Not absolving the NFL of anything but it was their choice to play.
So if you get in an automobile accident because of faulty car design or poor highway design, it was your choice to drive that car or ride that highway.Not absolving the NFL of anything but it was their choice to play.
LawProf How were your nuptials ?
Hey camden! I read Felonious's question, and then your comment immediately thereafter, and at first thought it was a response to his question!:)A lot of the risks weren't known then.
C'mon man. Celebrations are mild compared to a generation ago. Remember the Mark Gastineau sack dance? The Redskins Fun Bunch? The Ickey Shuffle? Elmo Wright, who started it all in nineteen seventy-freakin'-one? I could go on, but you get the idea.I'm sick of the CONSTANT over the top celebrating and video reviews.
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A lot of the risks weren't known then.
Completely AGREE...after JoeTheismans cracked knee was heard by millions they still played football...I'm disgusted with what's become of the greatest mans game outside boxing and whered the Heavyweight gone?? Damn spell Check..ok, you can agree, or disagree with my statement. I'm a sixty two yr old former
lover of this game. college , and pro. if any one around my age remembers
the game in the sixties, and seventies ,when men, were men, and the game of
football was not some sort of a social experiment politics,and social
causes would never be associated with the game. I mean like pink October...I get it, lets bring
awareness of breast cancer to the general public.. is that the only cancer that needs awareness
its still a mans game, I think. why not prostate cancer...I have realitves who
died of breast cancer. I get it...I cant watch in October. I try and avoid the
n.f.l in my birth month.....then there's the sacred don't harm the qb.
cant hit him high, cant hit him low.really, this is foot friiggin ball. I'm sure
joe Namath, and johnny U.would have loved, the force field the league
has installed to protect the so called franchise player. again johnny, and joe
would find it quite amusing..and now the famous concussion proticall
me being the heartless bastard I am, have no feeling's for the player.. BULL!
you sign a contract to make millions of bucks to play a violent game
if you want to keep your brains in your head get a job in the real world
you have a college education. sorry for my rant, but, this is .were the game is
headed it will be totally unwatchable in the next decade....I was watching
the MMA by accident, as I was channel flipping. Rhonda rousey was getting
the livin tar knocked out of her, and she wasn't wearing a specially designed
helmet to protect her face, and her brain....what a hypocritical world we
live in. there doesn't seem to be any outrage over this. noooo, just the
great all American game of football...mmm..ill go put on my tinfoil hat
but, to me this seems deliberate....stay tuned (sorry I'm a Belleville high graduate
punctuation, and spelling is not what it should be.... I skipped school the
day this was being taught in English class to attend a peace rally
in the football stadium)
Me too the Belleville Bellboys of the Richie Luzzi Joe Latore years...I'm 65 now...I really miss savage D...in the Corps we played NO EQUIPMENT TACKLE for Fun...and thrived on headslaps etc..ok, you can agree, or disagree with my statement. I'm a sixty two yr old former
lover of this game. college , and pro. if any one around my age remembers
the game in the sixties, and seventies ,when men, were men, and the game of
football was not some sort of a social experiment politics,and social
causes would never be associated with the game. I mean like pink October...I get it, lets bring
awareness of breast cancer to the general public.. is that the only cancer that needs awareness
its still a mans game, I think. why not prostate cancer...I have realitves who
died of breast cancer. I get it...I cant watch in October. I try and avoid the
n.f.l in my birth month.....then there's the sacred don't harm the qb.
cant hit him high, cant hit him low.really, this is foot friiggin ball. I'm sure
joe Namath, and johnny U.would have loved, the force field the league
has installed to protect the so called franchise player. again johnny, and joe
would find it quite amusing..and now the famous concussion proticall
me being the heartless bastard I am, have no feeling's for the player.. BULL!
you sign a contract to make millions of bucks to play a violent game
if you want to keep your brains in your head get a job in the real world
you have a college education. sorry for my rant, but, this is .were the game is
headed it will be totally unwatchable in the next decade....I was watching
the MMA by accident, as I was channel flipping. Rhonda rousey was getting
the livin tar knocked out of her, and she wasn't wearing a specially designed
helmet to protect her face, and her brain....what a hypocritical world we
live in. there doesn't seem to be any outrage over this. noooo, just the
great all American game of football...mmm..ill go put on my tinfoil hat
but, to me this seems deliberate....stay tuned (sorry I'm a Belleville high graduate
punctuation, and spelling is not what it should be.... I skipped school the
day this was being taught in English class to attend a peace rally
in the football stadium)
I hate Trump but like you're thoughts...Lake or Valley section?I see I struck a nerve with my insensitivity to the pussification of the nfl
please.....what about rugby, and aussie football. no helmets, no padding
I'm assuming the negative response's are quite progressive in thought,
and deed,,,,,,and if it makes you happy ill post a new avatar that will
make you all jump for joy..... yahoo
I'm glad you don't post here often. What an IDIOTIC POST. I'm a little younger than you are and I remember the great Jim Otto from the Raiders. The man had about 15 surgeries on his knees. I remember the great Jack Lambert. Dead before he's sixty. Junio Seau-- suicide. I can go on and on and on. The game has evolved because of new and better ways to protect the athletes. It's not "feminizing" the sport. It's learning from the past where "men" have early dementia, brain damage and depression leading to suicide. So if you don't watch the sport because you want to go back to the cave man days, then don't freakin' watch. And oh btw, your avatar shows you're more stupid than your moronic post! Now there's a feminine man to emulate.ok, you can agree, or disagree with my statement. I'm a sixty two yr old former
lover of this game. college , and pro. if any one around my age remembers
the game in the sixties, and seventies ,when men, were men, and the game of
football was not some sort of a social experiment politics,and social
causes would never be associated with the game. I mean like pink October...I get it, lets bring
awareness of breast cancer to the general public.. is that the only cancer that needs awareness
its still a mans game, I think. why not prostate cancer...I have realitves who
died of breast cancer. I get it...I cant watch in October. I try and avoid the
n.f.l in my birth month.....then there's the sacred don't harm the qb.
cant hit him high, cant hit him low.really, this is foot friiggin ball. I'm sure
joe Namath, and johnny U.would have loved, the force field the league
has installed to protect the so called franchise player. again johnny, and joe
would find it quite amusing..and now the famous concussion proticall
me being the heartless bastard I am, have no feeling's for the player.. BULL!
you sign a contract to make millions of bucks to play a violent game
if you want to keep your brains in your head get a job in the real world
you have a college education. sorry for my rant, but, this is .were the game is
headed it will be totally unwatchable in the next decade....I was watching
the MMA by accident, as I was channel flipping. Rhonda rousey was getting
the livin tar knocked out of her, and she wasn't wearing a specially designed
helmet to protect her face, and her brain....what a hypocritical world we
live in. there doesn't seem to be any outrage over this. noooo, just the
great all American game of football...mmm..ill go put on my tinfoil hat
but, to me this seems deliberate....stay tuned (sorry I'm a Belleville high graduate
punctuation, and spelling is not what it should be.... I skipped school the
day this was being taught in English class to attend a peace rally
in the football stadium)
I think we've just gotten way to feminized in football somehow?? The violence is our Roman Coliseum and why we love it...who cares about 2 hand touch? Big possible consequences...big pay ...simple as that..Have got to figure out how to reduce the effects of hits to the head. No two ways about this. OP is just silly.
He may be a little over the top but I agree with the gist of what he's saying...football will eventually be phased out as will the American man by political correctness...next well be hiring hessians to go to war for us...I'm glad you don't post here often. What an IDIOTIC POST. I'm a little younger than you are and I remember the great Jim Otto from the Raiders. The man had about 15 surgeries on his knees. I remember the great Jack Lambert. Dead before he's sixty. Junio Seau-- suicide. I can go on and on and on. The game has evolved because of new and better ways to protect the athletes. It's not "feminizing" the sport. It's learning from the past where "men" have early dementia, brain damage and depression leading to suicide. So if you don't watch the sport because you want to go back to the cave man days, then don't freakin' watch. And oh btw, you avatar shows you're more stupid than your moronic post!
I think we've just gotten way to feminized in football somehow?? The violence is our Roman Coliseum and why we love it...who cares about 2 hand touch? Big possible consequences...big pay ...simple as that..
Really? The game is still violent. If you don't like the way the game is played today then don't watch it. I watched it when Jack Tatum paralyzed a player in freakin' preseason. It's one thing to have a violent game. It's another to not evolve from it. Political Correctness? COME ON MAN!He may be a little over the top but I agree with the gist of what he's saying...football will eventually be phased out as will the American man by political correctness...next well be hiring hessians to go to war for us...
I may be the only person posting here who actually wore a leather helmet (in 8th grade), unless Beaced played the game. Also played single wing football until it was phased out.He may be a little over the top but I agree with the gist of what he's saying...football will eventually be phased out as will the American man by political correctness...next well be hiring hessians to go to war for us...
Don't know how someone in the shape you described would even know where he is???I'm sure that anyone who really played football and retired to crippling arthritis, chronic migraines, severely limited function and depression to the point of suicide would happily take you behind the gym and straighten your @$$ out.
I wore a leather helmet as well. Last class to be issued one.I may be the only person posting here who actually wore a leather helmet (in 8th grade), unless Beaced played the game. Also played single wing football until it was phased out.
I gave up playing in 1968 after having started for the Princeton freshman team. Would have played in the 100th anniversary game against RU had I not decided to pursue other paths. One reason was headaches after games. I often regretted having given up the game, not playing in the 100th anniversary game, etc., but not too long ago I was struck by the fact that my knees still work, the pinched nerve in my neck doesn't act up too often, and my ankles only give out when it's going to rain. I like to think that I can still think. Probably for the best.
The real challenge for football at all levels is how to get head trauma out of the game. And that's a tough nut to crack. Same thing for rugby as the problem is severe there as well.
If I'm going too fast and I'm not wearing a seatbelt some of it might be my fault, sure.So if you get in an automobile accident because of faulty car design or poor highway design, it was your choice to drive that car or ride that highway.
You mean the thought of banging your head against another guy's head for an extended period of time (for some this could be decades) while wearing some leather or plastic was not considered risky?A lot of the risks weren't known then.
How old are you? Seems to me that you either have to be too young to have worn a leather helmet, or too old to be running into burning buildings, but not both!I wore a leather helmet as well. Last class to be issued one.
I know a little something about risk too. It's a choice I make every time I go to work. I could do something else if I wanted. But like smoking I don't need the Surgeon Generals warning to tell me there are dangers and consequences of what I do to earn a living.
As John Madden said many years ago...it's not a contact sport it's a collision one. How that it could not have lasting repercussions (mentally, physically and psychologically) over time is one that I have a hard time with people who are surprised with what happens to those who play football for such a long time.
Where did you play football? Rwanda?I wore a leather helmet as well. Last class to be issued one.
I know a little something about risk too. It's a choice I make every time I go to work. I could do something else if I wanted. But like smoking I don't need the Surgeon Generals warning to tell me there are dangers and consequences of what I do to earn a living.
As John Madden said many years ago...it's not a contact sport it's a collision one. How that it could not have lasting repercussions (mentally, physically and psychologically) over time is one that I have a hard time with people who are surprised with what happens to those who play football for such a long time.
Different type helmet. But same material.How old are you? Seems to me that you either have to be too young to have worn a leather helmet, or too old to be running into burning buildings, but not both!
I haven't heard East New York called that in years. ;)Where did you play football? Rwanda?
I wore a leather helmet as well. Last class to be issued one.
I know a little something about risk too. It's a choice I make every time I go to work. I could do something else if I wanted. But like smoking I don't need the Surgeon Generals warning to tell me there are dangers and consequences of what I do to earn a living.
As John Madden said many years ago...it's not a contact sport it's a collision one. How that it could not have lasting repercussions (mentally, physically and psychologically) over time is one that I have a hard time with people who are surprised with what happens to those who play football for such a long time.
I wore a leather helmet as well. Last class to be issued one.
I know a little something about risk too. It's a choice I make every time I go to work. I could do something else if I wanted. But like smoking I don't need the Surgeon Generals warning to tell me there are dangers and consequences of what I do to earn a living.
As John Madden said many years ago...it's not a contact sport it's a collision one. How that it could not have lasting repercussions (mentally, physically and psychologically) over time is one that I have a hard time with people who are surprised with what happens to those who play football for such a long time.
Yeah, like this is credible. Let's see what Namath would say if he was unknown and poor.FWIW, if Namath had the chance to do it over again he has said he would not play football.
http://www.namathneurocenter.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=news.details&ArticleId=3&returnTo=main
And it did with football too.Do you show up in a horse drawn wagon? Use hand pumps? search buildings without supplemental oxygen? use protective gear from the 50s? and I could go on and on.While there is inherent risk, as a society we expect the conditions and equipment associated with fire fighting to improve over time.
While you might not need the Surgeon General's warning that running into burning buildings is inherently dangerous, you do deserve the SG's report on the risks associated with the job that aren't exactly obvious. Furthermore, if the SG purposely withheld those risks from you, in order to preserve profit streams, I suspect you'd be rightfully pissed.
Anyone who enlists in the military accepts risk. That doesn't mean that the tanker should unknowingly sit next to crates of radioactive ammunition in the course of doing his job. The expectation should be the mitigation of that risk--either through protective equipment, process improvement * or elimination of the ammunition if mitigation isn't possible.
LawProf How were your nuptials ?
I see I struck a nerve with my insensitivity to the pussification of the nfl
please.....what about rugby, and aussie football. no helmets, no padding
I'm assuming the negative response's are quite progressive in thought,
and deed,,,,,,and if it makes you happy ill post a new avatar that will
make you all jump for joy..... yahoo