tweeted Mehringer about the long ball but you fail to mention his reasoning. We tried a few times and could not get the pass off or it was covered. The one to Agudosi he had two guys near him and a third 7 yards away. Mehringer decided to call high % plays to keep the D off the field as much as possible. Football 101.

Fran Tarkenton?

 

[mildone]

Well, I'm gonna get killed for saying this. But...

Apparently unlike everybody else, after watching that twice, and "rewinding" often, I'm actually considerably more encouraged than I was prior to rewatching those plays. We're closer to competitive than I thought. I can now even see why the staff wasn't too down on Laviano after the game (except for the fumbles which has to stop). The offense improved throughout the game (discounting the fourth quarter when Washington put in its backups).

Washington's defensive speed is truly amazing. Especially their big men. Holy cow.

I might up my season prediction from 3-4 wins to 4-5 wins. Gotta see how we play against New Mexico first.

 

[DanceAppreciationTA]

I dont come from a football background so my thoughts below are prob flawed haha

0:45 Laviano Fumbles - Only looked at Grant and saw he wasn't free

1:35 - Again, doesn't even bother looking at anyone but Grant...receivers pretty much stood still at the end of their routes

1:47 - Just hones in on Grant and throws an air ball where Grant couldve gotten injured...Patton's route looked good and was free if he was hit in stride...safety shows up in the later frames

2:05 - Laviano is pressured quickly since Hicks misses the block or gets overpowered...Chris fumbles, need to hold on to the ball better

3:13 - Muller gets beat...underneath routes open if Laviano's able to scramble...not his fault

3:30 - Are QBs told to avoid contact? He lets a defender run right by him to get to Grant ... not that it mattered since two other defenders were on Grant right away

3:55 - Applefield & Denman get beat

4:14 - Laviano tucked to run and then threw!! That's what we need more of

4:25 - Laviano gets panicked again...throws successfully but had time

Gave up watching...

- Laviano is not mobile and that makes us one-dimensional...that itself would have been okay for this rebuilding season if he also wasnt so easily frazzled...He just gives up. Play calling is also definitely to blame...I'm not quite sure why we ran it up the middle so much

- What's up with the O-line, thought that was supposed to be a strength of ours?

 

[NickKnight 1]

I dont come from a football background so my thoughts below are prob flawed haha

0:45 Laviano Fumbles - Only looked at Grant and saw he wasn't free

1:35 - Again, doesn't even bother looking at anyone but Grant...receivers pretty much stood still at the end of their routes

1:47 - Just hones in on Grant and throws an air ball where Grant couldve gotten injured...Patton's route looked good and was free if he was hit in stride...safety shows up in the later frames

2:05 - Laviano is pressured quickly since Hicks misses the block or gets overpowered...Chris fumbles, need to hold on to the ball better

3:13 - Muller gets beat...underneath routes open if Laviano's able to scramble...not his fault

3:30 - Are QBs told to avoid contact? He lets a defender run right by him to get to Grant ... not that it mattered since two other defenders were on Grant right away

3:55 - Applefield & Denman get beat

4:14 - Laviano tucked to run and then threw!! That's what we need more of

4:25 - Laviano gets panicked again...throws successfully but had time

Gave up watching...

- Laviano is not mobile and that makes us one-dimensional...that itself would have been okay for this rebuilding season if he also wasnt so easily frazzled...He just gives up. Play calling is also definitely to blame...I'm not quite sure why we ran it up the middle so much

- What's up with the O-line, thought that was supposed to be a strength of ours?

 

[NickKnight 1]

Simple Ash was proud of the offensive line, but don't you need
a QB also?

 

[WhichReligionIsRight]

That was hard to watch. Simply put - three turnovers from Laviano. He was under a lot of duress all game, but eliminate the two first quarter fumbles + no special team returns for TDs and suddenly the game is not totally out of hand.

Grant looked terrific. Hicks should be the starter. Goodwin looks good in third down passing situations.

 

[Barnaby&Neill]

Anyone else think Cole looks pretty good in this film?

Not perfect of course, a few times he got lost on run block, and a speed rush got by him once or twice, but he doesn't get pushed around at all...I think we have a player at LT.

 

[TreyA]

Anyone else think Cole looks pretty good in this film?

This guy does.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/college-football-pff-dream-team-best-players-at-every-position/

 

[Barnaby&Neill]

This guy does.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/college-football-pff-dream-team-best-players-at-every-position/

Wow -- ok, he gave him even more credit than I did.

I'm not a "football guy," just a fan -- so good to know that my analysis wasn't way off.