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That was because of the OOC losses. Otherwise they would have been a higher seed.
Lol 18-14 and everything is handwringing
Has nothing to do with whether we end up getting selected
Iowa was 40 seconds away from a home loss to MSU, giving up an alarming number of 3s to Sparty. The OT win while impressive on the surface and SportsCenter, is not a metric win.
Iowa also goes to Indiana and hosts Nebraska. I would say 1-1 & if not for the miracle Saturday, was probably looking at 3 straight double figure losses....20 point loss at NW....12 point loss at Wisconsin.....down 9 with 39 seconds to Sparty.....if Sparty plays defense, they win by 9 to 11 points.
Iowa would be staring down the barrel of a 4th straight loss going to Bloomington and they're suddenly a lock?? It's not impossible that Nebraska pushes Sparty tonight and can score 75 to 80 points at Iowa. If RU wins 2 and Iowa wins 1 in the B1G regular season, RU should be seeded higher than Iowa, end of discussion.
And the arguments keep moving like whack a mole....3 years ago, dominating at the RAC wasn't good enough for RU.....Maryland does the same thing with one neutral win vs Miami, no issues.....
Two years it wasnt enough road wins, they sealed that up.
Last year it was the OOC and Lafayette, which impacted the NET and never was a factor....RU danced without an issue.
Now it was even RU had to win at PSU (which was NEVER true), then they win and its still never enough.
RU is in the NCAAs....said it 4 years ago irregardless of the Purdue road win.....3 years ago before the Minnesota win....2 years ago it was this game/that game.....now last year it was the OOC and Lafayette....
Now we have the road wins piled up, Q1s piled up and there's a mention of Q3, not Q4.....
Minnesota is a Q3 game, if RU loses to Minnesota. Can we please stop.....??
Iowa won so alot of words for nothing
They are a stone cold lock
Ru was one of the last teams in last year so cut the bravado that it was guaranteed
By the way i had them in too
At 18-14 there are scenarios where they dont make it..if you dont want to believe its your problem
They are a stone cold lock
Ru was one of the last teams in last year so cut the bravado that it was guaranteed
By the way i had them in too
At 18-14 there are scenarios where they dont make it..if you dont want to believe its your problem
Lol if ru lost out and finished 17-15 they weren't making it..
Its comical you are saying they didnt have to beat penn state
Its comical you are saying they didnt have to beat penn state
Stop it. Wa wa wa wa. We got screwed, move on. We lost the game. End of story.
Do I need to post Rutgers OOC schedule?
Letting us with that schedule at 18-14 is telling ADs around the country it is OK to not schedule better.
Letting us with that schedule at 18-14 is telling ADs around the country it is OK to not schedule better.
Agree..if peeps think the committee cares they dont
There are a hundred sad stories in games a year
If you let Rutgers in at 18-14 with our OOC you better not send a 16-16 B12 team with a good OOC to the NIT
Because some want to be macho and make declarations
Im here to do bracketology objectively not to do PR for Rutgers
People who say a 18-14 Ru with 4 Q3 losses and a net of 50 are absolutely not at risk they dont know a thing about all this
And i think RU has at least a 70% chance of getting in at 18-14
Murray is not a national First team All American this year. He is not Keegan and he has had a # of so so games and has been in a prolonged shooting slump ( except when he plays RU). First team All Americans are Zach Edey , Trace Jackson Davis , Sasser from Houston , Miller from Alabama and Tebelis from Arizona. Almost positive he will not be 2nd team either with Jaquez at UCLA , Wilson from Kansas , Drew Timme from Gonzaga ; Pickett from Penn State plus one of the Texas or Baylor guards. Maybe third team. But I do not see him as talented and as versatile as Keegan . He clearly is very good and has killed us . But not so sure from looking at the box score as to his absence being the reason they lost to Eastern Illinois that day.
I dont think his injury will be taken into consideration
Injuries consideration are not as big as people think
Losing to Missouri by 22 on a neutral floor is a bad loss LOL. Yes the Committee will love the UCLA and Texas wins , which frankly is the only thing holding up their resume right now since they clearly have not beaten the top of the BIG 10 yet. If they beat Michigan and Purdue then you slide them ahead of RU. Not now. Equal seeding. Rutgers was their best win at the time NET ( our Net was 20 ) . Ohio State’s loss by 12 regardless of where the NET says there are but the reality of losing 9 straight games and looking pathetic was like 2 Quad 3 losses. They were also dominated and Ohio State led wire to wire.
If they lose to Michigan at home and at Purdue and we win both our remaining games , you better believe we should be the higher seeded team.
Hope you do not think I am ganging up on you. I have too much respect for what you do. I just sometimes disagree with you giving the benefit of the doubt to everybody else and hammering Rutgers more than they deserve objectively. I hope you and I are at a point that we can see things different ways but respect the other opinion and then talk about it on this message board because I do not know you personally but only through these boards.
A bad loss is losing by double digits to Nebraska at home
Illinois does not have 3 Q3 losses and non conference sos of 312
Ok. Some good agreement here. Lol. But glad we do not end with Purdue and NW . Lol.
Oh no..like the banter with you..you know your stuff..we just come at it from different angles. We arent far off. The seedings are close right now
Its some of the others declaring ru a stone cold lock at 18-14
Ok and we were dinged a seed line by some and 2-3 seed lines by other bracketologists (Palm) so we slide from 5-6 where we were to 7-8 seed line. Non conference SOS means nothing as we played only 7 Quad 4 games and won by an average of 30 + plus points so it is as if those games do not even count. Then you look at a non conference of Temple , Miami , Seton Hall and Wake Forest , which is comparable to most other teams.
I am happy to hear that and totally agree that 18-14 Rutgers will lead to some serious sweating on Selection Sunday and I cannot say I will have a smile on my face at the end of the day. Let’s get this Minnesota road win out of the way , so we can discuss whether we will be a 6( unlikely , a 7 ( more than likely ) ,an 8 ( more than likely ) or a 9 ( unlikely ).
If you think RU has a 70% chance even if losing all three, then you agree with me.
Exactly right . Give me the Michigan and Seton Hall wins where the atrocious basketball was played or 1 of those and the Ohio State screw job , I would be right there with you. Can live with the Temple ( without Paul and Caleb ) and Nebraska losses ( they got red hot and we let them ).
You telling me to stop crying and here you're doing that crying about their OOC schedule. Pot meet kettle. Just STFU as well then dude or appreciate other people can have different opinions of what the committee will evaluate on this year's resume.
It was brutal for sure as Paul got stopped and became a liability not shooting and Cliff got handled by Ignufu ( spelling ) real well, and everybody panicked missing layups.
But Michigan irks me more because I hate that team more than Seton Hall for how they have destroyed us in big moments in our history (Final Four ,NIT final and their obnoxious fans ) and they really didn’t play all that great and we let them off the hook after our 13-3 start. If anyone had a pulse that night we beat them.
Explain why some teams are given the benefit of the doubt when they have injuries to key players, but that isn't the case with Rutgers. It seems the narrative changes every year to fit the agenda. I've heard that from several talking heads on TV.
its not going to work with RU because RU has no Mag and he isnt coming back so using injuries may actually do the opposite. Analysts overstate the injury factor, it could effect a seedline, it does not determine selection
So favored 5-7 over Minn. even home vs NW. we lost two, we will be much lower seed in B1G tourney, playing bad team, I’ll make that even odds. Lose all three, less than 10% betting odds. Now a 30% chance from there. Yes we’re above 95%
Maybe I’m off a bit on this spreads but, chances are extremely low.
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