Giants time management
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Beckham catches the ball it's irrelevant
You are much more entertaining when you calling for the banning of a poster
Dumb thread. He did it right. The unfortunate luck was the reversal which left 2:01 on the clock. That 1 second was actually very big for the Pats.
- reversal
- INT that comes out when he rolls as hitting ground
....and Brady/Grotkowski. That was painful, no doubt, but I guess they owed us one or two. Still sucks!
- INT that comes out when he rolls as hitting ground
....and Brady/Grotkowski. That was painful, no doubt, but I guess they owed us one or two. Still sucks!
40 seconds (?) between plays, pats only had one time out, four downs, do the math if handled differently, brady gets ball at the 20 with < 40 seconds and no time outs, its a whole different game....like I said bad time management again
Wrong. First down would have run to the 2 min warning. Second down run, Pats call TO. Third down run and the clock runs dowm to 1:20. Plenty of time for the HOF QB.
While watching that, I was wondering why they didn't try a run one time when inside the 10 and really run the clock down. Obviously you couldn't have run the clock out, but just one run would have made a difference.
It's infuriating how the Patriots always pull these games out. They must have used their Jedi mind trick again.
It's infuriating how the Patriots always pull these games out. They must have used their Jedi mind trick again.
you are forgetting the time that the actual plays take and the fact that on 4th down good time management would let the time run down to one second before penalty and the Giants call a time out before field goal....puts you around 40 seconds
The thing that is maddening is the reversal of the call. Beckham goes up, catches the ball, brings it into his body, and gets both feet down. As he is holding the ball out (as part of some stupid celebration move), it is batted out. How is that not a touchdown? The NFL rule book now talks about some beginning to run nonsense. A person who has just caught the ball in the end zone has no need to run. What if, for example, Beckham goes up and catches the ball and there is no one within three feet of him. He comes down with the ball with both feet and holds the ball in the air to celebrate the catch. Then a defender comes by and knocks it out. No catch? Beckham clearly had possession, and was turning and beginning to hold the ball out as he had a touchdown. The NFL has to get its act together. If Tate's catch was a TD, how can Beckham's not be?
Game was over if Collins doesn't drop the INT after hard fall.
On another note. - the stuff the NFL made coaches wear looked ridiculous - especially on Tom. I don't know what the camo and ribbons was about but I assume it was another phony salute/cause from the grubby merchandising bedroom of the NFL ho-house
On another note. - the stuff the NFL made coaches wear looked ridiculous - especially on Tom. I don't know what the camo and ribbons was about but I assume it was another phony salute/cause from the grubby merchandising bedroom of the NFL ho-house
agree about the two feet down, this rule has to change, I have no idea what else is needed, ??? football move
No
Wrong.....2:06 on first down....you run..down to 2:02...Pats call time out...run another play..down to 1:58....2 min warning....3rd down...run another play...1:54....run 39 seconds off clock.....down to 1:15....Field goal.....down to 1:12
Nice try spanky
obviously you are a pats fan, who didn't excel in math, my comment was to another comment that stopped at 1;20 without realizing the 39 seconds that could have been run off prior to field goal attempt, but even your slanted example proves its a different game, since the game winner was snapped with 6 seconds, your example has them at 1:12, rather than the 1:47 they received the ball with, a difference of 35 seconds, and they snapped the game winner at 6 seconds.....do the math genius
Been a Giants season ticket holder since 81 douche....
Again, Beckham catches the ball....Collins holds on the Int. you wouldn't be bright enough to post this
Have fun sharpening pencils at work tomorrow
rather than admit you can't count, you change the subject at hand and attempt an insult......try mathnasium, if you can even get in
csphi has this right. Allow 6 seconds for a run, which is liberal given where the ball is. First down takes it to the two minute warning. Then down to 1:54 on second down and time out. Then down to 1:48 on the third down run, and at 1:08 the Jints call time out. Kick takes 3 and you are at 1:05.
Jints basically gave them about 30-40 additional seconds and a TO by throwing the ball. But the TD (which basically they got) would have been big in what the Pats would then have to do (and hadn't been doing all that well all game long). Tough call, but not an obvious: "this is better than that" sort of deal.
Jints basically gave them about 30-40 additional seconds and a TO by throwing the ball. But the TD (which basically they got) would have been big in what the Pats would then have to do (and hadn't been doing all that well all game long). Tough call, but not an obvious: "this is better than that" sort of deal.
Timekeeper screwed the Giants.
The clock never started at the 2:10 mark.
Giants run for five yards on 1st down and the clock never moved.
Pats actually call a timeout. The Giant sideline the announcers and officials don't say a word
Me and ten other drunks at the bar are the only ones who see this?
I'm sure Balickhek and the Pats sure as hell realized the huge break they just .
Every play after would have been different.
2nd down completion to Harris at 2:05 left instead of the 2nd time at 2:10 brings the clock to the two minute warning.
With only one time out remaining for the Pats the Giants can run the plays,kick the field goal and leave the Pats with less than 30 seconds.
Thank- you NFL inept officisls
The clock never started at the 2:10 mark.
Giants run for five yards on 1st down and the clock never moved.
Pats actually call a timeout. The Giant sideline the announcers and officials don't say a word
Me and ten other drunks at the bar are the only ones who see this?
I'm sure Balickhek and the Pats sure as hell realized the huge break they just .
Every play after would have been different.
2nd down completion to Harris at 2:05 left instead of the 2nd time at 2:10 brings the clock to the two minute warning.
With only one time out remaining for the Pats the Giants can run the plays,kick the field goal and leave the Pats with less than 30 seconds.
Thank- you NFL inept officisls
I THOUGHT ONCE IN THE END ZONE PLANE THEIR ARE NO FUMBLES....2 FEET DOWN TD...BAD CALL AT HOME....WE AINT HEARD THE END OF THIS...
After the Giants crossed the 50, their time management wasn't good. But they still could have won if they just held onto the ball -- either Beckham or Collins. And, yes, the catch rule is stupid, but it's been in place for a while and Beckham should know it.
People dismissing the poor management on the end are forgetting that from first and goal at the five you can also score running it. In fact the pats might have let them like they did in the Super Bowl. So either the clock is running or you're scoring.
Eli checked to a pass....he's one dumb hayseed,
Eli checked to a pass....he's one dumb hayseed,
Agree. Didn't understand why the Giants didn't run the ball. IMO, should have run the ball three times. This would have forced NE to burn last TO and bled the clock down to less than a minute (assuming NE stopped them from scoring a TD)
ONCE AGAIN! The clock failed to move on 1st and 10 five yard run with 2:10 left in the game.
Consequently, it took the Giants FOUR plays to get to the two minute warning instead of two or MAYBE three plays.
1st and goal at the two minute warning, Pats with one time out, no brainer,fall on the ball three times and kick the fg.
It was already third down by the time it finally reached the two minute warning thanks to the timekeeper ineptitude
Consequently, it took the Giants FOUR plays to get to the two minute warning instead of two or MAYBE three plays.
1st and goal at the two minute warning, Pats with one time out, no brainer,fall on the ball three times and kick the fg.
It was already third down by the time it finally reached the two minute warning thanks to the timekeeper ineptitude
Not really I can remember two super bowls, they didn't, and another Perfect season
ruined by Eli and the Giants.
Before the first and goal, the Giants had the ball 2d and 5 around their 25 after having run on first down and forcing the Pats to call their 2d timeout. If they had run again, the Pats would have burned their last time out. If they make the first down, the game is essentially over, as the Giants could have run the clock down for a chippee with their "hasn't missed all year" kicker. If they don't make it, they can still try on third down and, if not, kick the almost-certain FG and kick-off to the Pats with about the same time on the clock as they ultimately had after they kicked off yesterday. The upside is great and the chance of getting it good. The downside is what you got anyway yesterday.
Instead, on 2d and 5, the Giants threw to Harris on the sideline who caught it and then had his momentum carry him out of bounds. Great to be 1st and goal, not good at all with Brady on the sidelines. Suddenly, the Pats still had the two minute warning and a timeout. From that point forward, the Giants were almost certain to throw and risk stopping the clock again because they had placed themselves in a situation in which they couldn't run the clock down enough on Brady. So they needed a TD. We saw how that played out.
In short, the win-killer was the pass to Harris inside the 10 in which he ran out of bounds. Bad play call, and Harris should have nonetheless found a way to fall down in bounds. The Giants simply need to work on their time management. They didn't need a TD. They needed to try to empty the clock, then a FG. That's how you win those games. You try to be on offense last.
Instead, on 2d and 5, the Giants threw to Harris on the sideline who caught it and then had his momentum carry him out of bounds. Great to be 1st and goal, not good at all with Brady on the sidelines. Suddenly, the Pats still had the two minute warning and a timeout. From that point forward, the Giants were almost certain to throw and risk stopping the clock again because they had placed themselves in a situation in which they couldn't run the clock down enough on Brady. So they needed a TD. We saw how that played out.
In short, the win-killer was the pass to Harris inside the 10 in which he ran out of bounds. Bad play call, and Harris should have nonetheless found a way to fall down in bounds. The Giants simply need to work on their time management. They didn't need a TD. They needed to try to empty the clock, then a FG. That's how you win those games. You try to be on offense last.
It is not a dumb post. I agree . Time management and logic was bad. Even if Giants get that touchdown that was knocked away, there was still WAY too much time in the clock! - it's Brady! a Giants touchdown and (50/50 chance at ) 2 point conversion would only put them up by 7 anyway.. No the only sure way to win would have been to drain as much time off the clock- with 2 minute warning and timeout for New England they could still have gotten it down to about 39 seconds - taking a delay of game on the field goal or winding play clock down to 1..
They did not need to have success, they were already in short field goal range.
No they couldn't
NE had 1 time out plus the 2 minute warning with 2:06 left with the ball on the 5
That makes no sense
That's right. They hit a 54 yarder earlier, and we're looking at a chip shot, so they even could have taken a delay of game on fourth down. And some creative run play calling could have even gotten the clock close to zero...
WTF are you talking about
Even if you run the ball 3 times NE gets the ball back with 1:20 left
The game clock was reset to 2:14 after NE took its first time out. The refs announced it but I don't think CBS ever adjusted their clock:
- 3rd and 3 at NYG 42
(2:34 - 4th) (No Huddle, Shotgun) E.Manning pass deep left to D.Harris to NE 28 for 30 yards (D.Harmon, R.Melvin)
- (2:14 - 4th) Timeout #1 by NE at 02:14.
- 1st and 10 at NE 28
(2:14 - 4th) R.Jennings left tackle to NE 23 for 5 yards (M.Brown, D.Hightower)
- (2:10 - 4th) Timeout #2 by NE at 02:10.
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