Who did they beat to make you think they deserved anything other than a shot to play in a major bowl game?
When Rutgers went undefeated they didn't finished in the top 4 either. It was true then and it is true now.
Schedule matters a lot.
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Who did they beat to make you think they deserved anything other than a shot to play in a major bowl game?
When Rutgers went undefeated they didn't finished in the top 4 either. It was true then and it is true now.
Schedule matters a lot.
They beat everybody they played. That's all they could do.
The best Group of 5 team plays in a New Years Bowl anyway, guaranteed....
Why not make it mean something?
It does mean something, they get a chance at playing for a major bowl title.
Do you honestly think that any team from any group of five conference could even hang with Bama or Clemson this year? REALLY?
OSU and UW couldn't even do that, and both would crush boat rowing team.
All I know is Western Michigan SHOULD HAVE gotten the chance to.
No, they should have not, they didn't even crack the top ten.
If schedules didn't matter, the power 5 would only schedule FCS schools OOC.
No way the New Years bowls agree to host quarterfinal games. Attendance would suffer-bowl travel is expensive and fans will travel once. If you go to 8 first game has to be on campus before Christmas. Of course than exams get in the way. In other words it ain't happening.
Playoffs may never happen because of E$PN. Since they broadcast like all but 4 or 5 bowl games they control the inventory.
They want at least 1 game a night during prime time from Dec 17-Dec 27 before the bigger bowl games start.
If you have an 8 team playoff you are more likely to have games on Fridays and Saturdays the weekends of Dec 17th, New Years weekend, and the week after. You would need a plan to keep the inventory at bowl sites for the 2 weeks at the end of December.
It may work if:
Dec 16 / 17 - playoff quarterfinals on campus
Dec 18-27 regular bowl games for teams not in the top 8 (most likely G5 teams and 6-6 / 7-5 P5 teams)
Dec 28 - 30 - higher tier bowl games for mostly P5 teams that are 7-5 and 8-4
Dec 31 - semifinals
Dec 31 / Jan 1 - higher tier bowl games for losers of the Dec 16/17 games (ie. Michigan, FSU, USC, Oklahoma, etc...)
You would need bowl games for the losers of the quarterfinals for:
- bowls to have their traditional teams they want
- fans who want to see their team in a vacation location
- to prevent a coop where the bowls try work a deal with the P5 conferences to break away from the NCAA
- appease the networks (ESPN) since they make a lot of money with the bowls.
They want at least 1 game a night during prime time from Dec 17-Dec 27 before the bigger bowl games start.
If you have an 8 team playoff you are more likely to have games on Fridays and Saturdays the weekends of Dec 17th, New Years weekend, and the week after. You would need a plan to keep the inventory at bowl sites for the 2 weeks at the end of December.
It may work if:
Dec 16 / 17 - playoff quarterfinals on campus
Dec 18-27 regular bowl games for teams not in the top 8 (most likely G5 teams and 6-6 / 7-5 P5 teams)
Dec 28 - 30 - higher tier bowl games for mostly P5 teams that are 7-5 and 8-4
Dec 31 - semifinals
Dec 31 / Jan 1 - higher tier bowl games for losers of the Dec 16/17 games (ie. Michigan, FSU, USC, Oklahoma, etc...)
You would need bowl games for the losers of the quarterfinals for:
- bowls to have their traditional teams they want
- fans who want to see their team in a vacation location
- to prevent a coop where the bowls try work a deal with the P5 conferences to break away from the NCAA
- appease the networks (ESPN) since they make a lot of money with the bowls.
I actually like your idea, but thinking more about it, having six teams lends itself to more politics of who are the "best" top two. I say settle it on the field and have eight.
Legitimate gripe...but they said the same thing before they expanded to four..that attendance would be affected by the extra game. Hasn't happened.
I think bowls would be fine with qtrfinal games...if not I wouldn't be totally opposed to playing round of 8 on campuses
WHY? they couldnt even beat Wisconsin who you left off, why shouldnt Wisconsin get the chance instead of them
As I've stated many times..they didn't lose all season. It's ridiculous they didn't get a chance. Why should any MAC teams play any games if wins are meaningless???
As far as Wisconsin, they didn't win their conference. PSU did. Hence, wisky isn't in, and psu was. Has PSU lost conf champ to Wiscy, they'd be out and badgers in.
Ohio State and michigan, imo, had best resumes of teams who didn't win CC. Hence they are in. Of course, that sets up controversy..can't avoid it totally.
Not disagreeing, but then are MAC wins meaningless? Why does the MAC even have football? Why is the MAC FBS? All adds to the ridiculousness of the system of crowning a FBS champion if half the FBS doesn't even have the chance.
because they are not at the big boy plate when it comes to determining the national champion..too bad, there are plenty of bowls for them to go to, 30 years ago they would be going to the Independence Bowl with that unbeaten record to face 6-4-1 No Carolina State, they should be happy
Its very bad..which is why I'm trying to come up with a way to include them.
FBS should only be the power 5 conferences then.
I agree, though that's another discussion. Why are they FBS then??
So long as all 10 conferences are in FBS, every team should have a chance at the FBS title. They don't as it is now. That's not right, in my opinion.
Why even have a season. Just pick two teams to play for the championship, and everyone else can go to class. Saves a bunch of time for me. I can do something else on Saturdays. Wouldn't want to waste peoples times with an extra couple of playoff games.
If teams that didn't win their division or conference make the playoff, then it minimizes the importance of some of those in conference games.
This reminds me of the Seinfeld episode where Kramer takes karate with a bunch of little kids and beats on them all. I'm afraid opponents do matter they have to.
And if you take only conference champs then the out of conference games mean nothing. Basically, you would encourage a team like Penn state to schedule Louisiana-monroe instead of Pitt in the early season.
The whole season should mean something. Out of conference schedules should matter and count. They don't in many of the revised proposals.
As for going to 8, one example of the regular season being devalued might be this year's Ohio State v. Michigan game. Would not have been nearly as interesting if it was clear prior to the game that both teams would make playoff. That is what would have happened with an 8 team playoff.
That's just one game. Penn St/Wisconsin would have been much more interesting if they knew the winner would go...works both ways.
