Giving the haters hope
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Didn't the media have Al Golden signed, sealed and delivered for football job? Why do people believe they have accurate info with the bball search?
I can understand why anyone would ask for 7 years from Rutgers considering our history. But asking and demanding are different. You can't give a coach 7 years unless they have an enormous resume that warrants it. Unless you're landing a big fish and need to blow them away with money and years. None of our candidates fit that category. And if you're hiring someone because they have great NJ connections and they're a great recruiter why would would they need 7 years?
history has proven that at Rutgers its harder to turn around hoops than fooball.
here is the issue that some continue to overlook. RU HAS NOT SUPPORTED BASKETBALL FOR 25 YEARS...THEY HAVE NOT KEPT UP WITH THE JONES. THEY HAVE NOT SPENT MONEY ON THE PROGRAM NOR INVESTED. THEY HAVE DONE NOTHING BUT ACT ON THE CHEAP AND ALLOW THE PROGRAM TO DIE ON THE VINE
so when perspective coaches see this and all the AAU and high school coaches are saying that RU could give a crap about hoops and its all football, they need some major assurances from the school that the leopard is going to change its spots. RU isnt a norrmal school. Normal schools invest in college basketball. RU pissed on it for years and thats why we are what we are now, the least attractive program in the country and less attractive that many mid majors
Hobbs is all in on Hurley. Convincing Hurley is the challenge. That’s why Politi is doing PR for Hobbs on this – his latest column today was basically to increase the pressure on Hurley to take the job, which is a dead lift of Hobbs' pitch to Hurley and his agent. Someone is clearly whispering in his ear.
Funniest thing I ever read. Since I watched the Duke Lacrosse 30:30 last night I understand how people can take information and twist it any way they want. I just didn't know it was this prevalent.
How about the other Seton Hall coach. You know, the one who has today's (not 1989's) team in the NCAA tournament...
Willard has no reason to come here and deal with this mess and he isnt the right guy as well
I want someone who sees opportunities and not past problems. I want someone who doesn't ask for guarantees but who makes guarantees about how hard he is going to work and what he is going to do for his $1.5 million a year.
I completely understand it.
The reality is Rutgers has been a coaching graveyard for three decades. Bill Foster was the last Rutgers HC to have landed a "decent" HC job after coaching at Rutgers. I don't think the options are as vast as many of our fans believe. Would you rather a 7 year deal for Hurley or a 5 year deal for Steve Pikiel?
We have just shown that after an enormous scandal we will cut an HC loose on a 5 year deal after 3 years. If I am an HC with any reputation and future (Lonergan, Hurley...that level HC) I have to be thinking there is a better than 0% chance that this is my last HC job ever.
who is saying Hurley wouldnt work hard, if he doesnt his career is in the shitter just like all the previous head coaches
this school has done zero to help basketball, it needs to show any candidate here that it is different now. You are sticking your head in the sand if you dont think our past problems and history of no support isnt a MAJOR issue
this school has done zero to help basketball, it needs to show any candidate here that it is different now. You are sticking your head in the sand if you dont think our past problems and history of no support isnt a MAJOR issue
i am definitely not a lawyer...if Hurley gets 7 years there has to be some language where we aren't on the hook for 7 years if Hurley fails to conduct himself properly on or off the court.
Just for frame of reference, it was year number four that Mark Turgeon got Maryland into the NCAA Tournament.
If it took three seasons for a guy who was Big 12 COY and got TAMU to the sweet sixteen regularly to get a program with Maryland's history back to the NCAA tournament, how long do you realistically think it will take the new Rutgers coach?
Seven year deal doesn't seem unreasonable to me. Doesn't have to be seven guaranteed years. If someone asks for that I would pass.
If it took three seasons for a guy who was Big 12 COY and got TAMU to the sweet sixteen regularly to get a program with Maryland's history back to the NCAA tournament, how long do you realistically think it will take the new Rutgers coach?
Seven year deal doesn't seem unreasonable to me. Doesn't have to be seven guaranteed years. If someone asks for that I would pass.
It is much harder to turn a basketball team around.
Nonetheless, a 7 year contract is absurd. You can tell in 3 or 4 years if you are moving in the right direction.
Wenzel coached RU in the A10. Rutgers now plays in the best BB conference in the country so it will take a lot longer to turn this around. 1 year lol
Seven years is a joke. The next coach does not need to break the streak in four years to know if he has us on the right path or not. If we are an NIT team by then with good recruiting progress, you extend him. If not, cut ties and try, try again. Any coach trying to demand seven years is one I would tell to take a hike.
We played in the best conference for hoops for years. The point is is that football is much more difficult and seven years, almost two full classes, for hoops is frankly ridiculous.
What I don't get is if one of Hurleys best perceived strengths is recruiting why would we give him 7 years. I would think a great recruiter would get things done quicker.
because this school has no facilities and hasnt invested in it for 25 years and not supported it in any way shape or form, excuse the skepticism from Hurley or any other worthy candidate
And I think Rutgers fans would accept a similar progression he had at Rhode Island. Hurley lost a four-star guard Matthews and won 17 games. His team next year is A10 favorite or close to it.
huh? Your post was Wenzel turned the program around in 1 year. And the Big Ten is a much better conference than the old big east.
1. Who are these "haters" and for what do they "hope?"
2. The "NJ Press" some of you are bashing is basically one guy at Gannett, a couple at the Ledger and some bloggers. Hobbs won't give them much to go on, they have to write something -- it's their job, and they are told to write something -- and what you get is often worthless. Hardly a shock.
3. All the "requirements" I'm seeing on here for the next coach are not on Ash's resume, and most of us are pretty pumped about him.
4. Seven years is a non-starter. (Technically, Schiano needed the full five years, as we were under .500 in year four and there were rumblings. Don't deny it; there were rumblings about him. Then Year 5 broke the drought, Year 6 was historic and we went from foolishly thinking it never would get better to foolishly thinking it always would be that good. Regardless, seven years is a non-starter, no matter who it is who wants the job.
5. Sitting out here in Las Vegas, where a much higher-profile program is looking for a coach, it will be very interesting to watch how the two schools conduct their searches.
2. The "NJ Press" some of you are bashing is basically one guy at Gannett, a couple at the Ledger and some bloggers. Hobbs won't give them much to go on, they have to write something -- it's their job, and they are told to write something -- and what you get is often worthless. Hardly a shock.
3. All the "requirements" I'm seeing on here for the next coach are not on Ash's resume, and most of us are pretty pumped about him.
4. Seven years is a non-starter. (Technically, Schiano needed the full five years, as we were under .500 in year four and there were rumblings. Don't deny it; there were rumblings about him. Then Year 5 broke the drought, Year 6 was historic and we went from foolishly thinking it never would get better to foolishly thinking it always would be that good. Regardless, seven years is a non-starter, no matter who it is who wants the job.
5. Sitting out here in Las Vegas, where a much higher-profile program is looking for a coach, it will be very interesting to watch how the two schools conduct their searches.
100% correct. Rutgers has been a graveyard for so many bball coaches. Hurley, Lonergan and any other up incoming coaches are thinking long and hard about that. Plus every news outlet and insider is telling them that over and over. Rutgers may need to build the program before someone will take a leap of faith that the program can change. If we can't get Hurley here, we are most likely headed down the cheap route again and look for a MAAC level coach.
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