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IM SICK AND TIRED OF THE FEMINZATION OF FOOTBALL

Not absolving the NFL of anything but it was their choice to play.
So if you get in an automobile accident because of faulty car design or poor highway design, it was your choice to drive that car or ride that highway.
 
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I'm sick of the CONSTANT over the top celebrating and video reviews.
C'mon man. Celebrations are mild compared to a generation ago. Remember the Mark Gastineau sack dance? The Redskins Fun Bunch? The Ickey Shuffle? Elmo Wright, who started it all in nineteen seventy-freakin'-one? I could go on, but you get the idea.

Video reviews are NOT constant, at least not in the NFL where coach's challenges are limited.
 
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A lot of the risks weren't known then.

- not only that - but in a lot of instances things that were known were not shared - on a macro & micro level
- General risks were known but denied and withheld
- individual players were misled about their conditions ( the good days when players were only allowed to see the team doc - and were only told details that the team wished to tell them ) and the degree of jeopardy that they were risking.
 
I see I struck a nerve with my insensitivity to the pussification of the nfl
please.....what about rugby, and aussie football. no helmets, no padding
I'm assuming the negative response's are quite progressive in thought,
and deed,,,,,,and if it makes you happy ill post a new avatar that will
make you all jump for joy..... yahoo
 
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ok, you can agree, or disagree with my statement. I'm a sixty two yr old former
lover of this game. college , and pro. if any one around my age remembers
the game in the sixties, and seventies ,when men, were men, and the game of
football was not some sort of a social experiment politics,and social
causes would never be associated with the game. I mean like pink October...I get it, lets bring
awareness of breast cancer to the general public.. is that the only cancer that needs awareness
its still a mans game, I think. why not prostate cancer...I have realitves who
died of breast cancer. I get it...I cant watch in October. I try and avoid the
n.f.l in my birth month.....then there's the sacred don't harm the qb.
cant hit him high, cant hit him low.really, this is foot friiggin ball. I'm sure
joe Namath, and johnny U.would have loved, the force field the league
has installed to protect the so called franchise player. again johnny, and joe
would find it quite amusing..and now the famous concussion proticall
me being the heartless bastard I am, have no feeling's for the player.. BULL!
you sign a contract to make millions of bucks to play a violent game
if you want to keep your brains in your head get a job in the real world
you have a college education. sorry for my rant, but, this is .were the game is
headed it will be totally unwatchable in the next decade....I was watching
the MMA by accident, as I was channel flipping. Rhonda rousey was getting
the livin tar knocked out of her, and she wasn't wearing a specially designed
helmet to protect her face, and her brain....what a hypocritical world we
live in. there doesn't seem to be any outrage over this. noooo, just the
great all American game of football...mmm..ill go put on my tinfoil hat
but, to me this seems deliberate....stay tuned (sorry I'm a Belleville high graduate
punctuation, and spelling is not what it should be.... I skipped school the
day this was being taught in English class to attend a peace rally
in the football stadium)
Completely AGREE...after JoeTheismans cracked knee was heard by millions they still played football...I'm disgusted with what's become of the greatest mans game outside boxing and whered the Heavyweight gone?? Damn spell Check..
 
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ok, you can agree, or disagree with my statement. I'm a sixty two yr old former
lover of this game. college , and pro. if any one around my age remembers
the game in the sixties, and seventies ,when men, were men, and the game of
football was not some sort of a social experiment politics,and social
causes would never be associated with the game. I mean like pink October...I get it, lets bring
awareness of breast cancer to the general public.. is that the only cancer that needs awareness
its still a mans game, I think. why not prostate cancer...I have realitves who
died of breast cancer. I get it...I cant watch in October. I try and avoid the
n.f.l in my birth month.....then there's the sacred don't harm the qb.
cant hit him high, cant hit him low.really, this is foot friiggin ball. I'm sure
joe Namath, and johnny U.would have loved, the force field the league
has installed to protect the so called franchise player. again johnny, and joe
would find it quite amusing..and now the famous concussion proticall
me being the heartless bastard I am, have no feeling's for the player.. BULL!
you sign a contract to make millions of bucks to play a violent game
if you want to keep your brains in your head get a job in the real world
you have a college education. sorry for my rant, but, this is .were the game is
headed it will be totally unwatchable in the next decade....I was watching
the MMA by accident, as I was channel flipping. Rhonda rousey was getting
the livin tar knocked out of her, and she wasn't wearing a specially designed
helmet to protect her face, and her brain....what a hypocritical world we
live in. there doesn't seem to be any outrage over this. noooo, just the
great all American game of football...mmm..ill go put on my tinfoil hat
but, to me this seems deliberate....stay tuned (sorry I'm a Belleville high graduate
punctuation, and spelling is not what it should be.... I skipped school the
day this was being taught in English class to attend a peace rally
in the football stadium)
Me too the Belleville Bellboys of the Richie Luzzi Joe Latore years...I'm 65 now...I really miss savage D...in the Corps we played NO EQUIPMENT TACKLE for Fun...and thrived on headslaps etc..
 
I see I struck a nerve with my insensitivity to the pussification of the nfl
please.....what about rugby, and aussie football. no helmets, no padding
I'm assuming the negative response's are quite progressive in thought,
and deed,,,,,,and if it makes you happy ill post a new avatar that will
make you all jump for joy..... yahoo
I hate Trump but like you're thoughts...Lake or Valley section?
 
ok, you can agree, or disagree with my statement. I'm a sixty two yr old former
lover of this game. college , and pro. if any one around my age remembers
the game in the sixties, and seventies ,when men, were men, and the game of
football was not some sort of a social experiment politics,and social
causes would never be associated with the game. I mean like pink October...I get it, lets bring
awareness of breast cancer to the general public.. is that the only cancer that needs awareness
its still a mans game, I think. why not prostate cancer...I have realitves who
died of breast cancer. I get it...I cant watch in October. I try and avoid the
n.f.l in my birth month.....then there's the sacred don't harm the qb.
cant hit him high, cant hit him low.really, this is foot friiggin ball. I'm sure
joe Namath, and johnny U.would have loved, the force field the league
has installed to protect the so called franchise player. again johnny, and joe
would find it quite amusing..and now the famous concussion proticall
me being the heartless bastard I am, have no feeling's for the player.. BULL!
you sign a contract to make millions of bucks to play a violent game
if you want to keep your brains in your head get a job in the real world
you have a college education. sorry for my rant, but, this is .were the game is
headed it will be totally unwatchable in the next decade....I was watching
the MMA by accident, as I was channel flipping. Rhonda rousey was getting
the livin tar knocked out of her, and she wasn't wearing a specially designed
helmet to protect her face, and her brain....what a hypocritical world we
live in. there doesn't seem to be any outrage over this. noooo, just the
great all American game of football...mmm..ill go put on my tinfoil hat
but, to me this seems deliberate....stay tuned (sorry I'm a Belleville high graduate
punctuation, and spelling is not what it should be.... I skipped school the
day this was being taught in English class to attend a peace rally
in the football stadium)
I'm glad you don't post here often. What an IDIOTIC POST. I'm a little younger than you are and I remember the great Jim Otto from the Raiders. The man had about 15 surgeries on his knees. I remember the great Jack Lambert. Dead before he's sixty. Junio Seau-- suicide. I can go on and on and on. The game has evolved because of new and better ways to protect the athletes. It's not "feminizing" the sport. It's learning from the past where "men" have early dementia, brain damage and depression leading to suicide. So if you don't watch the sport because you want to go back to the cave man days, then don't freakin' watch. And oh btw, your avatar shows you're more stupid than your moronic post! Now there's a feminine man to emulate.
 
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Have got to figure out how to reduce the effects of hits to the head. No two ways about this. OP is just silly.
I think we've just gotten way to feminized in football somehow?? The violence is our Roman Coliseum and why we love it...who cares about 2 hand touch? Big possible consequences...big pay ...simple as that..
 
I'm glad you don't post here often. What an IDIOTIC POST. I'm a little younger than you are and I remember the great Jim Otto from the Raiders. The man had about 15 surgeries on his knees. I remember the great Jack Lambert. Dead before he's sixty. Junio Seau-- suicide. I can go on and on and on. The game has evolved because of new and better ways to protect the athletes. It's not "feminizing" the sport. It's learning from the past where "men" have early dementia, brain damage and depression leading to suicide. So if you don't watch the sport because you want to go back to the cave man days, then don't freakin' watch. And oh btw, you avatar shows you're more stupid than your moronic post!
He may be a little over the top but I agree with the gist of what he's saying...football will eventually be phased out as will the American man by political correctness...next well be hiring hessians to go to war for us...
 
I think we've just gotten way to feminized in football somehow?? The violence is our Roman Coliseum and why we love it...who cares about 2 hand touch? Big possible consequences...big pay ...simple as that..
He may be a little over the top but I agree with the gist of what he's saying...football will eventually be phased out as will the American man by political correctness...next well be hiring hessians to go to war for us...
Really? The game is still violent. If you don't like the way the game is played today then don't watch it. I watched it when Jack Tatum paralyzed a player in freakin' preseason. It's one thing to have a violent game. It's another to not evolve from it. Political Correctness? COME ON MAN!
 
That's why Lacrosse is being focused on for the future BTN contracts...were in the last yrs of recognizable football that were willing to pay to watch...try hopscotch and let's see who pays..
 
He may be a little over the top but I agree with the gist of what he's saying...football will eventually be phased out as will the American man by political correctness...next well be hiring hessians to go to war for us...
I may be the only person posting here who actually wore a leather helmet (in 8th grade), unless Beaced played the game. Also played single wing football until it was phased out.

I gave up playing in 1968 after having started for the Princeton freshman team. Would have played in the 100th anniversary game against RU had I not decided to pursue other paths. One reason was headaches after games. I often regretted having given up the game, not playing in the 100th anniversary game, etc., but not too long ago I was struck by the fact that my knees still work, the pinched nerve in my neck doesn't act up too often, and my ankles only give out when it's going to rain. I like to think that I can still think. Probably for the best.

The real challenge for football at all levels is how to get head trauma out of the game. And that's a tough nut to crack. Same thing for rugby as the problem is severe there as well.
 
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I'm sure that anyone who really played football and retired to crippling arthritis, chronic migraines, severely limited function and depression to the point of suicide would happily take you behind the gym and straighten your @$$ out.
Don't know how someone in the shape you described would even know where he is???
 
If Lombardi was their coach, when they got back from
Florida they would have tickets to new cities, no longer
Packers.. Let's stop the crap this is a 3 ring circus, except
the Florida incident, that was a 4 ring circus.
 
I may be the only person posting here who actually wore a leather helmet (in 8th grade), unless Beaced played the game. Also played single wing football until it was phased out.

I gave up playing in 1968 after having started for the Princeton freshman team. Would have played in the 100th anniversary game against RU had I not decided to pursue other paths. One reason was headaches after games. I often regretted having given up the game, not playing in the 100th anniversary game, etc., but not too long ago I was struck by the fact that my knees still work, the pinched nerve in my neck doesn't act up too often, and my ankles only give out when it's going to rain. I like to think that I can still think. Probably for the best.

The real challenge for football at all levels is how to get head trauma out of the game. And that's a tough nut to crack. Same thing for rugby as the problem is severe there as well.
I wore a leather helmet as well. Last class to be issued one.

I know a little something about risk too. It's a choice I make every time I go to work. I could do something else if I wanted. But like smoking I don't need the Surgeon Generals warning to tell me there are dangers and consequences of what I do to earn a living.

As John Madden said many years ago...it's not a contact sport it's a collision one. How that it could not have lasting repercussions (mentally, physically and psychologically) over time is one that I have a hard time with people who are surprised with what happens to those who play football for such a long time.
 
So if you get in an automobile accident because of faulty car design or poor highway design, it was your choice to drive that car or ride that highway.
If I'm going too fast and I'm not wearing a seatbelt some of it might be my fault, sure.

I could have also taken the bus or maybe a different route too.
 
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I wore a leather helmet as well. Last class to be issued one.

I know a little something about risk too. It's a choice I make every time I go to work. I could do something else if I wanted. But like smoking I don't need the Surgeon Generals warning to tell me there are dangers and consequences of what I do to earn a living.

As John Madden said many years ago...it's not a contact sport it's a collision one. How that it could not have lasting repercussions (mentally, physically and psychologically) over time is one that I have a hard time with people who are surprised with what happens to those who play football for such a long time.
How old are you? Seems to me that you either have to be too young to have worn a leather helmet, or too old to be running into burning buildings, but not both!
 
I wore a leather helmet as well. Last class to be issued one.

I know a little something about risk too. It's a choice I make every time I go to work. I could do something else if I wanted. But like smoking I don't need the Surgeon Generals warning to tell me there are dangers and consequences of what I do to earn a living.

As John Madden said many years ago...it's not a contact sport it's a collision one. How that it could not have lasting repercussions (mentally, physically and psychologically) over time is one that I have a hard time with people who are surprised with what happens to those who play football for such a long time.
Where did you play football? Rwanda?
 
How old are you? Seems to me that you either have to be too young to have worn a leather helmet, or too old to be running into burning buildings, but not both!
Different type helmet. But same material.
 
Where did you play football? Rwanda?
I haven't heard East New York called that in years. ;)

When I was there (pre-9/11) the firehouse I worked in was the only thing standing on a whole NYC block. Imagine a firehouse on the Moon...that's what it looked like. Rubble everywhere. Razor wire surrounding the parking lot and the crackheads would grease the poles of the fence to get in and break into our cars.
 
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Damn was hoping it was his daughter, we could all objectify her, say dirty things about his daughter. Being a man's man, he would understand, join the whitty repertoire, while lighting up a camel on the back porch of his house sided in asbestos shingles.

The point is people have learned the dangers of numerous things, in some cases we are free to make our own choices, in others they are regulated. If one equates this to feminizing, then its time to come out the stone age for that person. Its that simple.

Anyone remeber when their science teacher used to have a small battle of mercury and play with on the front lab table while teaching. Today, you would need to hazmat out if this were done.

Nothing femist about it....common sense.
 
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I wore a leather helmet as well. Last class to be issued one.

I know a little something about risk too. It's a choice I make every time I go to work. I could do something else if I wanted. But like smoking I don't need the Surgeon Generals warning to tell me there are dangers and consequences of what I do to earn a living.

As John Madden said many years ago...it's not a contact sport it's a collision one. How that it could not have lasting repercussions (mentally, physically and psychologically) over time is one that I have a hard time with people who are surprised with what happens to those who play football for such a long time.

Well it sure is easy to tell the guys here who wore leather helmets.
 
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I wore a leather helmet as well. Last class to be issued one.

I know a little something about risk too. It's a choice I make every time I go to work. I could do something else if I wanted. But like smoking I don't need the Surgeon Generals warning to tell me there are dangers and consequences of what I do to earn a living.

As John Madden said many years ago...it's not a contact sport it's a collision one. How that it could not have lasting repercussions (mentally, physically and psychologically) over time is one that I have a hard time with people who are surprised with what happens to those who play football for such a long time.

Do you show up in a horse drawn wagon? Use hand pumps? search buildings without supplemental oxygen? use protective gear from the 50s? and I could go on and on.While there is inherent risk, as a society we expect the conditions and equipment associated with fire fighting to improve over time.

While you might not need the Surgeon General's warning that running into burning buildings is inherently dangerous, you do deserve the SG's report on the risks associated with the job that aren't exactly obvious. Furthermore, if the SG purposely withheld those risks from you, in order to preserve profit streams, I suspect you'd be rightfully pissed.

Anyone who enlists in the military accepts risk. That doesn't mean that the tanker should unknowingly sit next to crates of radioactive ammunition in the course of doing his job. The expectation should be the mitigation of that risk--either through protective equipment, process improvement or elimination of the ammunition if mitigation isn't possible.
 
Do you show up in a horse drawn wagon? Use hand pumps? search buildings without supplemental oxygen? use protective gear from the 50s? and I could go on and on.While there is inherent risk, as a society we expect the conditions and equipment associated with fire fighting to improve over time.

While you might not need the Surgeon General's warning that running into burning buildings is inherently dangerous, you do deserve the SG's report on the risks associated with the job that aren't exactly obvious. Furthermore, if the SG purposely withheld those risks from you, in order to preserve profit streams, I suspect you'd be rightfully pissed.

Anyone who enlists in the military accepts risk. That doesn't mean that the tanker should unknowingly sit next to crates of radioactive ammunition in the course of doing his job. The expectation should be the mitigation of that risk--either through protective equipment, process improvement * or elimination of the ammunition if mitigation isn't possible.
And it did with football too.

But as the stuff improves the guys have gotten bigger and faster wearing it. Maybe it's not keeping up?

As to what's obvious I think I mentioned that earlier....how could you not think banging your head against another guys head for YEARS might not cause you to have some problems down the road?

And as I also mentioned previously...I'm am not absolving the NFL of anything here...If they lied they pay (which I think is happening now, yes?), but to think as a player you might not have to deal with "stuff" down the road because there wasn't' a sticker on her helmet is well...

* What if after all the mitigation and after repeated testing it's proven NO helmet will protect you from suffering the after effects of repeated collision/concussions? Do we change talking rules or eliminate it all together just to be safe?
 
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I personally think football has evolved with respect to player safety. It is listening to the medical community and honestly, rightfully so. Too many former players getting around with walkers or wheelchairs, some sadly being fed by family members and drinking out of sippy cups. I made my son quit playing as a freshman in HS and he was a starting QB in pop-warner, 8th grade and 9th grade. He came home one day and was complaining of a bad headache after a blindside hit. He put up a little fight when I suggested he quit, but after a conversation with his mom he finally agreed.
 
LawProf How were your nuptials ?

Wonderful! We did a tiny ceremony -- my sister and her husband, my bride's sister and her boyfriend, the judge and his wife -- and went to lunch. Later, my wife and I (it seems odd to say "my wife" but it's true) had dinner in Philadelphia. I don't think we could have done something larger without going crazy. Thanks for asking!
 
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I see I struck a nerve with my insensitivity to the pussification of the nfl
please.....what about rugby, and aussie football. no helmets, no padding
I'm assuming the negative response's are quite progressive in thought,
and deed,,,,,,and if it makes you happy ill post a new avatar that will
make you all jump for joy..... yahoo

The lack of helmets and padding actually makes rugby, at least, safer than football. If you don't have a helmet, you can't use it as a weapon.
 
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