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Halftime Show Review

Coldplay should have just played the whole time. They are a global brand and have been for 10 years. Certainly have the chops to play the half time show alone.

Mars was not what he was two years ago. He got caught up in Beyoncé's militant Black Lives Matter wake that is just a horrible look for her. She needs new handlers.


its not really a bad look her for him or her because that's their audience

the media promotes the urban hip hop thing in advertising and music and in entertainment, that's just how it is. Social media eats it up because that's the same demo. A country artist or Metallica would be considered boring or not fun and doesn't promote the positive groupthink utopia society that they want to pretend everyone is a part of

Artists like Prince, Michael Jackson, James Brown, Stevie Wonder, Whitney Houston and Diana Ross were acts that transcending black or white and were universally liked. There wasn't politics or agenda pushing.
 
Whether you're conservative or liberal, it was blatantly obvious that there was a desperate reach for the gay community (Coldplay's rainbows and love everywhere) as well as the black community. I won't get into the level of disgust that I have for the messages themselves, but I will say that the Super Bowl really should not be the forum for voicing your political views. I don't want to hear or see how you feel about political topics at hand. Play your songs and leave.

It was absolutely sickening to watch and I'll leave it at that.

Yeah, because sport and entertainment events have never, ever, been a stage for social commentary before, lol! Also, the whole "love" or "believe in love" thing has been huge, internationally, at both major sport and entertainment events, alike, the past few years. Like it, hate it, but it's a fact.
 
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How about Phil Collins? I've been a big Genesis fan ever since the release of their 1980 album, Duke. Before that, I really didn't understand any of their work. Too artsy, too intellectual. It was on Duke where Phil Collins' presence became more apparent. I think Invisible Touch was the group's undisputed masterpiece. It's an epic meditation on intangibility. At the same time, it deepens and enriches the meaning of the preceding three albums. You can practically hear every nuance of every instrument.

In terms of lyrical craftsmanship, the sheer songwriting, this album hits a new peak of professionalism. Take the lyrics to Land of Confusion. In this song, Phil Collins addresses the problems of abusive political authority. In Too Deep is the most moving pop song of the 1980s, about monogamy and commitment. The song is extremely uplifting. Their lyrics are as positive and affirmative as anything I've heard in rock.

Phil Collins' solo career seems to be more commercial and therefore more satisfying, in a narrower way. Especially songs like In the Air Tonight and Against All Odds. But I also think Phil Collins works best within the confines of the group, than as a solo artist, and I stress the word artist. Sussudio, a great, great song, a personal favorite.
 
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Phil Collins? His last work was eight years ago and that was for a Disney movie. The songs you named are a quarter of a century old. Nobody under the age of 20 has ever heard of him.
 
It was bad. Even Phil Collins, if he is still alive, could have done a better job.
 
Whether you're conservative or liberal, it was blatantly obvious that there was a desperate reach for the gay community (Coldplay's rainbows and love everywhere) as well as the black community. I won't get into the level of disgust that I have for the messages themselves, but I will say that the Super Bowl really should not be the forum for voicing your political views. I don't want to hear or see how you feel about political topics at hand. Play your songs and leave.

It was absolutely sickening to watch and I'll leave it at that.

Yes, sickening! Certain groups should never be made to feel welcome. Now let's get back to the innocent fun of watching guys give each other permanent brain damage for the amusement of the audience.
 
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It was bad. Even Phil Collins, if he is still alive, could have done a better job.

I believe he just started touring again,or maybe is in the studio again, at this time.
 
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How about Phil Collins? I've been a big Genesis fan ever since the release of their 1980 album, Duke. Before that, I really didn't understand any of their work. Too artsy, too intellectual. It was on Duke where Phil Collins' presence became more apparent. I think Invisible Touch was the group's undisputed masterpiece. It's an epic meditation on intangibility. At the same time, it deepens and enriches the meaning of the preceding three albums. You can practically hear every nuance of every instrument.

In terms of lyrical craftsmanship, the sheer songwriting, this album hits a new peak of professionalism. Take the lyrics to Land of Confusion. In this song, Phil Collins addresses the problems of abusive political authority. In Too Deep is the most moving pop song of the 1980s, about monogamy and commitment. The song is extremely uplifting. Their lyrics are as positive and affirmative as anything I've heard in rock.

Phil Collins' solo career seems to be more commercial and therefore more satisfying, in a narrower way. Especially songs like In the Air Tonight and Against All Odds. But I also think Phil Collins works best within the confines of the group, than as a solo artist, and I stress the word artist. Sussudio, a great, great song, a personal favorite.

Yes. If anything can unite football fans across America, it's Phil mf-in Collins!
 
Yes. If anything can unite football fans across America, it's Phil mf-in Collins!

How about Huey Lewis and The News instead? Their early work was a little too new wave for my tastes, but when Sports came out in '83, I think they really came into their own, commercially and artistically. The whole album has a clear, crisp sound, and a new sheen of consummate professionalism that really gives the songs a big boost. He's been compared to Elvis Costello, but I think Huey has a far more bitter, cynical sense of humor.

In '87, Huey released Fore, their most accomplished album. I think their undisputed masterpiece is "Hip to be Square", a song so catchy, most people probably don't listen to the lyrics. But they should, because it's not just about the pleasures of conformity, and the importance of trends, it's also a personal statement about the band itself.
 
Rocks You thought Huey Lewis' early stuff was too new wave ? Me thinks we have very different interpretations of that genre..
 
first of all I was 26 in 1996 so I wasn't exactly Ms Ross demo either. You can diss the megastars all you want but everyone I mentioned are megastarts that had DECADES of success..that's my whole point...there aren't any superstars left with DECADES of success. Not many acts of the 90s made it to the 2010s make an impact so that's what hurts..ditto for the 2000s Beyoncé is a superstar yes but she recently did a super bowl. Coldplay and Bruno Mars aren't superstars and I bet you most people under the age of 18 don't even know who Coldplay is

Instead of trying to diss me as an old person which is the typical reaction when someone criticizes something..why not tell me why the show was so great last night. Was it the vocal sound of Coldplay? Was it Beyoncé's outfit? Her ass? Her thighs? Her black power salute?

I used Diana Ross as an example but I could use Prince, Michael Jackson, U2 or Bruce as examples too..but I guess since the acts are old I am just being an old man. Lets put Adele up their next time to sing some generic sappy song like Hello...Yay that's a youth movement right there

So there was just one song sung in the 1996 halftime show that was released after you were out of diapers.

Don't know why there needs to be decades of success, either. It wasn't until 1991 that the Superbowl really started to ditch the "marching bands plus assorted entertainers" and start to be more concerts in earnest.
- From 1991-1994, the acts were fairly current (New Kids on the Block, Gloria Estefan, Michael Jackson (solo career 14 years old at that point), Clint Black, Travis Tritt)
- From 1995-1997, they went to older acts that had been around for 20-40 years (Tony Bennett, Patti Labelle, Diana Ross, Blues Brothers, ZZ Top, James Brown).
- From 1998-2004 they went with a mix of young and old in the same performance (Boyz II Men/Smokey Robinson/Queen Latifah, Gloria Estefan/Stevie Wonder/KISS, Phil Collins/Christina Aguilera/Enrique Iglesias, Aerosmith/NSYNC/Britney Spears, etc)
- From 2005-2010 they went with much older acts that had been around 30+ years (McCartney, Stones, Prince, Tom Petty, Springsteen, The Who)
- From 2011-present they've mostly been more recent acts (Black Eyed Peas, Nikki Minaj, Beyonce, Bruno Mars, Katy Perry, Missy Elliott, Coldplay) with a few "older" standouts here and there (Madonna, Chili Peppers, Lenny Kravitz, Missy Elliott)

Personally, I kinda like the 98-04 era... with new current acts mixed in with some older acts.

As for what I liked about this show - I like Uptown Funk and Bruno Mars, and I thought they did a great job live with the choreography and singing. I like Coldplay, but the Ruled the World opener felt a bit flat for me. I liked Beyonce debuting new music rather than going back into the catalogue, and the choreography - leading into the "dance off" feel with the Bruno Mars group toward the end. I liked the video retrospective. Coldplay really felt like the weak link, and largely because the rest band didn't seem to be bringing the same energy as Chris Martin... and his songs were generally more mellow/slower than what Beyonce/Bruno Mars were bringing, so he had a harder time matching their vibe.
 
To each his own. looks like a sloppy rhino @ss to me. She either needs a new act or start starving herself.

LOL dude you're probably the typical straight guy who looks like a slob but thinks he can pick apart any woman for the slightest flaw.
 
How about Huey Lewis and The News instead? Their early work was a little too new wave for my tastes, but when Sports came out in '83, I think they really came into their own, commercially and artistically. The whole album has a clear, crisp sound, and a new sheen of consummate professionalism that really gives the songs a big boost. He's been compared to Elvis Costello, but I think Huey has a far more bitter, cynical sense of humor.

In '87, Huey released Fore, their most accomplished album. I think their undisputed masterpiece is "Hip to be Square", a song so catchy, most people probably don't listen to the lyrics. But they should, because it's not just about the pleasures of conformity, and the importance of trends, it's also a personal statement about the band itself.

I'd dig Huey Lewis and the News, but I think they'd suffer from the same young viewer disconnect as 4Real mentioned for Phil Collins. And I don't really think they even have much cachet with older viewers - a musical no man's land.

Looking at RUChoppin's breakdown, I have to ask: Why has Neil Diamond never done Super Bowl half and how do we remedy that? I see he did the anthem once, but not half. High energy, catchy songs known and loved by young and old, a packed stadium drunk-singing Sweet Caroline - they really should have gone Diamond for gold.
 
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LOL dude you're probably the typical straight guy who looks like a slob but thinks he can pick apart any woman for the slightest flaw.

No, he's the "typical straight guy" who CAN get any woman, trust me, I saw it in college and have met his wife. That being said, sorry, but Beyonce's legs qualify her for LB/FB status!
 
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Yes, sickening! Certain groups should never be made to feel welcome. Now let's get back to the innocent fun of watching guys give each other permanent brain damage for the amusement of the audience.
So without the rainbows homosexuals wouldn't feel welcome? Are you sitting at home holding hands with your partner thinking "man I just won't feel like I should be watching this unless a rainbow pops up?"
 
Metallica would be a great act but they need to appeal to women and gays who basically control social media so it will never happen. I think Clapton is too old and retired now. Muse just isn't big enough in the US.

Guns N Roses would be alright but I mean their buzz factor is pretty low with the public with how f'd up Axl Rose is.

They probably end up going with Adam Levine and Maroon 5, Lady Ga Ga and Rhianna in the coming years
However, I could see a band like Metallica working with a Lady Gaga. That could actually have broad appeal and marry genres. I'm not a Gaga fan but you can't deny her talent after the national anthem. Imagine her walking out on stage in the middle of a guitar solo and killing some classic Metallica tune.
 
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So without the rainbows homosexuals wouldn't feel welcome? Are you sitting at home holding hands with your partner thinking "man I just won't feel like I should be watching this unless a rainbow pops up?"

Or maybe he was just responding to that other guy who was "so offended" by an innocuous rainbow. Actually, that's exactly what happened.
 
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Or maybe he was just responding to that other guy who was "so offended" by an innocuous rainbow. Actually, that's exactly what happened.
It's not innocuous it's placed there for a reason. An attempt to spread a political message to 200 million people. You make it sound like it was an accident.
 
It's not innocuous it's placed there for a reason. An attempt to spread a political message to 200 million people. You make it sound like it was an accident.

Was it harmful to anyone? If the answer is "no", and it is, then it was in fact innocuous.

I'll bet two groups of people noticed: gays and angry social conservatives looking for something to complain about. The message was meant for the former and presented no harm whatsoever to the latter. Everyone else didn't notice or didn't care.
 
It's not innocuous it's placed there for a reason. An attempt to spread a political message to 200 million people. You make it sound like it was an accident.

Oh no! Did your eyes bleed from seeing it??? Did you cry yourself to sleep that night over the horror???
 
Oh no! Did your eyes bleed from seeing it??? Did you cry yourself to sleep that night over the horror???
Not at all. Just remember not to cry foul when someone else does something that doesn't align with your views. That's the real issue for me, I don't care what social message cold play or Beyoncé want to project during their performance. However, when someone with differing views does something Twitter goes crazy and demands he be fired and reprimanded. You guys can't want freedom of expression and free speech simply when it fits your narrative.
 
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Not at all. Just remember not to cry foul when someone else does something that doesn't align with your views. That's the real issue for me, I don't care what social message cold play or Beyoncé want to project during their performance. However, when someone with differing views does something Twitter goes crazy and demands he be fired and reprimanded. You guys can't want freedom of expression and free speech simply when it fits your narrative.

Not sure why it is folks have trouble with this one: The problem occurs when your views are something akin to "I dislike an entire group of people" and you put it in writing and everything. That's different from a message of "we're being purposefully inclusive of people who have traditionally been marginalized."

Also, none of that has anything to do with "freedom of speech." Did the government arrest those Twitter folks? Did they banish them to a remote Pacific island? Free speech or not, words still have consequences.
 
However, I could see a band like Metallica working with a Lady Gaga. That could actually have broad appeal and marry genres. I'm not a Gaga fan but you can't deny her talent after the national anthem. Imagine her walking out on stage in the middle of a guitar solo and killing some classic Metallica tune.
Make it happen.
 
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