GW's Lonergan: We Dodged a Bullet

[Ole Cabbagehead]

No you'd be a pedantic douche with wheels.

Wow. Way to come over the top. And misuse the word pedantic.... so, there's that. Which is ironic to point out now, I suppose.

I was just making a stupid south park joke. That said, your post was ridiculous...with the 'if this unsubstantiated thing happened it would be bad, or if this other unsubstantiated thing happened it would be worse.' Why not just assume that everyone did their job, because they considered him and didn't hire him.

Its all nonsense. No one knows what anyone at the school knew or did.

 

[MADHAT1]

He took his name out consideration four days after being interviewed by Hobbs and was considered the leading candidate for the job at the time.
I would guess Hobbs found out some of the allegations being put and told him that RU would check further. After considering his options Lonergan decided to stay where he was or was advised that RU probably would be looking elsewhere because of some of the things they heard.
I don't know why Lonergan withdrew his name and only guessing.

 

[willisneverrana43]

. . . I would guess Hobbs found out some of the allegations being put and told him that RU would check further. After considering his options Lonergan decided to stay where he was or was advised that RU probably would be looking elsewhere because of some of the things they heard. . . . .

That's some guess. My guess is something closer to this thread's title.

 

[RU_DIO]

. . . I would guess Hobbs found out some of the allegations being put and told him that RU would check further. After considering his options Lonergan decided to stay where he was or was advised that RU probably would be looking elsewhere because of some of the things they heard. . . . .

That's some guess. My guess is something closer to this thread's title.

That's some guess. My guess is something closer to this thread's title.

When was Lonergan considered the leading candidate for the job?

 

[MADHAT1]

. . . I would guess Hobbs found out some of the allegations being put and told him that RU would check further. After considering his options Lonergan decided to stay where he was or was advised that RU probably would be looking elsewhere because of some of the things they heard. . . . .

That's some guess. My guess is something closer to this thread's title.




When was Lonergan considered the leading candidate for the job?

Lonergan was thought to be a leading candidate for the position after Hurley decided not to pursue the RU HC position according to an article I read

 

[RU_DIO]

Lonergan was thought to be a leading candidate for the position after Hurley decided not to pursue the RU HC position according to an article I read

Thanks!

 

[TODDB33]

Matt Cimino transferred to American after playing three games for 12 minutes total as a Soph.
Anthony Swan averaged three minutes and under 1 ppg as a Soph.
Darian Bryant transferred to Delaware, the school he was down to with GW after HS. Played 5 minutes per as a Freshman.
Paul Jurgenson transferred to Butler.

Cimino and Swan actually had solid offers out of HS and just didn't seem to pan out and transferred a level down. Bryant was a reach from the start. Jurgenson was also a reach, but actually turned out to be the 2nd best recruit in the class behind Watanabe who has stayed.

Not saying tho isnt significant but from those facts did they transfer because of Lonergan or because they didn't/couldnt play at GWs level?

Look I know and like Lonergan. I am going to defend the guy. But I don't like the article and think you could do a hatchet job like that, with anonymous sources, on a whole bunch of D-1 CBB HCs.

Hoops I don't see how you can classify multiple players who are basically saying the same thing about JL as anonymous. Anonymous to me is someone outside the program who heard from someone's sister and brothers uncle that JL was abusive. The way your reading into this situation is akin to you claiming a kid in grade school reports abuse but doesn't want his name out is an anonymous tipster and report is a hatchet job.

 

[RUtix4me]

I like the way most posts on this thread start with I would guess.

I would guess that everyone here is guessing and no one really knows the facts. Bottom line he was wan't hired move on, nothing to see here.

 

[S.W.A.I.N]

Wow. Way to come over the top. And misuse the word pedantic.... so, there's that. Which is ironic to point out now, I suppose.

I was just making a stupid south park joke. That said, your post was ridiculous...with the 'if this unsubstantiated thing happened it would be bad, or if this other unsubstantiated thing happened it would be worse.' Why not just assume that everyone did their job, because they considered him and didn't hire him.

Its all nonsense. No one knows what anyone at the school knew or did.

My post was in response to Upstream saying he didn't understand the OP, so I was trying to break down the potential conflicts. NOT saying that I think they occurred. I was trying to be helpful, you just made a smart ass remark. And if "douche" is way over the top, I'm surprised you're a South Park fan. Bc you are either a giant douche, or a turd sandwich.

My bad on pedantic, but I don't think you correcting that is actually ironic, so there's that...

 

[RutgHoops]

Hoops I don't see how you can classify multiple players who are basically saying the same thing about JL as anonymous. Anonymous to me is someone outside the program who heard from someone's sister and brothers uncle that JL was abusive. The way your reading into this situation is akin to you claiming a kid in grade school reports abuse but doesn't want his name out is an anonymous tipster and report is a hatchet job.

Let me know the name of one player quoted. Use the WaPo article or elsewhere as a source. It's anonymous. Not saying its not true. Just pointing that out.

 

[TODDB33]

Let me know the name of one player quoted. Use the WaPo article or elsewhere as a source. It's anonymous. Not saying its not true. Just pointing that out.

Your right in that the source -though not mentioned - to the readers is anonymous. He isn't anonymous to the person he spoke with. When I read your response it appeared to me that you were implying that because everything being said was anonymous this was a hatchet job to get JL. If that wasn't your intent than apologies to you

 

[RutgHoops]

Your right in that the source -though not mentioned - to the readers is anonymous. He isn't anonymous to the person he spoke with. When I read your response it appeared to me that you were implying that because everything being said was anonymous this was a hatchet job to get JL. If that wasn't your intent than apologies to you

Was not my intent and I am not arguing the article or claim(s) isn't true. But, without a name how can you really know how much is true and how much may be a guy upset with an HC "who didn't treat him fairly (code for didn't play him enough)".

My overall point is if you as a former player feel this way and want to shine a light on the situation then put your name on it. To me, it lends credence to the claims. It is so much easier to make these claims anonymously. And it shouldn't be "easy" to put something like this out there.

I wouldn't want someone to be able to make claims like this about Coach Ash or Pikeill or Stringer or Goodale without going on the record. I think that is a bare minimum standard to put something like this out in public.

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

Let's be honest here. Going on record in most cases does the person no good. Will society think better or worse for someone who speaks up? Would a potential employer 5 years from now be more apt to hire this person? probably not

 

[RU Husky]

Jay Bilas likes Lonergan, so there's that. Bob Ley does too.