Then you don't know Wm. Dowling's gospel.
That sound you hear is Princeton laughing at the idea that they'd put us on their schedule.
I liked it better in the Old Big East
- Thread starter RUTGERSCHEWY
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Maybe you haven't lived long enough and that's why you never seen it [laughing]
But on September 5, 1987, the Miami Hurricanes beat the Florida Gators 31-4
and on October 23, 2004 Iowa beat the school Who Cannot Be Named 6-4
"A Wolverine fan born and raised in Michigan"....don't worry about me. I used to not post on game day but sometimes it's just not possible. The same people who were making excuses for Flood's awful recruiting, and coaching, are bashing Ash who is handcuffed by the lack of QUALITY DEPTH on this roster and that's why I've ditched by "48-hour rule." Some of these guys claimed Washington wasn't good and then bashed Ash for getting stomped by them. Boy do they look stupid right now. They thought our O would automatically be better despite losing our #1 weapon and #1 OL'man,, having WR's who never did a thing against a single good passing D and lousy TS's, and installed a new O with a QB who isn't made to run it with the guy who can being a true frosh.. People didn't want to listen to me - and others - to the point of getting me banned for speaking realistically from the Kent State disaster until the day Flood was canned. Our roster is littered with Flood recruits who - NO FAULT of their own - had either NO or minimal P5 offers other than RU OR had more FCS offers than FBS ones. But no...they were ALL "hidden gems"...all "diamonds in the rough" ...all didn't bother to "list the rest of their offers." I dealt with listening to these guys defending Fudd and got banned for speaking truthfully. All the crap about "well they didn't ist their other offers after blah, blah, blah...." Bullshit. Called this 3+ years ago (as did others).Many of us completely expected to get rocked by Washington, and called it from the moment the season was over, regardless of who was HC this year, and bamm! OSU and Michigan? Probably 2 of the 5 or 6 best teams in the nation even though only 1 will make the playoff. We should have beaten Iowa by 2 TD's. The play calls were there, however, our QB overthrew Harris a wide-open twice then decided to play "I can do this," instead of pitching to a wide-open Harris, on the 4th down play.... 21 points on those 3 plays but people want to bitch about Merhinger and the play calling while we DO NOT have the personnel right now.. Hysterical. "Athletic" teams - which Iowa isn't - will do more of the same which is why I don't like our chances against Minny, Illinois, Maryland, or Penn State (aside from Mich, MSU) We'll see, however, all of us who predicted 4-8 are probably going to be on-the-mark, unfortunately, unless we pull some major upsets. I think we beat Indiana and get 1 of the other 4 original "toss-ups" from Ill, PSU, Minny and Maryland. We will be the underdog in EVERY game from here on out. No question. One thing we could NOT afford this year was injuries to our 1st team and we got crushed losing Grant and Lambert. ST's suck other than Grant - thanks to the lack of quality depth - and even his punt and kick TD returns were ALL on his own. No "gaping holes' or anything else for him to make things easy. Not Ash and Co's fault, either, IMHO.
Peace.
We got bombarded more times than I can remember in "the old Big East." Maybe tomorrow someone will list them all.
Are you saying that schiano would be a big splash hire now? Because he wasn't a big splash when he first got the ru job, he was basically Ash (DC from a national power, first hc job, changing the culture to rebuild). And remember how long it took for him to right the ship.
100%. It's about name branding as much as anything and he has it. And yeah he can coach up a defense
Who would have ever believed we'd be playing kids from Tennessee and Texas? One reason.....B1G branding
Add a guy like a Schiano and the handful of local high schools who recruit the entire state start to become ours to lose
the faster that happens the better....not saying CA won't do it but he's got a long road in front of him
Yea the old Big East was great!
August 30 7:30 PM at Buffalo* UB Stadium • Buffalo, NY W 31-15 22,658
September 8 4:00 PM at No. 2 Miami (FL) Miami Orange Bowl •Miami, FL L 0-61 39,804
September 22 12:00 PM No. 9 Virginia Tech Rutgers Stadium •Piscataway, NJ ESPN+ L 0-50 27,514
September 29 7:00 PM Connecticut* Rutgers Stadium • Piscataway, NJ L 19-20 24,415
October 6 12:00 PM Syracuse Rutgers Stadium • Piscataway, NJ ESPN+ L 17-24 17,511
October 13 4:00 PM at Temple Veterans Stadium •Philadelphia, PA ESPN+ L 5-30 19,861
October 20 3:30 PM Navy* Rutgers Stadium • Piscataway, NJ ESPN+ W 23-17 29,101
November 3 1:00 PM at West Virginia Mountaineer Field •Morgantown, WV L 7-80 44,685
November 10 1:30 PM Pittsburgh Rutgers Stadium • Piscataway, NJ L 0–42 13,520
November 17 12:00 PM Boston College Rutgers Stadium • Piscataway, NJ ESPN+ L 7–38 13,012
November 23 1:00 PM California* Rutgers Stadium • Piscataway, NJ L 10–20 18,111
August 31 7:00 PM Villanova* Rutgers Stadium •Piscataway, NJ L 19–37 20,911
September 7 7:00 PM Buffalo* Rutgers Stadium • Piscataway, NJ L 11–34 19,101
September 14 7:00 PM Army*
Rutgers Stadium • Piscataway, NJ ESPN+ W 44–0 28,514
September 21 12:00 PM at Pittsburgh Heinz Field • Pittsburgh, PA ESPN+ L 3–23 32,519
September 28 7:00 PM at No. 11 Tennessee* Neyland Stadium • Knoxville, TN PPV L 14-35 103,925
October 12 3:30 PM West Virginia Rutgers Stadium • Piscataway, NJ ESPN+ L 0–40 12,937
October 19 1:00 PM at No. 3 Virginia Tech Lane Stadium • Blacksburg, VA PPV L 14–35 64,907
October 26 1:30 PM at Syracuse Carrier Dome • Syracuse, NY L 14-45 37,158
November 2 12:00 PM No. 1 Miami Rutgers Stadium • Piscataway, NJ ESPN+ L 17-42 27,222
November 16 3:30 PM Temple Rutgers Stadium • Piscataway, NJ ESPN+ L 17–20 10,225
November 23 1:00 PM at No. 8 Notre Dame* Notre Dame Stadium • Notre Dame, IN NBC L 0-42 80,795
November 30 12:00 PM at Boston College Alumni Stadium • Chestnut Hill, MA ESPN+ L 14–44 33,786
August 30 7:00 PM Buffalo* Rutgers Stadium •Piscataway, NJ W 24–10 25,011
September 6 3:40 PM at Michigan State* Spartan Stadium • East Lansing, MI ESPN+ L 28–44 72,579
September 13 3:30 PM at Army* Michie Stadium • West Point, NY ESPN+ W 36–21 30,035
September 27 7:00 PM Navy* Rutgers Stadium • Piscataway, NJ ESPN+ W 48–27 32,382
October 4 12:00 PM No. 4 Virginia Tech Rutgers Stadium • Piscataway, NJ ESPN+ L 22-48 28,956
October 11 12:00 PM at West Virginia Mountaineer Field •Morgantown, WV ESPN+ L 19–34 50,896
October 18 1:30 PM Pittsburgh
Rutgers Stadium • Piscataway, NJ L 32–42 28,101
October 25 1:00 PM at Temple Lincoln Financial Field •Philadelphia, PA W 30–14 18,376
November 8 12:00 PM at Connecticut* Rentschler Field • East Hartford, CT ESPN+ L 31-38 40,000
November 15 3:30 PM Boston College Rutgers Stadium • Piscataway, NJ ESPN+ L 25–35 31,019
November 22 12:00 PM at No. 14 Miami (FL) Miami Orange Bowl • Miami, FL ESPN+ L 10-34 39,572
November 29 12:00 PM Syracuse Rutgers Stadium • Piscataway, NJ W 24–7 18,563
August 30 7:30 PM at Buffalo* UB Stadium • Buffalo, NY W 31-15 22,658
September 8 4:00 PM at No. 2 Miami (FL) Miami Orange Bowl •Miami, FL L 0-61 39,804
September 22 12:00 PM No. 9 Virginia Tech Rutgers Stadium •Piscataway, NJ ESPN+ L 0-50 27,514
September 29 7:00 PM Connecticut* Rutgers Stadium • Piscataway, NJ L 19-20 24,415
October 6 12:00 PM Syracuse Rutgers Stadium • Piscataway, NJ ESPN+ L 17-24 17,511
October 13 4:00 PM at Temple Veterans Stadium •Philadelphia, PA ESPN+ L 5-30 19,861
October 20 3:30 PM Navy* Rutgers Stadium • Piscataway, NJ ESPN+ W 23-17 29,101
November 3 1:00 PM at West Virginia Mountaineer Field •Morgantown, WV L 7-80 44,685
November 10 1:30 PM Pittsburgh Rutgers Stadium • Piscataway, NJ L 0–42 13,520
November 17 12:00 PM Boston College Rutgers Stadium • Piscataway, NJ ESPN+ L 7–38 13,012
November 23 1:00 PM California* Rutgers Stadium • Piscataway, NJ L 10–20 18,111
August 31 7:00 PM Villanova* Rutgers Stadium •Piscataway, NJ L 19–37 20,911
September 7 7:00 PM Buffalo* Rutgers Stadium • Piscataway, NJ L 11–34 19,101
September 14 7:00 PM Army*
September 21 12:00 PM at Pittsburgh Heinz Field • Pittsburgh, PA ESPN+ L 3–23 32,519
September 28 7:00 PM at No. 11 Tennessee* Neyland Stadium • Knoxville, TN PPV L 14-35 103,925
October 12 3:30 PM West Virginia Rutgers Stadium • Piscataway, NJ ESPN+ L 0–40 12,937
October 19 1:00 PM at No. 3 Virginia Tech Lane Stadium • Blacksburg, VA PPV L 14–35 64,907
October 26 1:30 PM at Syracuse Carrier Dome • Syracuse, NY L 14-45 37,158
November 2 12:00 PM No. 1 Miami Rutgers Stadium • Piscataway, NJ ESPN+ L 17-42 27,222
November 16 3:30 PM Temple Rutgers Stadium • Piscataway, NJ ESPN+ L 17–20 10,225
November 23 1:00 PM at No. 8 Notre Dame* Notre Dame Stadium • Notre Dame, IN NBC L 0-42 80,795
November 30 12:00 PM at Boston College Alumni Stadium • Chestnut Hill, MA ESPN+ L 14–44 33,786
August 30 7:00 PM Buffalo* Rutgers Stadium •Piscataway, NJ W 24–10 25,011
September 6 3:40 PM at Michigan State* Spartan Stadium • East Lansing, MI ESPN+ L 28–44 72,579
September 13 3:30 PM at Army* Michie Stadium • West Point, NY ESPN+ W 36–21 30,035
September 27 7:00 PM Navy* Rutgers Stadium • Piscataway, NJ ESPN+ W 48–27 32,382
October 4 12:00 PM No. 4 Virginia Tech Rutgers Stadium • Piscataway, NJ ESPN+ L 22-48 28,956
October 11 12:00 PM at West Virginia Mountaineer Field •Morgantown, WV ESPN+ L 19–34 50,896
October 18 1:30 PM Pittsburgh
October 25 1:00 PM at Temple Lincoln Financial Field •Philadelphia, PA W 30–14 18,376
November 8 12:00 PM at Connecticut* Rentschler Field • East Hartford, CT ESPN+ L 31-38 40,000
November 15 3:30 PM Boston College Rutgers Stadium • Piscataway, NJ ESPN+ L 25–35 31,019
November 22 12:00 PM at No. 14 Miami (FL) Miami Orange Bowl • Miami, FL ESPN+ L 10-34 39,572
November 29 12:00 PM Syracuse Rutgers Stadium • Piscataway, NJ W 24–7 18,563
Yea the old Big East was great!
August 30 7:30 PM at Buffalo* UB Stadium • Buffalo, NY W 31-15 22,658
September 8 4:00 PM at No. 2 Miami (FL) Miami Orange Bowl •Miami, FL L 0-61 39,804
September 22 12:00 PM No. 9 Virginia Tech Rutgers Stadium •Piscataway, NJ ESPN+ L 0-50 27,514
September 29 7:00 PM Connecticut* Rutgers Stadium • Piscataway, NJ L 19-20 24,415
October 6 12:00 PM Syracuse Rutgers Stadium • Piscataway, NJ ESPN+ L 17-24 17,511
October 13 4:00 PM at Temple Veterans Stadium •Philadelphia, PA ESPN+ L 5-30 19,861
October 20 3:30 PM Navy* Rutgers Stadium • Piscataway, NJ ESPN+ W 23-17 29,101
November 3 1:00 PM at West Virginia Mountaineer Field •Morgantown, WV L 7-80 44,685
November 10 1:30 PM Pittsburgh Rutgers Stadium • Piscataway, NJ L 0–42 13,520
November 17 12:00 PM Boston College Rutgers Stadium • Piscataway, NJ ESPN+ L 7–38 13,012
November 23 1:00 PM California* Rutgers Stadium • Piscataway, NJ L 10–20 18,111
August 31 7:00 PM Villanova* Rutgers Stadium •Piscataway, NJ L 19–37 20,911
September 7 7:00 PM Buffalo* Rutgers Stadium • Piscataway, NJ L 11–34 19,101
September 14 7:00 PM Army*Rutgers Stadium • Piscataway, NJ ESPN+ W 44–0 28,514
September 21 12:00 PM at Pittsburgh Heinz Field • Pittsburgh, PA ESPN+ L 3–23 32,519
September 28 7:00 PM at No. 11 Tennessee* Neyland Stadium • Knoxville, TN PPV L 14-35 103,925
October 12 3:30 PM West Virginia Rutgers Stadium • Piscataway, NJ ESPN+ L 0–40 12,937
October 19 1:00 PM at No. 3 Virginia Tech Lane Stadium • Blacksburg, VA PPV L 14–35 64,907
October 26 1:30 PM at Syracuse Carrier Dome • Syracuse, NY L 14-45 37,158
November 2 12:00 PM No. 1 Miami Rutgers Stadium • Piscataway, NJ ESPN+ L 17-42 27,222
November 16 3:30 PM Temple Rutgers Stadium • Piscataway, NJ ESPN+ L 17–20 10,225
November 23 1:00 PM at No. 8 Notre Dame* Notre Dame Stadium • Notre Dame, IN NBC L 0-42 80,795
November 30 12:00 PM at Boston College Alumni Stadium • Chestnut Hill, MA ESPN+ L 14–44 33,786
August 30 7:00 PM Buffalo* Rutgers Stadium •Piscataway, NJ W 24–10 25,011
September 6 3:40 PM at Michigan State* Spartan Stadium • East Lansing, MI ESPN+ L 28–44 72,579
September 13 3:30 PM at Army* Michie Stadium • West Point, NY ESPN+ W 36–21 30,035
September 27 7:00 PM Navy* Rutgers Stadium • Piscataway, NJ ESPN+ W 48–27 32,382
October 4 12:00 PM No. 4 Virginia Tech Rutgers Stadium • Piscataway, NJ ESPN+ L 22-48 28,956
October 11 12:00 PM at West Virginia Mountaineer Field •Morgantown, WV ESPN+ L 19–34 50,896
October 18 1:30 PM PittsburghRutgers Stadium • Piscataway, NJ L 32–42 28,101
October 25 1:00 PM at Temple Lincoln Financial Field •Philadelphia, PA W 30–14 18,376
November 8 12:00 PM at Connecticut* Rentschler Field • East Hartford, CT ESPN+ L 31-38 40,000
November 15 3:30 PM Boston College Rutgers Stadium • Piscataway, NJ ESPN+ L 25–35 31,019
November 22 12:00 PM at No. 14 Miami (FL) Miami Orange Bowl • Miami, FL ESPN+ L 10-34 39,572
November 29 12:00 PM Syracuse Rutgers Stadium • Piscataway, NJ W 24–7 18,563
Excellent post. It's one thing when Ohio State, Michigan and Nebraska beats your ass to a bloody pulp. But when the likes of Pitt, BC and West Virginia are doing it it's way more embarrassing.
Chrissakes...I'm just glad all you guidos aren't feeling this way. Good luck the rest of the year from your hillbilly friends.
Purdue has been in the conference forever and lost by 40 to Maryland. We are not that pathetic, won 8 games first year with a lousy coach.
Please drink battery acid then remind yourself we will be making around 50 mil per year in the big ten starting in 2022.
I have friends who are sceptical of Rutgers football. Honestly, the "respectable" win against Iowa last week mattered more to them than the blowout this week. They don't see how Iowa is weaker than they should be or etc. They expect OSU to pummel us and are seeing "progress" when we compete against decent B1G teams. Beat Indiana, beat Il, and beat PSU, and the season was decent on all levels.
Now will we win those 3 games? Not unless we fet our heads out of our butts, stop dropping easy catches, get our QB either out of the game and find a better one, or wake the hell up etc. Unfortunately, I don't think we win these games, maybe 1 or 2 of them, however, it is there to happen. If we lose every year to Michigan and OSU I can take it if we have years where we beat the rest of them and go to a good bowl. So chill out.
My thing is, yes it sucks getting destroyed, but you know what? I went about this whole week acting like we didn't have a game this week. I just counted it out and checked in in the first quarter but other than that, I didn't watch, I just did some fall activities and enjoyed my Saturday. I'm getting ready for an awesome tailgate Saturday and also again, not thinking about the win or loss.
Gotta stay sane and just watch things build. This isnt the year, and after Grant went down, it's really not the year. Just gotta hope the class stays together and Oden or another QB emerges next season and we come out swinging next year
Now will we win those 3 games? Not unless we fet our heads out of our butts, stop dropping easy catches, get our QB either out of the game and find a better one, or wake the hell up etc. Unfortunately, I don't think we win these games, maybe 1 or 2 of them, however, it is there to happen. If we lose every year to Michigan and OSU I can take it if we have years where we beat the rest of them and go to a good bowl. So chill out.
My thing is, yes it sucks getting destroyed, but you know what? I went about this whole week acting like we didn't have a game this week. I just counted it out and checked in in the first quarter but other than that, I didn't watch, I just did some fall activities and enjoyed my Saturday. I'm getting ready for an awesome tailgate Saturday and also again, not thinking about the win or loss.
Gotta stay sane and just watch things build. This isnt the year, and after Grant went down, it's really not the year. Just gotta hope the class stays together and Oden or another QB emerges next season and we come out swinging next year
Sorry, missed them both. I like the Iowa game if it were 5 safeties.
The 1942 Sugar Bowl saw Fordham beat up on Missouri. 2-0.
I'm pretty sure I remember seeing a 3-2 bowl game. It could have been St. Mary's.
We have to get back to being a mid level program like we were with Schiano before we can be big time.
Made the misery index - Irrational message board threads. At the end of the article.
Good job.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...eorgia-michigan-state-florida-state/91441762/
Good job.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...eorgia-michigan-state-florida-state/91441762/
Like the saying goes, would you rather be a small fish in small pond,
or a small fish in a large pond.
or a small fish in a large pond.
What a third rate loser's mentality. It makes me puke to think you're serious.
I also have that fear. Have been waiting years for a turn around, and it doesn't help that I'm not getting any younger.
Not that this thread needs another post, but, tOSU blows everyone out. I spent the time to read this thread (ugh) and not one person mention the 50 plus point shutout tOSU put in Wisconsin in the big ten champion ship game two or three years ago. Proves the point that once the week comes and goes it just doesn't matter big picture. Oh and Wisconsin is doing just fine since.
Looking at the AP top 25, there is really only a handful programs that can be comparable to Rutgers in terms of fan support, recruiting base and financial support and some are a stretch. There is no reason why we can't be any of those teams, but realize it's not easy to complete with the 20 or so other programs who just have more resources and support than Rutgers has.
Those teams are:
Houston
Louisville (stretch)
Miami (stretch)
Baylor (stretch)
Boise St
Colorado
West Virginia
Utah
Fortunately we have a better recruiting base than half of those teams.
Those teams are:
Houston
Louisville (stretch)
Miami (stretch)
Baylor (stretch)
Boise St
Colorado
West Virginia
Utah
Fortunately we have a better recruiting base than half of those teams.
I understand both sides. I warned that culturally we had very little in common with the B10. The ACC was a much better fit, especially from a geographical standpoint. No one needs to be lectured on why this happened, it's a 5 letter word that starts with m and ends with y. In 10 years we will be considered a full member from a financial standpoint, and the influx money will help (maybe). Does the B10 mandate that its revenue be earmarked strictly for athletics? If not, Trenton will most definitely cut appropriations. I could be mistaken, but once the revenue is distributed I don't believe there is a B10 oversight board.
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Sorry, but it was the 1936 Sugar Bowl, LSU. 3 TCU. 2. Illegal grounding in the end zone.
1901 Rose Bowl (not the official name) Michigan was beating Stanford so badly, Stanford quit with 8 minutes left.
Or the 1923 Rose Bowl. Cal vs Wash & Jeff passing was just allowed and the passing yards were ZERO. We could maybe tie it.
its a no brainer to be in the Big 10 but the reality is it will take decades to get to the level of Ohio State/Michigan. Schools like Indiana, Illinois and Purdue continue to chase that dream. Every now and then someone at the bottom will pop up for a great season or two but its those two programs and then the rest hoping they can get to the second level of this league like Wisky and Iowa. RU isnt getting full money for another 5 years so its going to be awfully tough to get better than 7-5 in the next few years
In order to beat an OSU team lead by Urban Meyer and a Michigan team lead by Jim Harbaugh or perhaps a Michigan State Team lead by Dantonio (sp) will be almost on par with winning a lottery. This is what you'll need to win: a team loaded with 5th year seniors. Good all around talent and very good talent in key positions such as QB, RB, WR, kicker and punter. Finally, you will need the zebra's to give you every possible break. The team I just mentioned would probably finish 8-4. Now ask yourself, how far are we away from such a team??
People do realize we very well may have received our 2 big road losses against the potential National Champion and potential National Runner-up, correct?
you know this thread is an epic fail when USA Today is making fun of this thread. Maybe this is the worst thread in history.
FIVE TOTALLY REAL AND IRRATIONAL MESSAGE BOARD THREADS
“Sterlin Gilbert next HC” — HornsDigest.com (Texas)
“Time to go back to recruiting 2* with the occasional 3*” — KillerFrogs.com (TCU)
“Is Rico McGraw a double agent for Butch?” — DawgVent.com (Georgia)
“I liked it better in the old Big East” — ScarletNation.com (Rutgers)
“Arizona State accepts invitation to the Big Sky” — cactusranch.com
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...eorgia-michigan-state-florida-state/91441762/
FIVE TOTALLY REAL AND IRRATIONAL MESSAGE BOARD THREADS
“Sterlin Gilbert next HC” — HornsDigest.com (Texas)
“Time to go back to recruiting 2* with the occasional 3*” — KillerFrogs.com (TCU)
“Is Rico McGraw a double agent for Butch?” — DawgVent.com (Georgia)
“I liked it better in the old Big East” — ScarletNation.com (Rutgers)
“Arizona State accepts invitation to the Big Sky” — cactusranch.com
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...eorgia-michigan-state-florida-state/91441762/
Haven't read the thread but I was scared that sentiment would happen with some. I think it's a factor in declining season ticket sales-I was scared and think Rutgers overestimated the attraction in getting beat up by the big Ten biggies. I thought it might hurt ticket sales with some (once the initial excitement) as in our old leagues we were constantly battling for a bowl game. Nowadays wed be have thrilled with the Yankee Bowl.
***That said it was a NO BRAINER to join the B1G-that may have saved RU football. We were in grave danger of being left out of the major conference. Our top competitors had left or were a threat to leave. There was no guarantee the AAC would or will survive.
Ask UCONN if they are happy with their situation. Also with RU there is a long history of not recruiting well vs the top conferences (i.e. in hoops A-10 vs Big East-turning down the Big East 3 times essentially killed our basketball program).
***Based on the TV revenue ALONE B1G admission was a must. RU as a state school, needs to follow Title 13 (and was supporting 20+ college sports teams) and we were losing about as much money on college sports as any school in the country.
Myself and many others wished and hopes for the ACC as there were essentially more (geographic) rivals, but the call never came. I'm positive the administration tried and I remember several of us writing my old D-Bag chancellor at UNC and ACC Commissioner Jim Swofford.
Unfortunately it may not show on the field for awhile-or ever- but B1G admission was a blessing. Hopefully we have a bunch of supportive fans who wll be there no matter what the record.
UA Today IS right-irrelevant topic. Surprised they didn't include one of the Flood threads.
***That said it was a NO BRAINER to join the B1G-that may have saved RU football. We were in grave danger of being left out of the major conference. Our top competitors had left or were a threat to leave. There was no guarantee the AAC would or will survive.
Ask UCONN if they are happy with their situation. Also with RU there is a long history of not recruiting well vs the top conferences (i.e. in hoops A-10 vs Big East-turning down the Big East 3 times essentially killed our basketball program).
***Based on the TV revenue ALONE B1G admission was a must. RU as a state school, needs to follow Title 13 (and was supporting 20+ college sports teams) and we were losing about as much money on college sports as any school in the country.
Myself and many others wished and hopes for the ACC as there were essentially more (geographic) rivals, but the call never came. I'm positive the administration tried and I remember several of us writing my old D-Bag chancellor at UNC and ACC Commissioner Jim Swofford.
Unfortunately it may not show on the field for awhile-or ever- but B1G admission was a blessing. Hopefully we have a bunch of supportive fans who wll be there no matter what the record.
UA Today IS right-irrelevant topic. Surprised they didn't include one of the Flood threads.
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It's good that we're being laughed at because it means people are paying attention. People didn't laugh at WVU 80, RU 7 and BuffaNova because they weren't paying attention. The problem with the Big East days is there were no national expectations. We had a chance to be "the fly in the ointment" because a Big East team was never worthy enough to play for the BCS Title. People didn't start paying attention to RU until 2006. Remember in 2007 when Reece Davis said, "Welcome to the regular season Rutgers!" when Maryland beat us fairly soundly at home after rolling Buffalo, Navy, and Norfolk State? Opening the 2008 season by getting our ass kicked on opening day by Fresno State at home?
The truth is that RU has never had the ability to play the schedule we're playing. This is something we former "schedule tards" knew that many people here wanted to deny. We believed we needed to pay the price and play teams like Ohio State in order to get to the point where we could beat teams like Ohio State. West Virginia and Louisville would play those types of teams and RU was 0 for WVU and 3-6 vs. Louisville.
RU vs. the best of the Big East:
Miami 0-11
Virginia Tech 1-12 (won in 1992)
West Virginia 2-19 (won 2 of the first 4 in 1992 and 1994)
Louisville 3-6
Cincinnati 3-6
RU was 1-15 vs Syracuse from 1987 -- 2002.
RU was 3-11 vs Pitt in the first 14 seasons of Big East play.
Yeah, I miss those days.
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There is nothing wrong with striving to ba a Nebraska or an Iowa . Their fans are passionate and enjoy themselves immensely. Be patient and enjoy the journey,as bumpy as it may be. Remember that sports is cyclical..urban and harbaugh and dantonio will not be there forever. When they leave,and they will, those schools will backslide a bit into the rest of the pack.
That same year, Miami toasted us 61-0 followed by Virginia Tech rolling us 50-0. Pitt beat us 42-0 that year and we LOST TO TEMPLE 30-5! The next year featured a 40-0 loss to WVU and a 42-0 loss to Notre Dame. Let's not forget losing to Navy 54-21 in 2004 either. I'm all chocked up. I miss those days man!
