They've played Southern Illinois, Florida International, Western Kentucky, and Wake Forest, and are giving up 499 yards per game.
Go ahead and read that again a few times.
Go ahead and read that again a few times.
Indiana is 4-0
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FYI - we're giving up over 6 ypp and that includes 1-3 FCS and the worst P5 team in the nation (probably one of 5 worst FBS)..
Norfolk was 3.8 ( RU 8.7) , PSU was 7.8 ( RU -4.0) and KU was 5.5 (RU-6.2)
RU's D needs to do better , in my opinion and both O & D statistics should leave out the Norfolk game which leaves 6.65 ypp for the opposition, compared to RU's 5.1.
I see the same losers have maintained their loser mentality. Nice.
Indiana is winnable. If we play like we did vs PSU it's a toss up. If we play like we did the other games we should win. If our young guys step up and we limit mistakes we will win.
Indiana is winnable. If we play like we did vs PSU it's a toss up. If we play like we did the other games we should win. If our young guys step up and we limit mistakes we will win.
I agree: it is a "winnable" game, no doubt, BUT....How is it a "toss up" if we play like we did against PSU? Elaborate My Lord we score 3 POINTS against them! San Diego State, who was 1-2 entering the game, scored 21 on their D! IU will likely be a TD favorite, at home, when we get together. They're 18th nationally in Total O, at 522 ypg, and scoring 38.3/game. How are EARTH are you calling this a "tossup" if we play like we did against Penn State?
FYI Per Sagarin:
Rutgers 90th (147th most difficult schedule)
Indiana 72nd (99th most difficult schedule)
We will know more after Saturday.
Their offense has looked potent, but we have the 4th ranked defense in the country. They play defense like they are abig 12 team from Texas.
Their offense has looked potent, but we have the 4th ranked defense in the country. They play defense like they are abig 12 team from Texas.
Our schedule is a lot easier next year in conference. Our crossover games are Iowa, Minnesota, and Illinois.
On the other hand Washington will be much tougher than Wazzu.
Disagree with "a lot easier." While Illinois is a pushover, Iowa and Minny aren't, and we will be underdogs in both, then throw in the fact that we don't get Army, and we get Washington instead of Wazzou, and next year's slate - I'd bet - ends up with an SOS possible quite a bit higher than this year's.
Sagarin has IU as an 8 point fave @ home right now. Not a toss up, but I guess somewhat winnable. Although Massey composite is more impressed with the Hoosiers than Sagarin.
It's bad enough to be TD+ dog to Indiana, but we are ranked 90th in Sagarin after the softest portion of the sched, which is the saddest part. Massey composite also has us 90th.
Both of these numbers fly in the face of those that say we are not one of the worst P5 schools in the country right now. We are not the worst, but we are most assuredly living in that neighborhood. These are nearing Shea-like rankings (in a 'good' Shea year to be fair lol).
It's bad enough to be TD+ dog to Indiana, but we are ranked 90th in Sagarin after the softest portion of the sched, which is the saddest part. Massey composite also has us 90th.
Both of these numbers fly in the face of those that say we are not one of the worst P5 schools in the country right now. We are not the worst, but we are most assuredly living in that neighborhood. These are nearing Shea-like rankings (in a 'good' Shea year to be fair lol).
Agree. Nebraska will be our upside surprise day, unfortunately after some tough losses. $$$$
Iowa is playing a lot of young guys this year. They will be back to competing for the West next year.
Minny is just as good or better than Wisky and Nebraska.
Illinois is improving under Bill Cubit - we'll see what happens with them but if we played them today we'd be underdogs.
Next year, Michigan will be closer to Ohio State's level than to us.
PSU will be even tougher with Barkley and one year seasoning of they're 2014 excellent class.
Indiana's offense is the real deal - we beat them last year with them playing their third string QB. Rutgers fans will find out soon enough that we are not on their level. They are a middle of the pack B1G team.
MSU and Ohio State? As they say in Jersey - Fahgettabouttit.
Maryland, if they continue imploding, we can certainly beat. But still it's not guaranteed, since we're imploding ourselves.
So, basically Howard is your sure win. Toss up with Mary and Illinois makes it three.
Of course this is all speculation and a million things could happen between now and then. Who knows, the coaching staff might finally wise-up and plays Rettig and we discover he's the second coming of Dan Marino. Our other players could improve leaps and bounds next year - maybe Grant is in the heissman convo. Maybe Carroo gets a fifth year hardship, along with Hamilton, etc etc. Then again what are the odds of these things happening?
If I am being honest, based on evaluating talent and based on trajectory of the program, I see us having a tougher year next year than this year. And for those who will call me a negative nancy - last year, I predicted 10 wins.
"VERY winnable"? Geeze...How about we go with "IF everything goes perfect, and The Huskers come out flat, this is a WINNABLE game but still an upset"??
Iowa started out 5-1 in 20124, finished 7-6
4-0 now with OOC wins against Illinois St, Iowa St , Pittsburgh and North Texas St
It is an upset if the team that is 2 point underdogs wins the game. Not a big one, but an upset.
I think you go too far to say we need to play a PERFECT game against a Huskers opponent playing a BAD game to have a CHANCE to win the game.
What % chance of winning a game qualifies as winnable? 10%? 25%? 33%? Surely not 50%, as that would be called a toss-up, not a winnable game. I found a Phil Steele article from July 2014 that breaks down the history of this. Using the 2009-2013 seasons only, here are the odds of underdogs winning outright:
Spread > 31.5 pts: 0.53% chance of winning outright.
Spread between 24.5 and 31.5: 4.13% chance
Spread 17.5 to 24: 5.3%
Spread 14.5 to 17: 11.68%
Spread 10.5 - 14: 20.55%
Spread 7.5 - 10: 24.64%
Spread 3.5 - 7: 36.66%
Spread under 3 pts: 43.41%
So what constitutes winnable? I would say that above 17 it is a stretch to call a game winnable. Above 14 is debatable. Below that, I am okay with calling it winnable.
That's awesome!
Listen, the Huskers haven't played great, BUT their 2 losses have come on a hail mary and in a 3-point game, despite being down, what, 21-0 in the 1st quarter to Miami? There's a reason they are 44th in Sagarin and we're 90th, which is why I made the call above. Yeah Baby called it a "very winnable" game and, based on your chart, that's a straight-up joke because they'll be 17-20 point favorite by the time we meet, wouldn't you agree? I would say my comments above, in parentheses, would be a fair assessment, no?
A "very winnable game" - his words, not mine - would be one that you're FAVORED and not the opposite, agree? So maybe my assessment of "perfect" and "bad" is a tad extreme, but, not far off AND only in response to Yeah Baby's post.
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Well it looks like when some feel a game might be winnable, others chime in with it's a loseable game
I feel every game is winnable, some more than others and some of those winnable games ( need big upset to win) are more loseable then winnable because on paper and what RU has shown on the field makes RU a big underdog and chances of winning are mighty slim ( but even a mighty slim chance is better than just expecting defeat and accepting there isn't a chance of victory).
I'll try to stay positive and look for hope ( where there is none) while admitting the doom and gloomers are making good points.about the program .
I feel every game is winnable, some more than others and some of those winnable games ( need big upset to win) are more loseable then winnable because on paper and what RU has shown on the field makes RU a big underdog and chances of winning are mighty slim ( but even a mighty slim chance is better than just expecting defeat and accepting there isn't a chance of victory).
I'll try to stay positive and look for hope ( where there is none) while admitting the doom and gloomers are making good points.about the program .
Well it looks like when some feel a game might be winnable, others chime in with it's a loseable game
I feel every game is winnable, some more than others and some of those winnable games ( need big upset to win) are more loseable then winnable because on paper and what RU has shown on the field makes RU a big underdog and chances of winning are mighty slim ( but even a mighty slim chance is better than just expecting defeat and accepting there isn't a chance of victory).
I'll try to stay positive and look for hope ( where there is none) while admitting the doom and gloomers are making good points.about the program .
lol - he called it a "VERY winnable game," hence my issue, if he had simply said "winnable" the conversation would have been a tad different, I promise! [thumb2][thumb2]
Nebraska is not a very winnable game. Its not a tossup either. Its a game RU as a fair shot at winning but will be pretty good underdogs. Nebby has lost to two teams that would wipe the floor with Rutgers and played them competitively. Personally, There was nothing in our 3 point performance vs a bad PSU or are pourous defense vs WSU not being able to defend home turf for 90 seconds that leads me to believe that we can win this game
Ummmm....Duh. I have seen every game and was personally in attendance for 3 of them.
Iowa has the best football team in the West, in my opinion. They are lightyears better than last year's team.
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Sorry thought your handle was TheB1GTerd ... Then TheB1GTenTwerp ... Maybe RU are the terds and MD the Twerps
Things are not looking good for RU right now. Michigan and Indiana are vastly improved. Last season was an aberration. Even though we only won 3 B1G games the consensus was that we were a middling B1G team. We will find out soon that "cheap" isn't an option in this conference.
