Devil's advocate, has there ever been any thought that Flood's motivation for reaching out to the Prof was not football related, but rather him overplaying the father figure role and looking out for Barnwell the person? Perhaps he figured he was in a unique position where he actually has some influence, and can help Nadir in a way that reaches beyond football. Still a bone head move to break the rules, don't get me wrong. Just a thoughtHe sucks. What did you expect?
His whole M.O. was being a good, respectful guy and he proved to be the complete opposite. He showed that he had 0 control of his players and that he would violate the honor/ethics code when his back was against the wall.
...People don't take too kindly to that unless you are winning NCs and we are the furthest thing from that at this point in time.
If Flood wanted to be a father figure, he would've made sure the guy went to class and stayed out of trouble. Trying to get a guy eligible after he blatantly failed tells me he cared more about wins than the guys future.Devil's advocate, has there ever been any thought that Flood's motivation for reaching out to the Prof was not football related, but rather him overplaying the father figure role and looking out for Barnwell the person? Perhaps he figured he was in a unique position where he actually has some influence, and can help Nadir in a way that reaches beyond football. Still a bone head move to break the rules, don't get me wrong. Just a thought
Devil's advocate, has there ever been any thought that Flood's motivation for reaching out to the Prof was not football related, but rather him overplaying the father figure role and looking out for Barnwell the person? Perhaps he figured he was in a unique position where he actually has some influence, and can help Nadir in a way that reaches beyond football. Still a bone head move to break the rules, don't get me wrong. Just a thought
I was in 127 and barely heard anything.
Devil's advocate, has there ever been any thought that Flood's motivation for reaching out to the Prof was not football related, but rather him overplaying the father figure role and looking out for Barnwell the person? Perhaps he figured he was in a unique position where he actually has some influence, and can help Nadir in a way that reaches beyond football. Still a bone head move to break the rules, don't get me wrong. Just a thought
If Flood wanted to be a father figure, he would've made sure the guy went to class and stayed out of trouble. Trying to get a guy eligible after he blatantly failed tells me he cared more about wins than the guys future.
When he lied, broke the rules, and refused to listen to the academic advisor on his staff that told him to stopIt's amazing to me how some of our posters have completely turned on flood. What was the breaking point?
For me, it was the day after the recruiting class signed. A career assistant OL coach at Rutgers is somehow going to continue the trajectory and lead the program to a perennial top twenty five team?The fiasco that was the fall of 2013 (on and off the field).
Booing is the sort of behavior one expects from a two-year old that hasn't yet learned to control his emotions when he doesn't get his way. So yeah, you have the right, no question about it. The question is, what lack of self-awareness or self-respect causes you choose to exercise that right?Yeah, attack a random guy on a message board and not the guy responsible for this mess...I'm a fan, my family has been for a LONG time. I think I've earned the right to boo when I see a bunch of crap.
Kyle Flood isn't a good head coach, why we continue to pay him and hope that he will suddenly become one is beyond me.
For me, it was the day after the recruiting class signed. A career assistant OL coach at Rutgers is somehow going to continue the trajectory and lead the program to a perennial top twenty five team?
Was never going to happen, its too hard and if he had that sort of talent, he would have been on that path long ago. I was hoping for one year and out but then the defense gave us a great year and Rutgers decided to turn off the athletic budget spigot and we got stuck in the mud, where we remain.
Starting to think he's back no matter what happens this year. The financials are running this show and $950,000 is way better than $2.5 million.
Will never understand the B1G inviting us in and then starving us for what seems like an eternity. They certainly can't complain about the bad headlines, we don't have the money to fire and start over which is what any other vested member of the conference would have done with this situation.
I guess that's why stadiums of bad sports teams are filled with booing 2 year olds, smh.Booing is the sort of behavior one expects from a two-year old that hasn't yet learned to control his emotions when he doesn't get his way. So yeah, you have the right, no question about it. The question is, what lack of self-awareness or self-respect causes you choose to exercise that right?
Think positive, Flood will be fired and JH will hire a guy that will get this program back on track. I don't understand why people think that supporting Flood is the positive thing to do.For me, it was the day after the recruiting class signed. A career assistant OL coach at Rutgers is somehow going to continue the trajectory and lead the program to a perennial top twenty five team?
Was never going to happen, its too hard and if he had that sort of talent, he would have been on that path long ago. I was hoping for one year and out but then the defense gave us a great year and Rutgers decided to turn off the athletic budget spigot and we got stuck in the mud, where we remain.
Starting to think he's back no matter what happens this year. The financials are running this show and $950,000 is way better than $2.5 million.
Will never understand the B1G inviting us in and then starving us for what seems like an eternity. They certainly can't complain about the bad headlines, we don't have the money to fire and start over which is what any other vested member of the conference would have done with this situation.
Are you seriously arguing that because lots of adults at sporting events behave like children, that makes it a good thing for you to do as well? Or are you trying to say that a stadium full of people venting their frustration by making a sound like "boooo" is somehow not childish?I guess that's why stadiums of bad sports teams are filled with booing 2 year olds, smh.
Booing was barely audible from the 2nd level.Lmao stop spinning
We should start a hashtag aimed at stopping all booing at sporting events.Are you seriously arguing that because lots of adults at sporting events behave like children, that makes it a good thing for you to do as well? Or are you trying to say that a stadium full of people venting their frustration by making a sound like "boooo" is somehow not childish?
Play this argument out and I think you'll realize that there's no winning it. Nobody can stop you from booing. But you can't change the fact that it's a childish expression of frustration that, in a best case scenario, has no effect at all, but often has the opposite effect of what's intended.
I'd be happy if I get you to realize that it accomplishes nothing good and makes you look bad.We should start a hashtag aimed at stopping all booing at sporting events.
So, I should just accept the fact that we suck and Flood is responsible for it? I'll be cheering my ass off while watching the beat downs we get during this season. Go, Flood, Go.KJ...stay at home snd boo all you want. The situation is not great but stop reacting if this is the end if the world. Did Flood commit a crime or simply break a university rule that could have easily been handled in house?
The political atmosphere at Rutgers stinks. And how did all of this get escalated. Could it be that Rutgers PR is just not that good snd damage control is even worse when folks and administration think it is doing a good job.
And of course some of our own fan base contributed greatly to this. No question Kyle made a mistake in judgement and outside of university rules. Beyond that it is a simple we have met the enemy and they are us situation....and that includes some if our posters, fans and administrators within the University.
Just as an aside....could we imagine the reaction of anything with Barchi's picture etc would have been shown on the scoreboard or if he was visible in any way.
C'mon now. Didn't your momma teach you that if you don't have something nice to say you shouldn't say anything at all? Just don't cheer at all when things are going badly.So, I should just accept the fact that we suck and Flood is responsible for it? I'll be cheering my ass off while watching the beat downs we get during this season. Go, Flood, Go.
Apparently your momma taught you to accept failure...thank you mom for not doing that to me.C'mon now. Didn't your momma teach you that if you don't have something nice to say you shouldn't say anything at all? Just don't cheer at all when things are going badly.
wishful thinking bac? Did not hear a single boo. You guys are just greased up an ready to unload on the slightest thing. This board has become a disgusting trash heap of pissing and moaning over everything.
Our team sucking 4 years into a regime is low class.Booing is pretty lame, even against the other team. Booing your own team is low class.
Our team sucking 4 years into a regime is low class.
How dare you say that about such a nice guy!OMFG there is a really scary, TTFP like portion of this fanbase,
Flood was booed, FACT. Not the team, Flood. You had to be deaf not to hear it.
Flood broke the rules, FACT. He was told he was breaking them, put into writing he knew.
Just stop with the spin...who cares if they would have booed Barchi, FLOOD IS THE PROBLEM.
My god in my whole life I have never seen anyone anywhere else in any facet in life who is defended so vigorously to the point of the individual never having to own up to anything.
You know who wrote those emails- Flood. Not Barchi, Hermann, Schiano, Rossi, Cohen, whoever. Flood is the coach.
There is not a CEO in America who could get 7 employees arrested in 2 weeks and be subject to no scrutiny,
There is not a CEO in America who could rank last or dead last in so many categories and have everyone only blame the underlings.
To use a nice Brooklyn expression from my mom- Flood cooked his own goose. He set the lack of discipline and then bailed out someone who didn't deserve it in a moronic way.
He deserves worse than boos, and he's going to get it once he is terminated. It is coming, so get over it, and when it does, don't blame anyone but Flood.
How dare you say that about such a nice guy!
I agree, the meme seems to be that if you are against Flood you're against the program.The thing is, the fans didn't boo the team. They booed once, when Flood came on the screen.
This is what Flood supporters do. You booed Flood, so you must hate the players.
They can't win the argument, so they change the argument to one that they can win by inserting words in your mouth.
OMFG there is a really scary, TTFP like portion of this fanbase,
Flood was booed, FACT. Not the team, Flood. You had to be deaf not to hear it.
Flood broke the rules, FACT. He was told he was breaking them, put into writing he knew.
Just stop with the spin...who cares if they would have booed Barchi, FLOOD IS THE PROBLEM.
My god in my whole life I have never seen anyone anywhere else in any facet in life who is defended so vigorously to the point of the individual never having to own up to anything.
You know who wrote those emails- Flood. Not Barchi, Hermann, Schiano, Rossi, Cohen, whoever. Flood is the coach.
There is not a CEO in America who could get 7 employees arrested in 2 weeks and be subject to no scrutiny,
There is not a CEO in America who could rank last or dead last in so many categories and have everyone only blame the underlings.
To use a nice Brooklyn expression from my mom- Flood cooked his own goose. He set the lack of discipline and then bailed out someone who didn't deserve it in a moronic way.
He deserves worse than boos, and he's going to get it once he is terminated. It is coming, so get over it, and when it does, don't blame anyone but Flood.
OMFG there is a really scary, TTFP like portion of this fanbase,
Flood was booed, FACT. Not the team, Flood. You had to be deaf not to hear it.
Flood broke the rules, FACT. He was told he was breaking them, put into writing he knew.
Just stop with the spin...who cares if they would have booed Barchi, FLOOD IS THE PROBLEM.
My god in my whole life I have never seen anyone anywhere else in any facet in life who is defended so vigorously to the point of the individual never having to own up to anything.
You know who wrote those emails- Flood. Not Barchi, Hermann, Schiano, Rossi, Cohen, whoever. Flood is the coach.
There is not a CEO in America who could get 7 employees arrested in 2 weeks and be subject to no scrutiny,
There is not a CEO in America who could rank last or dead last in so many categories and have everyone only blame the underlings.
To use a nice Brooklyn expression from my mom- Flood cooked his own goose. He set the lack of discipline and then bailed out someone who didn't deserve it in a moronic way.
He deserves worse than boos, and he's going to get it once he is terminated. It is coming, so get over it, and when it does, don't blame anyone but Flood.
There was very noticeable booing during the Flood commercial in a stadium of 45,000+ people, and anyone claiming it was just a few people needs to get their hearing checked. Personally, despite the good cause I'm not interested in seeing the suspended head coach on the stadium's large scoreboard during this game. One could even argue that it was an unnecessary distraction to the team/acting head coach, not to mention technically contravening the university's own decision to allow Flood zero contact with the team on game days.
The thing is, the fans didn't boo the team. They booed once, when Flood came on the screen.
This is what Flood supporters do. You booed Flood, so you must hate the players.
They can't win the argument, so they change the argument to one that they can win by inserting words in your mouth.