i could care less that we lost 58-0 and have no expectations for this season. With that said, even if Ash does a good job what is to say we will ever get near the level of OSU, UM, MSU, etc. My point is we may be punching above our weight even when we turn this around. The old Big East we could at least compete if we had good coaching and good talent for us.
I liked it better in the Old Big East
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Agreed the big ten blows, who cares if these great teams come to ru to beat our brains in.
I'd take the B1G 100 times out of 100.
It's either Big Ten or AAC. It's either OSU blowing us out or Houston blowing us out. It's either 40 million dollars a year or 4 million.
I liked the Big East too but we are in 100x better shape then UConn.
I liked the Big East too but we are in 100x better shape then UConn.
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It's these woe is me posts that piss me off. We've been a member for 3 years and you're already giving up.
We get a full share of $ in a few years. That alone makes it worth it!
We get a full share of $ in a few years. That alone makes it worth it!
Dude, we are a national joke today, our score against osu has college football fans across the county laughing at us. Getting our asses kicked for half the money everyone gets sure isn't awesome.
I am entitled to my opinion, getting beat 58-0 every other weekend isn't fun. No issue with Ash, I have every reason to think he will be good, but even if that is so the difference between us and the elite of the B1G is too much to get reasonably close even if we vastly improve. We looked like a FBS team out there and that is not any knock on anyone on the field or our sideline today.
Sucks to be you then. I'd rather be striving for greatness and falling short then permanently mired in ultra-boring mediocrity. The big ten forces us to strive for greatness.
What do you think would happen if we play UL today? It's not the conf., it's us.
I guess you guys forget all the beat downs we took in "the old Big East." Teams get blown out all the time. No fun, no question, but I haven't gotten a single disparaging call, text, EM or IM, from anyone anywhere today. People will remember the whooping Washington put on #7 Stanford this week, not us.
Losing as such to the potential national champ doesn't mean much after today.
Didn't WVU beat us by like 72 points one year in the Old Big East?
I prefer playing the best and losing than beating up on the Syracuses of the world.
Well, if you could care less then feel free to go ahead and start caring less and less, until you reach zero on your caring meter. Right now, it's apparently registering a little amount of care. I know I couldn't care less how much you care about today's final score but I care about it because Rutgers did not look very competitive, especially on offense. Need to keep upgrading the talent in the upcoming recruiting classes.
Oh, and B1G >>>>> AAC and it's not even close. Rutgers will take its lumps while it builds up the program. But even 10-12 years ago, MSU might have been thinking how they could possibly get up to the level of UM or OSU, yet they were able to.
Rutgers never competed in the old Big East...never. People thought RU would be forever punching above their weight with Miami and VT in the conference.
RU simply doesn't have good talent right now, so they'd still be getting their heads kicked in by most of the conference. No QB, No Punter, No long range kicker. Injured kick returner and slot receiver. Last great WR is playing on the Dolphins. The last vestiges of the good recruiting classes are graduating this year. Tons of decommits in the past 3 years, arrests, etc.
Rutgers would only be competing with Syracuse and BC this year if they were still in the old Big East. Everyone, Temple included, would be coming into Piscataway and likely leaving with W's.
Coaching staff is forcing square pegs into round holes with the new system and it's going to be a year or two before we all see whether that was a good decision.
And Rutgers will be making more than all of them in a couple years. While I wish the old Big East were still around, I definitely am not going to look back and imagine we as fans are in a worse place nowadays.
Anyone who doesn't want Rutgers in the B1G, in fact, does not have a right to an opinion - I looked it up and it's clearly written.
sorry.
you can leave now.
sorry.
you can leave now.
For me it's either the B1G or go back to playing Lehigh and Princeton. The AAC and even the Big East were a waste of time and resources. So I'm all for leaving the Big Ten only if we drop down to 1-AA. But with our facilities we'd better be the best damn 1-AA in the country. Like ND State level. So I think it's in the university's best interest to stay in the big ten.
Rutgers played Miami and VT in consecutive games in 2001 and lost a combined 111-0. Then lost to a transitioning UConn at home the following week. It'll get better, once Rutgers can run an offense.
My cell has been blowing up all day with group texts abusing the team and today's performance. I'm quite certain many others as well. Telling friends and coworkers 'we're in the B1G' is old news (and no one cares) and for the fans at the stadium week in and week out, the bottom line is seeing a good product and WINNING .....As the saying goes, winning cures all.
We're way over our head in this conference...obviously
Will it change someday? Very likely yes....and that's when a big time splash hire is made imo....like a Schiano
Until that day.....my advice is to buckle up
We're way over our head in this conference...obviously
Will it change someday? Very likely yes....and that's when a big time splash hire is made imo....like a Schiano
Until that day.....my advice is to buckle up
But you're not entitled to your own idioms. You couldn't care less ...
And if VT, WVU, and Miami didn't fall and we didn't get better, that would have continued. However, none of those schools were as entrenched as OSU and UM. It won't be a combo of us getting better and them coming back to the pack. They can have bad years (Hoke era etc), but they hve been doing this at a high level for 75+ years. Also, the second tier teams are not too shabby and are good more often than not. There is a lot of traffic and obstacles to clear, much more than the old Big East.
Ha we lost to Louisville by 70 in the "old" big east, stop being a baby
The disturbing thing to me is that you are worried about what other people think/say on group texts.
To be exact, the score WVU put on us that day when we were in the "Old Big East" which some seem to be pining for as the "good old days" was 80-7, (and that's with GS as HC). -So you were actually only off by 1 point, but any way you look at it, that was a slaughter, (and WVU definitely wasn't the #2 ranked team in the country at the time).
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Where did you read "I'm worried" ?
Not at all.....just expressing water cooler talk that I'm sure many can relate too.....
Don't you think Notre Dame was embarrassed when Duke beat them? For God's sake, it's college football. Any given saturday some crazy shit can happen. Grow a pair and enjoy it for what it is
Never said he was almost 20 years ago.....had we hired him and not Ash.....it's just my opinion that we wouldn't be whiffing on so many big time recruits
I'll go as far as to say it's a fact. Greg coached an NFL team.....think he's got a little cred ;)
Northwestern was lost in the woods for decades and then they hired the right coach and they made it to a Rose Bowl. I will take one Rose Bowl every 25 years over 20 or so crappy bowls that we would be invited to if the BE still existed. Most realistic fans knew that we were in for a decade or so of struggling, of course you had those on this message board that thought we would compete in 2 or 3 years, but they were always clowns that needed to be ignored by serious fans. It is a long process and for many on this board they may never see it come to fruition, but I would be willing to bet that today's RU students will see us in a Rose Bowl in their lifetimes
Not Source, but will give some Source style info to those who might feel the B1G is to big for RU.
Maybe these scores will put fear in their hearts about belonging to the Ivy League with the way teams belonging to the Ivy League (now) handled the RU FB team and I'll add another program that should be given a wide berth when RU schedules its OOC.
Nov.10 1886, Penn 65, Rutgers 0
Nov. 5 1887 Yale 74, Rutgers 0
Nov. 10 1888 Princeton 82, Rutgers 0 (New Brunswick)
Oct. 24 1888 Princeton 80, Rutgers 0 ( Princeton)
Oct. 6 1888 Yale 65, Rutgers 0
Oct. 19 1889 Wesleyan 58, Rutgers 4
Nov. 3 1890 Yale 70, Rutgers 0
Maybe these scores will put fear in their hearts about belonging to the Ivy League with the way teams belonging to the Ivy League (now) handled the RU FB team and I'll add another program that should be given a wide berth when RU schedules its OOC.
Nov.10 1886, Penn 65, Rutgers 0
Nov. 5 1887 Yale 74, Rutgers 0
Nov. 10 1888 Princeton 82, Rutgers 0 (New Brunswick)
Oct. 24 1888 Princeton 80, Rutgers 0 ( Princeton)
Oct. 6 1888 Yale 65, Rutgers 0
Oct. 19 1889 Wesleyan 58, Rutgers 4
Nov. 3 1890 Yale 70, Rutgers 0
Fair point of view. Im afraid we will be like Indiana or Purdue or Vandy in SEC. Maybe a 10+ win season every 15 yrs or so. Mostly at best 7-8 wins each season
I guess Penn State should also never have joined the B1G.
"On November 11, 1889, Penn State suffered their worst loss in football history falling to Lehigh 106-0. And it might have been worse if the Lehigh head coach and the official had not decided to mercifully end the game with five minutes to go."
http://www.blackshoediaries.com/2010/6/28/651622/penn-state-history-the-lehigh
