If You Hate the Scoreboard Noise, Contact PJ Mullen

[jaydogsmooth1]

Here's my thing - if they don't want feedback, don't ask for feedback
B/c out of all the feedback this board has given, there's been 2 people who actually like the trash that's been the game day production for the past few years

My wife, who isn't a huge FB fan, and daughter (who I'm attempting to make a FB fan) both looked at me at the Akron game and said "I don't know how you do this w/the noise"

Re. the Boardwalk, same thing. They went for literally 5 minutes, walked back to the Blue lot, and commented how the noise was ruining what otherwise was a tremendous idea

 

[Joey Bags]

Also the less full the stadium is the louder the PA system will sound since its ricocheting off the bleachers and concrete. Less bodies to absorb the soundwaves.

 

[S_Janowski]

Our crew mostly loves the gameday production, especially the kids. We'll be emailing PJ to thank him for his efforts.

You’re literally the only one in these threads who loves the trash music and sound effects and has no problem with unhealthy decibel levels.

You and maybe AL. That’s an awful island to be on.

You’re entitled to your opinion but if these threads the past few years where dozens (maybe hundreds) of fans of all ages are complaining and this isn’t enough proof for you that the general fan is getting fed up with the trash sound effects, music and unhealthy sound level then you’re just being a straight up troll on this subject.

 

[jaydogsmooth1]

You’re literally the only one in these threads who loves the trash music and sound effects and has no problem with unhealthy decibel levels.

You and maybe AL. That’s an awful island to be on.

You’re entitled to your opinion but if these threads the past few years where dozens (maybe hundreds) of fans of all ages are complaining and this isn’t enough proof for you that the general fan is getting fed up with the trash sound effects, music and unhealthy sound level then you’re just being a straight up troll on this subject.

That's my beef
If Rutgers doesn't want honest feedback (and when I mean feedback, I mean actually listening to your paying customers by implenenting some of the changes they've requested), then they shouldn't ask for it
That's insulting our collective intelligence, and I take exception to that

 

[S_Janowski]

Glad I’m not the only one. He basically transplanted the Penn State Stadium Music Selection/noise to Rutgers Stadium, with the exception of the train horn, which came from West Virginia. Pretty sure everything that is done, is done with Schiano’s blessing.

The New York vs Chicago idea came from USC.
They did LA vs NY.

You’re the king of horrid and dumb@ss takes so no surprise here.

Sad that Numbers is on an island with you. Not a good look for him.

 

[mildone]

I think you were the only one who disliked the music/volume, but you're old. Personally, I care very little about the gameday entertainment - the only thing I care about is winning and I'm much happier last year and this year than the previous 8 years. Of course, I'd like to win even more.

Ha. If I’m old, you’re prehistoric.

And I’m sure everybody agreed with me that it was too loud. They’ve all been telling you that but you can’t hear them anymore on account of all the hearing loss you have from the stadium sound-system.

 

[RU848789]

You’re literally the only one in these threads who loves the trash music and sound effects and has no problem with unhealthy decibel levels.

You and maybe AL. That’s an awful island to be on.

You’re entitled to your opinion but if these threads the past few years where dozens (maybe hundreds) of fans of all ages are complaining and this isn’t enough proof for you that the general fan is getting fed up with the trash sound effects, music and unhealthy sound level then you’re just being a straight up troll on this subject.

5 people liked my post, so far from alone. Like I said show me the data.

 

[RU848789]

Ha. If I’m old, you’re prehistoric.

And I’m sure everybody agreed with me that it was too loud. They’ve all been telling you that but you can’t hear them anymore on account of all the hearing loss you have from the stadium sound-system.

What did you say?

 

[jaydogsmooth1]

5 people liked my post, so far from alone. Like I said show me the data.

Love ya numbers, but the data you're requesting is right here on this board
Out of the 6 people that like it, there has to be 5x that amount that not only don't like it, but hate it

Take all the comments against it, and the likes, and do it by each username
*** Note, I'm not going to do this, but I'm being conservative in that estimate

If you ran a business where 80 % of your customers weren't satisfied, or rather, were downright pissed off at your product, you wouldn't be in business very long

 

[HPNJRUfan]

5 people liked my post, so far from alone. Like I said show me the data.

1 of those people is Al, 1 is Bac laughing at the post, and 1 is me with a sad reaction.

 

[S_Janowski]

5 people liked my post, so far from alone. Like I said show me the data.

Um actually 5 people interacted with your post.

1 person laughed and 1 person had a sad face.

We might as well count Al’s like as a negative.

Lmfao.

The data is the large amount of posters of all ages the past few years complaining game after game and year after year. If you can’t accept that as data you’re just being a stubborn @ass, excuse my French.

 

[Erial_Lion]

David Jones nailed it last year (and yes, the "radio personality" David mentions is PJ)...

Why college sports marketers bombard us with nonstop noise and screamers at mics | Jones

When the crowd gets jacked up and the band starts blasting at a college athletic event, the sound goes through your body. It’s a spiritual experience. But that’s not the sound I’m hearing in most college venues anymore. It's a fabricated noise that’s anything but joyous.

www.pennlive.com

Why are we doing this? Why do universities feel they must? Nobody likes it. Not the students. Not the middle-aged. Not the old folks. But nobody seems to be able to stop it.

We’ve just come to accept it as inevitable and try to tolerate it, knowing eventually it’ll be turned off when the game starts and we’ll get what we came for.

Until then, the promotion people seem to be following the credo of hype machines all over sports media: Don’t bother with originality or creativity. All you need to do is yell at high volume.

 

[bac2therac]

5 people liked my post, so far from alone. Like I said show me the data.

Bahaha...you dying on this hill is classic...but you have past history

 

[bigbirdRU]

5 people liked my post, so far from alone. Like I said show me the data.

Show me data anyone LIKES the music.

 

[bac2therac]

Show me data anyone LIKES the music.

Three 7 year olds in his posse love it

 

[kupuna133]

Mic drop post @Knight Shift. Rutgers should be worried.

Because Numbers has to act like the smartest in the room. He is waiting for data..lol

Exactly I don’t go to a concert and expect a football game to break out during the down time it takes to break down the stage in between acts. I also don’t need to be constantly stimulated during breaks in action at a sporting event. The football game is the entertainment not the douche nozzle AV kid in charge of the sound board.

 

[mildone]

Three 7 year olds in his posse love it

It's not three 7 year olds.

It's two young girls who have been coming to RU FB games since they were born. They wore noise-cancelling headphones when still infants and would mostly sleep in their parent's arms during games. These two kids are incredibly cute, incredibly well-behaved and just generally adorable.

By far, the biggest reason I miss going to games is not getting to hang out with them at the tailgates. I mostly only get to see them at my Halloween and Superbowl parties these days.

Anyway, leave them out of the debate.

 

[mildone]

if playing the music loudly does not bother you, but bothers other people, it would be considerate of them to listen to the people that ARE bothered.

Not only considerate, but smart. Given the number of people who’ve mentioned avoiding going to games in person due to the sound levels, extrapolate it out and it’s likely a not insignificant number of lost revenue.

Because, when it’s season ticket holders, it also ends the generational attachment a family has to attending RUFB games. Instead of building a larger and larger fanbase over time, which produces more potential donors and increases the odds of finding that one or two super-donors, it reduces the number of season ticket holders and donors over time.

Maybe the program will get to winning so much nobody will care. But it sure isn't at that point now.

All because they won’t simply lower the volume a little bit and provide periods of quiet. It's a very dumb hill to die on for RU to insist on overly loud sound levels. They can play whatever they want, just lower the sound pressure some.

 

[rutgersal]

Love ya numbers, but the data you're requesting is right here on this board
Out of the 6 people that like it, there has to be 5x that amount that not only don't like it, but hate it

Take all the comments against it, and the likes, and do it by each username
*** Note, I'm not going to do this, but I'm being conservative in that estimate

If you ran a business where 80 % of your customers weren't satisfied, or rather, were downright pissed off at your product, you wouldn't be in business very long

Complete nonsense. No one in my section has ever complained about the music. The only complaint I’ve seen is on this board. The band played more than I’ve ever heard last game.

 

[Knight Shift]

5 people liked my post, so far from alone. Like I said show me the data.

You don't speak emoji, do you.? @HPNJRUfan used a sad face, and @bac2therac laughed at you. Those are not "likes" in emoji language.

I agree with you that not "everybody" hates the loud barrage of nonsensical noise, but I'm willing to bet it's 60% or 70% that hate it or prefer not to have it. Also, this may be dependent on where one sits in the stadium. Where we sit in the club, the volume was ear splitting on Saturday. I could barely hear the radio broadcast with an earplug. That's pretty bad. And as I (and others) have noted, the sound assault it probably dependent on the section one sits in.

 

[jaydogsmooth1]

Complete nonsense. No one in my section has ever complained about the music. The only complaint I’ve seen is on this board. The band played more than I’ve ever heard last game.

Al, it sucks

The guy running it is a clown, from a rival school, who we hired instead of someone internal from our accredited program that's superior to theirs

Out of the entire board, 2 guys actually like it
One's obsessed with weather, one thinks a fieldhouse is all we need to have a Bama type run

 

[Knight Shift]

Complete nonsense. No one in my section has ever complained about the music. The only complaint I’ve seen is on this board. The band played more than I’ve ever heard last game.

al, if Rutgers athletics shot dog turds out of the t-shirt cannons into the crowd, you would think that is great too. It is great you are so enthusiastic about everything Rutgers does (and Penn State, and Illinois, and Indiana, and Syracuse-and you continue to broadcast on this board about how great those schools have it to tell recruits to go there). Maybe this is dependent on the sections people sit in, and such complaints should not be ignored. You do realize that by turning a deaf ear and a blind eye to complaints that "customers" will go elsewhere? That is where we are 95% likely headed. We have club seats, and we are in the last year of a large annual donation to athletics. Our name is on the plaque in the RWJBarnabas Health Athletic Performance Center. But we are just whiners who should shut up and go away. We will.

 

[bac2therac]

Complete nonsense. No one in my section has ever complained about the music. The only complaint I’ve seen is on this board. The band played more than I’ve ever heard last game.

the facebook pages also complain about the board. Even made the podcast today. Stop shilling for your penn state buddy

 

[bac2therac]

It's not three 7 year olds.

It's two young girls who have been coming to RU FB games since they were born. They wore noise-cancelling headphones when still infants and would mostly sleep in their parent's arms during games. These two kids are incredibly cute, incredibly well-behaved and just generally adorable.

By far, the biggest reason I miss going to games is not getting to hang out with them at the tailgates. I mostly only get to see them at my Halloween and Superbowl parties these days.

Anyway, leave them out of the debate.

too bad your overlord brought them up. I wonder if y'all play Taylor Swift tunes at your tailgate. I bet your favorite is when they play that awful IN THE MIDDLE OF THE KNIGHT song

 

[RW90]

It's been discussed ad nauseam already, but I'll take a good R-U or Bells Must Ring chant over the blasted horn and "hype" playlist SHI blasts out any day of the week.

 

[Purple-Ed]

Complete nonsense. No one in my section has ever complained about the music. The only complaint I’ve seen is on this board. The band played more than I’ve ever heard last game.

Complete nonsense. No one in my section has ever complained about the music. The only complaint I’ve seen is on this board. The band played more than I’ve ever heard last game.

Bullshit.

 

[Knight Shift]

Here's the podcast discussion cued up (2 minutes of discussion- transcript below):




what are your takes on the volume and frequency of the piped in music mus at SHI there seems to be a growing consensus it is ruining game day experience for many it feels kind of like an infectious disease. that has now as he says here uh also infected Jersey mikes because they play the same crappy compilation of make some noiz and just like cycling through just like a few seconds of each song and it's just like what are we do like let something grow organically a little bit like if you're going to play the one song that's fine if you're G to play a different song that's fine if you're not going to play songs that's fine.

but it just seems like there might be some legs behind the psychological warfare thing that uh you guys were talking about Alec because it just it's the same Loop of 15 seconds of audio at every sporting event and it just sucks like it it it just flat out sucks and the volume's cranked up to 180 for some reason.

like what the Yeah you and I don't usually watch the games outside so we don't hear it as loud but even in the Press Box it gets loud and uh yeah it's I it's tough because it's not even like I feel like it's geared towards like you know the the kids I guess I say as as you know being 23 years old just graduated in May but they're not even staying either so it's like what what do you how do you fix that.

I don't know and then the train horn it's like where does this train horn have to do with Rutgers is it just like Trains in I guess the new brunwick train station about a five minute drive away. there's a lot that needs to be fixed there in terms of during the game in-game festivities and in-game stuff.

There's no traditions really it's the different walk out every year they got rid of the only cool thing they had with the axe. I thought that was awesome um Thunder what happened to thunder what happened to thunder no they have the axe but they
don't actually chop into the the they don't have the anymore it's dangerous I think the stump got removed

 

[mildone]

too bad your overlord brought them up. I wonder if y'all play Taylor Swift tunes at your tailgate. I bet your favorite is when they play that awful IN THE MIDDLE OF THE KNIGHT song

Weirdly random post, Bac. Having a bad day, are you?

Do you need me to come give you a hug and make you feel all better?

 

[kupuna133]

al, if Rutgers athletics shot dog turds out of the t-shirt cannons into the crowd, you would think that is great too. It is great you are so enthusiastic about everything Rutgers does (and Penn State, and Illinois, and Indiana, and Syracuse-and you continue to broadcast on this board about how great those schools have it to tell recruits to go there). Maybe this is dependent on the sections people sit in, and such complaints should not be ignored. You do realize that by turning a deaf ear and a blind eye to complaints that "customers" will go elsewhere? That is where we are 95% likely headed. We have club seats, and we are in the last year of a large annual donation to athletics. Our name is on the plaque in the RWJBarnabas Health Athletic Performance Center. But we are just whiners who should shut up and go away. We will.

My experience is Rutgers has an issue listening to their most ardent supporters, both financially and loyalty, This issue is so easilly solvable.

But the issue is and always has been, the administration at Rutgers doesn't get it. They don't Know how alienating they have been for my 30+years association with the school. As I mentioned on here in the past. I was asked to assist with young alumni in NYC and worked with athletics department and foundation to assist with fundraisers on Schiano's first go around. Suggestions fell on deaf ears and the follow through was awful Alumni we engaged and got to make financial commitments and donations. Going to think this is part of the issue with NIL. The school doesn't know how to get out of their own way

My wife is an alumnus of one our old Big East Catholics. We commit equally to both institutions. Not saying we are looking for gifts or notoriety (were small time) but what they have sent and offered in comparison is amazing. Upgrades to tix. All expense overnights in Philly when they know we will be in attendance. for games or other school activities. The little things.

 

[Knight Shift]

My experience is Rutgers has an issue listening to their most ardent supporters, both financially and loyalty, This issue is so easilly solvable.

But the issue is and always has been, the administration at Rutgers doesn't get it. They don't Know how alienating they have been for my 30+years association with the school. As I mentioned on here in the past. I was asked to assist with young alumni in NYC and worked with athletics department and foundation to assist with fundraisers on Schiano's first go around. Suggestions fell on deaf ears and the follow through was awful Alumni we engaged and got to make financial commitments and donations. Going to think this is part of the issue with NIL. The school doesn't know how to get out of their own way

My wife is an alumnus of one our old Big East Catholics. We commit equally to both institutions. Not saying we are looking for gifts or notoriety (were small time) but what they have sent and offered in comparison is amazing. Upgrades to tix. All expense overnights in Philly when they know we will be in attendance. for games or other school activities. The little things.

Similar experience here, except we are are Rutgers through and through. I will say the people in the RFund (they are now all under the Foundation umbrella) get it and are generally very good to excellent. The academic side--forget it. Our RFund reps have had to carry the water for years on something we got involved in. It's to the point that we felt guilty about asking for help to get a few things ironed out to make the situation better. If it was not for the RFund contacts, we would have given up.

 

[RU848789]

Love ya numbers, but the data you're requesting is right here on this board
Out of the 6 people that like it, there has to be 5x that amount that not only don't like it, but hate it

Take all the comments against it, and the likes, and do it by each username
*** Note, I'm not going to do this, but I'm being conservative in that estimate

If you ran a business where 80 % of your customers weren't satisfied, or rather, were downright pissed off at your product, you wouldn't be in business very long

This board is not representative of the fan base, especially students. Show me some data and I'll concede the point. Until then I'll keep arguing for sport, as it's at least a little amusing to see how many twisted panties there are... and I'm not above a little trolling given how hard I get trolled around here.

 

[jaydogsmooth1]

This board is not representative of the fan base, especially students. Show me some data and I'll concede the point. Until then I'll keep arguing for sport, as it's at least a little amusing to see how many twisted panties there are... and I'm not above a little trolling given how hard I get trolled around here.

How is this board not representative of the fan base?

Re. students, they don't show up worth a shit (and stay) on a consistent basis unless it's a night game or B1G time opponent (not entirely their fault either - team hasn't been a traditional powerhouse and the school sucks at working w/them, instead breaking their balls and making things unnecessarily difficult for them)

Plus, they don't donate squat - not trying to be curt, but in life, that gets you very little say in the grand scheme of things

Usually, I don't care about anything except winning
I'm telling you though, I've been around to multiple other venues around the country
Ours is the worst, by far
PSU's is a close second, but most other places are normal - ours is comically awful

 

[kupuna133]

This board is not representative of the fan base, especially students. Show me some data and I'll concede the point. Until then I'll keep arguing for sport, as it's at least a little amusing to see how many twisted panties there are... and I'm not above a little trolling given how hard I get trolled around here.

This board is probably more representative of the people that Rutgers wants to engage. It's people that have passion, that have skin in the game and a greater cross section demographically.

 

[kupuna133]

Similar experience here, except were are Rutgers through and through. I will say the people in the RFund (they are now all under the Foundation umbrella) get it and are generally very good to excellent. The academic side--forget it. Our RFund reps have had to carry the water for years on something we got involved in. It's to the point that we felt guilty about asking for help to get a few things ironed out to make the situation better. If it was not for the RFund contacts, we would have given up.

Yea pretty much my experience. We as a committee did our job. The University left alot of money on the table. And tarnished relationships with many to this day. This was early 2000's Wall St money.

 

[mildone]

This board is not representative of the fan base, especially students. Show me some data and I'll concede the point. Until then I'll keep arguing for sport, as it's at least a little amusing to see how many twisted panties there are... and I'm not above a little trolling given how hard I get trolled around here.

This board is not representative of things where the the intensity of attachment to RU sports are involved. Donation attitudes, for instance. Because, just by taking the time to regularly converse about RU sports here, people are already demonstrating a higher-than normal attachment to RU sports than most fans whose interest doesn't extend to constantly discussing stuff like we do here.

However, for people's perception of stuff like sound levels, this board is probably highly representative of the entire fanbase. Several young folks have chimed in over the years about it, including young parents with kids.

Besides, there's already more than enough data to suggest that the sound levels should be lowered and some periods of relative quiet injected now and then during games. For people with no issues, they probably won't even notice it. For those who have issues with the sound, they'll be overjoyed.

Are you really trying to state that a ~20% cut in sound pressure levels and maybe 20 minutes of the game without sound blasting out of the sound-system would make you dislike the game experience? Do you really think the students will even notice it or care?

 

[hinson32]

This is why people leave in the 3rd qtr., they have enough of the non- game nonsense. What more proof do you want.

People have been leaving in the 3rd quarter since 1917

 

[rutgersal]

just use more band … a lot more band. Put a mic in front of the band.

Use the band on third downs instead of the lame “make some noise” voice over and blaring air horn for 5 seconds

i hated the bells must ring routine on third down but this newer nonsense is making me miss that even

The band is already Miked

 

[mildone]

How is this board not representative of the fan base?

As I mentioned in my post about it, there are ways in which this forum's members are not going to represent the general RU fan very well.

However, in this particular case, sound pressure level perception, I'm pretty sure this forum or any other large collection (1000+) of RU game attendees who sit in various areas of the stadium, are a reasonable representation of the general perceptions. So the opinion of that group can probably be extrapolated out to the entire fanbase with reasonable accuracy.

The argument that the forum members here are on the older side is not really valid since the forum members here are also disproportionately representative of the sort of "intensity" of attachment to RU sports people have, thus representing a large percentage of season ticket holders and regular game attendees. Students do not represent anything close to the majority of paying game attendees, right? Older people do.

So again, this group here is perfectly representative when it comes to attendees and stadium sound level perception.

 

[Rutgers36]

Here is my data point. The cacophony that comes from the scoreboard is awful. It is too loud and largely mindless repetitive garbage. I can’t have a conversation or hear the band enough. It is a football game not a club. If catering to the non-paying students, they leave exciting games early. It has disrupted my game experience. At the USC game the board was used sparingly and heard a lot of “Fight On” from the band. Much superior game experience to ours.

 

[robcac26]

What year did this onslaught on our ears begin? I'm sure it was within the past five years or so. I've been going to games since my freshman year in 2005 and I don't ever remember anyone saying in the 15 or so years before this nonsense that the PA music wasn't loud enough and that the band plays too often.