Has Goode Gotten Better?

[RutgersMO]

Noticed he made 3 (three pointers) in last game and had 2 in this game. And yes I did post that that I thought
he was a liability and showed nothing. I was wrong.

He made be serviceable after all....but he needs to develop a GUNNER'S mentality.

When Sanders comes back, if you add Laruent, Williams, Goode, with inside presence of Foreman....dunno- we may have a shot against Minny.

Anyway Goode is finally starting to show signs of life.

Maybe too late....for EJ/ IMO suspect Goode's been asked to look elsewhere (transfer).

It would be ironic if Goode gets better as soon as he leaves RU.

MO

 

[RUTrack94]

Saw the same thing ... He actually took a few shots!

 

[shields]

hope he gets in weight room. Needs to be stronger. And hope he gets a lot of minutes for rest of year.

 

[RUJMM78]

He might be Rutgers best shooter in a game of horse.

 

[shields]

he actually shot the ball today. Did Jake even take a shot in first half?

 

[RU_DIO]

he actually shot the ball today. Did Jake even take a shot in first half?

He's gotten better. He went from a D3 player to a D2 player.

 

[RUonBrain]

How much does anyone want to bet Goode transfers and goes to the NCAA tournament before he graduates?

It is almost a lock based on what we normally see here.

 

[78CollegeAve]

Gawd, this means that the staff is turning J. Goode into a B1G contributor because he torched Northwestern for a couple of 3s? Oh, the humanity!

This is like people talking about Nigel Johnson as the savior because he had a couple of good games ... while scoring 87 (I think) on the season in B12 games. But, of course, the EJ enablers say you have to micro-analyze thr game-by-game to see that EJ will turn NJ into a B1G stud in 16-17 after a redshirt year being tutored by EJ and his Three Stooges.

 

[Hondo77]

This is the kind of crap we can look forward to talking about if Eddie stays. Wow.

 

[rufeelinit]

One day he maybe as good as Austin Carroll.

 

[jonS]

He actually seems more confident in taking a shot. And making it!!!! I guess we can't accuse EJ and crew of not developing players...

 

[Hondo77]

He actually seems more confident in taking a shot. And making it!!!! I guess we can't accuse EJ and crew of not developing players...

 

[BKIn118]

I'm not really sure why everyone is downing this kid....

He's showing (perhaps) what his value to the program could be in the coming years. He's a freshman after all, and there are plenty of those all over the country who aren't quite ready when they're 18 to play at the highest level.

I think he's shown a nice touch these past couple of games when he's gotten some time. Let's get him stronger, keep him in the program, and see what he can be in a year or so.

For a program that's struggled like it has these past months...maybe it's best to consider easing off the kids that are bearing the real burden here. Nobody asked for this, I assure you.

 

[RutgersYay]

I'm not really sure why everyone is downing this kid....

He's showing (perhaps) what his value to the program could be in the coming years. He's a freshman after all, and there are plenty of those all over the country who aren't quite ready when they're 18 to play at the highest level.

I think he's shown a nice touch these past couple of games when he's gotten some time. Let's get him stronger, keep him in the program, and see what he can be in a year or so.

For a program that's struggled like it has these past months...maybe it's best to consider easing off the kids that are bearing the real burden here. Nobody asked for this, I assure you.

Really think Goode has a role here in his Junior and Senior years.

 

[RutgersMO]

I'm not really sure why everyone is downing this kid....

He's showing (perhaps) what his value to the program could be in the coming years. He's a freshman after all, and there are plenty of those all over the country who aren't quite ready when they're 18 to play at the highest level.

I think he's shown a nice touch these past couple of games when he's gotten some time. Let's get him stronger, keep him in the program, and see what he can be in a year or so.

For a program that's struggled like it has these past months...maybe it's best to consider easing off the kids that are bearing the real burden here. Nobody asked for this, I assure you.

Agree. THat's why I apologized.

I hope he continues to get better / sticks it out on the banks.

MO

 

[B1GNJHoops]

It's more of a confidence/experience thing.

He showed a nice handle late against NW or maybe the previous game. On a fast break, he made a nifty behind the back dribble to evade an oncoming defender.

 

[knights1212]

I really don't understand why many have constantly bashed Justin. He currently has scored 66 points which is a lot more than many others have scored as a freshman. I hope he can add to his total over these next few games. He has made 5 of his last 7 three point attempts. Perhaps his confidence is really kicking in. I for one hope he stays in our program. I have also seen him make some nice passes and some defensive plays and grab some rebounds too.

 

[RU_DIO]

I really don't understand why many have constantly bashed Justin. He currently has scored 66 points which is a lot more than many others have scored as a freshman. I hope he can add to his total over these next few games. He has made 5 of his last 7 three point attempts. Perhaps his confidence is really kicking in. I for one hope he stays in our program. I have also seen him make some nice passes and some defensive plays and grab some rebounds too.

I am probably wrong but I just don't see it. He just doesn't seem athletic enough for this level.

I hope I'm wrong.

 

[SirScarlet]

I'm not really sure why everyone is downing this kid....

He's showing (perhaps) what his value to the program could be in the coming years. He's a freshman after all, and there are plenty of those all over the country who aren't quite ready when they're 18 to play at the highest level.

I think he's shown a nice touch these past couple of games when he's gotten some time. Let's get him stronger, keep him in the program, and see what he can be in a year or so.

For a program that's struggled like it has these past months...maybe it's best to consider easing off the kids that are bearing the real burden here. Nobody asked for this, I assure you.

This this this...

 

[KnightDC]

Bk if hes not averaging 20 ppt game with mondter dunks by his 5th game as unknow this fan base is declaring him a bust.

 

[RUChoppin]

Nothing against Goode as a player or a person - he was just thrown into a role he was in no way prepared for, and really needed 1-2 years of development before possibly becoming a contributor. When he was recruited, I thought - he's not heralded, but the staff must see something in him, and maybe he can become an off-the-bench sharpshooter as a junior or senior.

Unfortunately, using a scholarship on a player who wasn't likely to be a contributor for two years, using another on a transfer who has to sit, and wasting another by leaving it empty... left us with just 10 guys that we were expecting to contribute this year. When four of those went down, the roster management risks taken last year absolutely killed us.

That's not on Goode - and I hope he continues to develop and find success (here or elsewhere) - it's on a staff that put him in a position to fail.

 

[78CollegeAve]

I'm not really sure why everyone is downing this kid....

He's showing (perhaps) what his value to the program could be in the coming years. He's a freshman after all, and there are plenty of those all over the country who aren't quite ready when they're 18 to play at the highest level.

I think he's shown a nice touch these past couple of games when he's gotten some time. Let's get him stronger, keep him in the program, and see what he can be in a year or so.

For a program that's struggled like it has these past months...maybe it's best to consider easing off the kids that are bearing the real burden here. Nobody asked for this, I assure you.

He isn't an 18 year old true frosh. He had half a year of prep, redshirted at RU for half a year so that, you know, he could have the benefit of a semester playing against college players in practice, be coached by a college staff and get into an S&C program. He's a very, very lucky kid who got a completely unexpected scholarship to a P5 program. And he was quoted saying that at the time.

Yeah, so whatever happened to Justin Sofman after Fred Hill waited for his outside threat to prep ... before he sat on RU's bench for a season ... and transferred? Exactly. It was obvious in the OOC that Sofman was overmatched and it's the same for Goode. A couple of baskets in a blowout loss doesn't change the fact.

Sorry to be harsh, but this is a discussion board for fans. Bottom line -- RU isn't going to climb out of the talent hole by using scholarships on any kid who, at best, might be a limited role player in his 3rd or 4th years. If you have to wait on a kid, at least let him be either very big or very athletic.

 

[BKIn118]

I'm not taking criticism of Goode's game personally...

I just think differently about the possible trajectory of his career. You don't see what I see, or have seen. It's OK, you are drawing from your own impressions.

All solid programs get solid by recruiting kids like Justin Goode and KEEPING and DEVELOPING them. JMO

 

[mikefla]

I hate it when a kid who was recruited, asked to join the team, choses Rutgers and gets singled out in a a thread and dissed ad nauseum...

 

[ColonelRutgers]

Disagree. 78CollegeAve's post is spot on. Solid programs do not offer scholarships to players as totally overmatched as Goode is. I actually feel sorry for him because I feel the staff did him a disservice by bringing him especially as a midseason recruit and essentially burning a redshirt/transfer year. I cannot imagine a scenario under which he completes his career here and his future options will be limited by the staff's shortsightedness.

It's not personal. He's just not good enough and the failure is the staff's not Goode's as far as I'm concerned.

 

[toby83]

waste of a scholarship

who is accountable

 

[RUChoppin]

Programs do take a flyer on lesser recruited players from time to time to see if they'll work out. They either fail to make an impression (and transfer out) or make enough of an impression that they are retained and turn out to be contributors as upper classmen. They are never pressed into service as freshmen... and the only reason Goode had to step into more significant minutes was because of overall roster mismanagement.

We're taking a flyer on two more kids for next year, which brings us to 25% of the roster.

 

[Local Shill]

I'm not taking criticism of Goode's game personally...

I just think differently about the possible trajectory of his career. You don't see what I see, or have seen. It's OK, you are drawing from your own impressions.

All solid programs get solid by recruiting kids like Justin Goode and KEEPING and DEVELOPING them. JMO

OK, I'll bite. What have you "seen" that the unwashed masses like most of us haven't?
He seems like a nice kid, but would he even get on the floor on a team like Penn State, Illinois or Nebraska? We won't even get into a team that's actually good.

Heck, would he see the floor here if either Johnson were still here and No. 3 could control himself off the court?

 

[TobyTyler1]

OK, I'll bite. What have you "seen" that the unwashed masses like most of us haven't?
He seems like a nice kid, but would he even get on the floor on a team like Penn State, Illinois or Nebraska? We won't even get into a team that's actually good.

Heck, would he see the floor here if either Johnson were still here and No. 3 could control himself off the court?

Shill, what he is saying is it's well known internally that Goode dominates the scrimmages, routinely scores at will and makes Corey and Nigel cry uncle with his defense. they actually have to routinely sit him during these scrimmages as he embarrasses the others so much it's causing a lack of confidence which is spilling into game play.

 

[rutgersal]

Disagree. 78CollegeAve's post is spot on. Solid programs do not offer scholarships to players as totally overmatched as Goode is. I actually feel sorry for him because I feel the staff did him a disservice by bringing him especially as a midseason recruit and essentially burning a redshirt/transfer year. I cannot imagine a scenario under which he completes his career here and his future options will be limited by the staff's shortsightedness.

It's not personal. He's just not good enough and the failure is the staff's not Goode's as far as I'm concerned.

Solid programs don't share their basketball arena with the baseball team. This is why we have to take chances on Goode caliber players. We have to have the patience to develop players. A player like Goode, you only know what he can do towards the end of his sophmore year. To say he's not good enough after his first year, playing at this level, is premature. Its a huge leap from prep school to this level. Lets hope he continue to develop.

 

[bac2therac]

in typical RU fans mom and pop fashion, a kid scores a couple baskets and all of a sudden he is a player, happens all the time...too funny. For what we need here in this rebuilding project its not the right fit

 

[ColonelRutgers]

Solid programs don't share their basketball arena with the baseball team. This is why we have to take chances on Goode caliber players. We have to have the patience to develop players. A player like Goode, you only know what he can do towards the end of his sophmore year. To say he's not good enough after his first year, playing at this level, is premature. Its a huge leap from prep school to this level. Lets hope he continue to develop.

Maybe you need to wait two years to tell if a guy has talent but I've watched enough college basketball to recognize when a guy is in over his head. This is his second year removed from high school. This is harsh maybe but in my 30 plus years of following Rutgers basketball I cannot think of a player under 6-8 as overmatched as Goode. When he's out there on defense it's like 5 on 4. That isn't going to change.

 

[Loyal-Son]

I'm not really sure why everyone is downing this kid....

He's showing (perhaps) what his value to the program could be in the coming years. He's a freshman after all, and there are plenty of those all over the country who aren't quite ready when they're 18 to play at the highest level.

I think he's shown a nice touch these past couple of games when he's gotten some time. Let's get him stronger, keep him in the program, and see what he can be in a year or so.

For a program that's struggled like it has these past months...maybe it's best to consider easing off the kids that are bearing the real burden here. Nobody asked for this, I assure you.

This! Show some respect for these young men who are battling through a dismal season.

Absolutely nothing positive can come out of belittling our players, whatever their shortcomings may be.

Constantly bashing them emphasizes your lack of character far more than it does theirs.

 

[cRURah]

Posters on this board have been jumping on this kid since the start of the season. It's completely uncalled for. He's a freshman and he's not even the worst player on the team who's getting significant playing time. And he's hardly responsible for the current ineptitude that has made this program one of the worst ever.

 

[TobyTyler1]

Posters on this board have been jumping on this kid since the start of the season. It's completely uncalled for. He's a freshman and he's not even the worst player on the team who's getting significant playing time. And he's hardly responsible for the current ineptitude that has made this program one of the worst ever.

Mr Goode - I agree your son was thrust into a tough situation and he's an easy target for a frustrated fan base. Please tell Mrs Goode i said 'Hi'!