Hamilton interested in returning "If he can play for Coach Flood"

[ru-baby]

That's too bad he doesn' have the love for Rutgers that many of us have. While I appreciate his loyalty to the only coach he has had, it is disappointing to hear him consider choosing a transient caretaker over the forever Rutgers.

Sounds like your flight is gone he would not continue to support the program. That's his choice. it's always disappointing to see people choose a temporary figure over their loyalty to the institution.

 

[JQRU91]

That's too bad he doesn' have the love for Rutgers that many of us have. While I appreciate his loyalty to the only coach he has had, it is disappointing to hear him consider choosing a transient caretaker over the forever Rutgers.

Sounds like your flight is gone he would not continue to support the program. That's his choice. it's always disappointing to see people choose a temporary figure over their loyalty to the institution.

That's easy for us as fans to say. We don't have to interact with the coaches on a daily basis.

 

[Caliknight]

That's too bad he doesn' have the love for Rutgers that many of us have. While I appreciate his loyalty to the only coach he has had, it is disappointing to hear him consider choosing a transient caretaker over the forever Rutgers.

Sounds like your flight is gone he would not continue to support the program. That's his choice. it's always disappointing to see people choose a temporary figure over their loyalty to the institution.

It's real talk. I am sure he loves Rutgers. However, when you are playing sports at this level, the coach means a helluva a lot.

 

[RU#1fan]

He'd probably play for Schiano, who recruited him for 3 years.

This. He won't play for the Coach who recruited him. The Coach he choose to play for while turning down Florida, Ohio St., Michigan, Miami, Georgia, Michigan St .
Yeah right..he won't play for Greg.

 

[Andy117]

I'm not a fan of Flood but a player's loyalty to the coach and the program is a good thing.

 

[RCTrooper]

If we demoted Flood back down to OL coach and assistant DL coach, would Darius stay?

 

[RUskoolie]

Other than a handful, where would they all go? The Mac level schools where they had offers?

Honestly, I would see a ton of them get recruited right over. There is always attrition during a coaching change.

 

[SanFranRutgers]

That's too bad he doesn't have the love for Rutgers that many of us have.

Just listen to yourself.

 

[krup]

Read a NJ paper and Caliknights's post. Enough said.

If Cal Coach Sonny Dykes was in NJ he would have been pushed to be run out of town within his first 2 years. Article after article would question his ability to coach and recruit. Article after article would have covered how Cal was doing everything wrong while Stanford had it all right. Article after article would have focused on kids leaving and a few trouble spots here and there that would have been blown into "What is wrong with Cal." We got none of that. Dykes is now 4-0 and the team is playing real well. There were a few articles about his and the team initial struggles here and there, but 100x fewer than would have been written in NJ. In turn, I think that helped him recruit and turn things around.

In contrast, in NJ he would never have a chance. NJ revels in the negative and garbage mindset (Real Housewives of NJ anyone? How about Snookie?). It oozes negativism (crap like Bridgegate happens everywhere - including out here in California -- its politics --- everyone is out for themselves in that game). I am beginning to think the NJ kids and their parents see all this and think of the benefits and getting the hell out of the state. Can't blame them.

Ain't no one of proven or up and coming value dumb enough to take this head coaching job without big guaranteed dollars. Maybe someone with something to prove (Bo Pellini?). Ultimately, you have to look for a Eddie Jordan type (strong ties to the University). Maybe a Steve Shimko or someone else in coaching circles rises to that level in 5 to 10 years. Until then it'll be a long wait.

So you are using a hypothetical example of what you feel would have happened if an "up an comer" coach had been hired to argue that it is PROVEN Rutgers can't hire one???
Meanwhile, in reality, the one time RU DID hire an up and coming coach (Schiano) things went completely different than your made up scenario (he was given a lot of time to turn things around and had success)!

 

[Caliknight]

Up and comer coach is code word for can't afford or get a real coach. The coaching highway is strew with failures who had that tag.

But that is the sandbox that Rutgers plays in unfortunately.

 

[ru-baby]

San fran why the attack

I wish for him to have the great feelings about more than just thefball aspect of his college experience and the current coaches. He can still have loyalty to flood and feel that he didnt want to go anywhere.

 

[krup]

Up and comer coach is code word for can't afford or get a real coach. The coaching highway is strew with failures who had that tag.

But that is the sandbox that Rutgers plays in unfortunately.

Well.the "sandbox" of schools that hired an up and coming coach from a lower level includes schools such as Auburn, Ole Miss, Miss St and Boise St, so it doesn't relate to the "can't afford" part as much as you claim.

Or, we could take the route of hiring a proven coordinator who deserves a promotion, which is a route that many schools also take. We didn't get that when we promoted Flood either.

Nah, I guess we should just listen to the people that worry so much that a new hire MIGHT be a failure, that they would rather stick with the known failure we already have.

 

[cRURah]

The very fact that a single comment from DH generated a 2 page thread on Flood demonstrates just how much insecurity the fan base has in RU's football future. This is a non-story at a big time program and no school should give it a second thought. Technically speaking the player said that he wanted to play for only Flood, he didn't say he wouldn't play for another coach. Big distinction between what someone wants to do and would actually do.

 

[GoodOl'Rutgers]

Wow. I guess I am for Hamilton going to the show. I'm not calling Hamilton a liar, but it seems odd that this would be his deciding factor. I think he is just being nice.

 

[derleider]

He'd probably play for Schiano, who recruited him for 3 years.

He'd probably play for lots of coaches. He's offering support for the current staff, which is obviously taking alot of fire from different directions. But its PR, not an ironclad contract.

Hamilton doesn't seem dumb. He will likely get NFL opinions between now and January and if they say he is a high pick, he probably goes like almost every one. If not, then he likely stays. The coach might be a deciding factor if hes projected on whatever the borderline of what he things is worth it is. And even then, like I said - I doubt that its a literal statement, instead of just a rhetorical one.

And even THEN, who cares. He's one player. We could keep Flood, Hamilton gets injured again and quits the game entirely before the season even starts.

 

[StyleKnight]

We should not be making any decisions based upon who Hamilton would like the coach to be. I appreciate everything he has done for this school. If we have a new coach next year, coming back to Rutgers would still be his best option.

 

[NickyNewark51]

We should not be making any decisions based upon who Hamilton would like the coach to be. I appreciate everything he has done for this school. If we have a new coach next year, coming back to Rutgers would still be his best option.

Of course its about RU....NO ONE is bigger than the program..the face of NJ's rep and pride is our FB TEAM to those outside NJ.

 

[NickyNewark51]

What does Rutgers offer a proven head coach that is better than other upper echelon jobs? Top ten things on offer, good bad and ugly:

1) Comp? No
2) High cost of living? Yes
3) Hostile media? Yes
4) Hostile fan base? Yes
5) Competing factions at odds with sports in the community? Yes
6) Weak administration? Yes
7) funding challenges compared to peers? Yes
8) Fertile recruiting grounds? Yes
9) Average facilities? Yes
10) Below average assistant pay? Yes


None of this adds up to hiring a proven P5 coach who wins bigger than Flood already has.

We got them right where we want them......anyone who would sign up for that is my kinda guy...bring it on..hottest fires makes the hardest steel.

 

[Caliknight]

We got them right where we want them......anyone who would sign up for that is my kinda guy...bring it on..hottest fires makes the hardest steel.

Yea, because making something unattractive is the best way to attract talent. Brilliant.

 

[rufeelinit]

If Darius graduates this year he will have other college options as a fifth year senior right? DL's are still in high demand and he has played well enough to where other schools will certainly pursue him if he expresses interest. Long way to go but this certainly seems like a viable scenario.

 

[SanFranRutgers]

 

[SanFranRutgers]

San fran why the attack

I wish for him to have the great feelings about more than just thefball aspect of his college experience and the current coaches. He can still have loyalty to flood and feel that he didnt want to go anywhere.

The implication that your "love" for Rutgers is somehow better informed, more far-reaching or more enlightened than his is pretty galling.

I recognize that you -- and others -- have calcified the conclusion that removing Flood is the only solution to what you perceive as your "woes," but you're talking about someone who is actually IN the institution you're talking about, and not merely a spectator, an alumnus, or one of its "trustees." Our anonymous Internet personae tend to be unwilling to accept that others may know more than we do, have insights and access to information that we don't, and -- as a result -- we overreach for rationalizations like "I know what's better for this football program and this university than he does," but the implication that Hamilton is merely looking out for himself or is incapable of taking a broader view of what Flood's tenure brings to Rutgers -- "warts and all" -- invites a stern rebuke.

I'll indulge the "Fire That Guy" mentality with an eye-roll and silence, for the most part, but I will not see a kid of Hamilton's character trolled by one of our supposed "fans" without voicing opposition.

 

[yesrutgers01]

Some just get upset if anyone has something good to say about Flood. But hell, they know better then the captain of the team.
I really believe that most of the players really do have this type of respect for Flood and it isn't just lip service. Though, in the end, DH will do what is best for him but I believe he is talking from his heart and not a script.

 

[NickyNewark51]

Yea, because making something unattractive is the best way to attract talent. Brilliant.

whats ''brilliant'' is you're attitude so typical of the type of fan that has NO faith or confidence and who probably would've seen the glass half empty rather than full....

 

[ru-baby]

Wow I find it pretty amazing that you don't see the absurd contradictions in your post.

You are attempting to rebuke someone for their interpretation of the proper caring for Rutgers, while you then set forth what is and what is not the proper way to interpret the situation.

Your posts are exactly the high horse this is what is right for the situation standard that you're attempting to rebuke. You're telling someone they should not set the standards while you were then setting forth what is the right stander. Ridiculous.

No one was impugning Hamilton. Just indicating that it was hoped that he had developed experiences and his college career that went beyond the people currently involved in the football program. Just as you rightfully indicate that no one has cornered the market on what is the what is not right level of Rutgers credentials, please know that applies to you as well as every one else .