the CDC report as of 4pm Wed. . 1) its not totally accurate for the latest few days and 2) based on about 11,000 tests.
take from it what you want people.
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the CDC report as of 4pm Wed. . 1) its not totally accurate for the latest few days and 2) based on about 11,000 tests.
take from it what you want people.
As I've said in multiple other threads. I work in large scale epi focused CV drug development. I've led some of the largest infection adjudication committees in modern drug development. I'm still in touch with those spanning Harvard, UofWash, Duke etc... who are also keeping tabs with former CDC heads.
2 weeks ago - they were cautious. On a call with them yesterday, they've calculated the contagiousness of this to be on the extreme upper end of any "regular flu". They cautioned if we keep current thinking itll hit 35-50% of the US population.
No. The mortality rates wont decrease. They will only decrease. Mortality is already under reported because data sets of those that have died have broader MedDRA classifications sometime attributed to their reason for death (such as resp. failure, sepsis, etc..) not the potential real reason.
No one in a leadership position of any of the most prominent medical communities thinks this will trend down or just "blow over".
But yes, I've switched to work from home 100% since 2 weeks ago and will only go out when absolutely necessary.
Cut the crap and spreading disinformation when it is clear you and your ilk have close to 0% grasp of what is really happening out there.
It's important to heed the advice of public health and medical experts because selfish cretins like many of you have no idea what this is about. The idea is to minimize transmission as much as possible so that fewer people get infected, avoid exponential and rapid increase and thereby keeping mass treatment manageable. Would any student athletes likely die from playing, no. Could they transmit to others, and those to still others, and so on, yes and even at a low mortality rate, the absolute #s will rise very fast in the population. Anything to avoid what's happening in China and Italy should be done
If you got your degree from RU I am embarrassed!
I’m curious - Did the world stop like this for Polio? What did they do back then? I mean, most people who got that either died or ended up paralyzed, right?
Maybe the answer is that lack of the internet made this type of reaction impossible and It would’ve been the appropriate reaction if it could. Certainly the families of those that fell to Polio probably would feel that way. But on the other hand, the impact of extended mass shut downs on the working poor isn’t going to be something to take lightly either. There isn’t a good answer here.
Maybe the answer is that lack of the internet made this type of reaction impossible and It would’ve been the appropriate reaction if it could. Certainly the families of those that fell to Polio probably would feel that way. But on the other hand, the impact of extended mass shut downs on the working poor isn’t going to be something to take lightly either. There isn’t a good answer here.
The really funny part is if anyone on the team has coronavirus they have already spread it throughout the team. These eat, sleep, and sh*t together everyday especially now that they have been in a hotel together for the past 3 days.... playing the games adds no additional risk unless they allow fans to play.
Thanks for the info but JUST TO BE CLEAR
you still leave the house potentially spreading the virus?
The mortality rate will go down. That doesn't mean this isn't about to get much much worse. Experts predicting 480k US deaths in one model at a 0.5% death rate. Another says 1.5 million.
We didn't test enough early so it is spreading under the radar out of control. The US has only tested 10k people total. It's been handled like a complete disaster. The hospitals will get overloaded and that is when it gets really dangerous.
As a researcher and scientist, you should do more research before doing the general public a disservice by spreading misleading information. What you're doing is wildy irresponsible
I think telling the public that up to 1.5 million Americans will die is wildly irresponsible.
You are so out of it, its not funny. Seriously, stop posting.
Even if the absolute death rate declines (which it will), the issue is what is happening in Italy, where they are literally having to turn people away without any medical care because the hospitals are full. There are a high percentage of those who contract this virus that require ICU/ventilators. So if it spreads quickly in the US, hospitals will max out and many, many people will die of not only CV, but of other issues, simply because no care is available.
That is what we are up against. That is why its not safe to have a bunch of kids spread the disease around to everyone they come into contact with. Its not about stopping it at this point. It is about slowing it down so that people catch it over the next six months, and not all at once, and can receive treatment.
there was no internet back then
growing up as a kid in the 70s there was a lot of hysteria over catching the swine flu
Exactly. This fool is not being malicious (I hope) but the nonsense he is spewing is part of the problem
Lets assume some of these kids playing may have parents and or grandparents. They contract the virus, go home,...
Shutting down "everything" requires the federal govt to mandate it which it hasn't done. Instead, different folks are making different decisions, a totally uncoordinated response. Not the way a public health crisis should be handled.
I've heard that their a couple factors in why Italy got hit so hard that don't pertain to us, its not to say we shouldn't take this seriously but we got to stop scaring the crap out of everyone. And God forbid if terrorists are taking notes right now seeing want a virus scare will do to this country mentally, financially or what have you....OR if this virus fizzles (we should all pray to God it does) what happens if the next one is the ONE but no one heeds the calls to prepare or take precautions because we've cried "WOLF" too many times over the years with these viruses.
I'm not saying that we shouldn't be cautious. But I mean, Im still at work and in close contact w many people all day. Many others are too. I completely understand closing conventions and not allowing fans, etc. But is there truly need to cancel all sports games bc the NBA did?
i have heard the 480k number as well. The problem is we have 30 dead in a month. These experts are saying that we are going to see 53k people die every month from now until December 31st 2020. It doesnt work liek that but at some point we are going to see really big numbers.
China has had it since December and they only have 3,169 deaths with 80k+ confirmed cases.
i think a big problem is when "experts" and "jounalists" speak there are no consequences to their words. If 480k people dont die they will just say well we did x, y and z to prevent it. They are like teplon.
How many scientists predicted NYC would be under water by now because of climate change? How many who have said it were fired? NONE all they say is the model was wrong NYC will be under water by 2030....
How many times has the media said that something trump did was going to ruin the country? him getting elected, taxes, russia, tariffs.... All were going to ruin the country, has any media member been fired because they were wrong? No so they keep saying it.
All i know is that these "experts" are now famous alot of them for the first time in their lives...
No I don't think it is. IMO (I'm a physician) and in the opinion of most healthcare providers is that the contagiousness of this virus will overwhelm the hospital system resulting in needless deaths that could have been prevented. I hope it doesn't deteriorate to the extent that Italy has/had to triage patients.
I think his point is the media credibility is so bad, that when they report they are skewing certain issues.....I think politics needs to stay out of this but apparently the msm cannot help itself. The media isnt to blame for anything here but the media should concentrate on FACTS and how we can improve the situation going forward rather than concentrate on what we didnt do right the past two weeks...there will be plenty of time for post mortums. We need to figure out the best foot forward now and get everyone united with just facts and the right medical professionals speaking not a Rachel Maddow sounding hysteria alarms..and ditto for Sean Hannity downplaying everything. These are the people you should not be watching
That's not true at all.
Also, how come no big countries that border Italy are anywhere near that level of lockdown?
Italy doesn't have the medical infrastructure we have here and they were late to react to china travel ban whereas Trump acted in January in regards to China (and was called a racist by the political left)
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