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It's officially Mayo Bowl Monday‼️

Anything is better than the 1st week in January unless it’s the CFB Playoffs.
And Phoenix is warm unlike Charlotte

There is no comparative issue whatsoever with first week of January in terms of fan travel. If your arguing people went away for the holiday week and won’t want to travel again, well those people wouldn’t have been available on the 26th either. Very few people are going to give up Christmas for the Rate bowl across the country. Some will - but it won’t be a big number. A lot of fans would get in the car or book a last minute flight to Charlotte.
 
There is no comparative issue whatsoever with first week of January in terms of fan travel. If your arguing people went away for the holiday week and won’t want to travel again, well those people wouldn’t have been available on the 26th either. Very few people are going to give up Christmas for the Rate bowl across the country. Some will - but it won’t be a big number. A lot of fans would get in the car or book a last minute flight to Charlotte.
I'm off on the 26th (and the entire week after that). I'm not off on the 3rd. It's really that simple for me.
 
I'm off on the 26th (and the entire week after that). I'm not off on the 3rd. It's really that simple for me.
Bingo.
Fans have vacation time in this Calendar year…not in January.
Charlotte is a disaster for many. MayNo to Mayo.
 
You can fly from Newark on Friday on spirit and return on Saturday or Sunday from Charlotte for $148 RT or $250 on United
Or hop in your car at 8AM and be there around 5PM.
I'm for flying.
 
This is significant. Many are off Xmas week and would have to take time off for Charlotte.

No it’s not significant at all - your really just talking about taking one Friday off - during a 2 day work week (New Years day is Wednesday). Maybe even a half day as it’s only an hour and a half flight away. A cheap flight at that.

Once again - I’m not saying zero fans will go to Arizona, but the point still holds that whether it’s a workday for you or not, very few people are going to drop (or significantly alter) their Christmas plans to spend $1000 on a ticket to Phoenix to watch a glorified exhibition game. The fans who are die hard enough to do this likely wouldn’t hold back on putting in for that Friday either (of the 2 day work week).
 
Look - I should add that there is a small contingency of the fan base who would go no matter where and when the bowl game is. Hats off to them but the reality is - they are not the majority. Not close. With the playoff structure, these lower tier bowls are relegated to even more of an exhibition style than before. That’s why RU nation should be thankful there is a Pin Stripe bowl option every couple years. We aspire to be a family oriented program and a local bowl game at Yankee stadium is helpful in this respect from an image perspective. There were tons of families there to support RU last year. They were easy to spot. Lots of kids in KC red and yellow Pachecho Jerseys. I sure hope the BIG keeps that tie in.

We’re not getting those types of fans anywhere but the Bronx and this year that’s out but I still think we’d get more support at a drivable venue.
 
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Look - I should add that there is a small contingency of the fan base who would go no matter where and when the bowl game is. Hats off to them but the reality is - they are not the majority. Not close. With the playoff structure, these lower tier bowls are relegated to even more of an exhibition style than before. That’s why RU nation should be thankful there is a Pin Stripe bowl option every couple years. We aspire to be a family-oriented program and a local bowl game at Yankee stadium is helpful in this respect from an image perspective. There were tons of families there to support RU last year. They were easy to spot. Lots of kids in KC red and yellow Pacheco Jerseys. I sure hope the BIG keeps that tie in.

We’re not getting those types of fans anywhere but the Bronx and this year that’s out, but I still think we’d get more support at a drivable venue.
At some point that will be passe too.

I went to all three. Two in the Delta with family.

Next time, we'll see. Probably not.
 
At some point that will be passe too.

I went to all three. Two in the Delta with family.

Next time, we'll see. Probably not.

No it won't “pass”. Do you know how many potential family supporters we have in the Tri-State area? There’s no other college football program nearby to support. It’s a local event on a day when not a lot is going on. We’ll always have good attendance that’s relatively overweighted by families (as compared with frat like groups planning road trips to other venues - that’s great too, except the count just isn’t that good when giving Up Christmas is required).

Nobody is saying that’s the only bowl we should ever play in. Let’s do better than 6/6-7-5 and go to a bunch of other cool places on days that don’t require cancellation of Christmas plans. No matter how hard you try to make a case (I know some folks really hate football at Yankee stadium), that bowl tie in is a net positive for us as a program vs. Detroit and Arizona (on 24th / 26th). Unless we’re getting better tie ins to replace all of those.

That’s also why they have the variety clause in the mix. It’d never be an every year thing anyway.
 
No it’s not significant at all - your really just talking about taking one Friday off - during a 2 day work week (New Years day is Wednesday). Maybe even a half day as it’s only an hour and a half flight away. A cheap flight at that.

Once again - I’m not saying zero fans will go to Arizona, but the point still holds that whether it’s a workday for you or not, very few people are going to drop (or significantly alter) their Christmas plans to spend $1000 on a ticket to Phoenix to watch a glorified exhibition game. The fans who are die hard enough to do this likely wouldn’t hold back on putting in for that Friday either (of the 2 day work week).
We travelled very well to many bowl destinations including Phoenix in the past. So your premise is flawed.
 
No it won't “pass”. Do you know how many potential family supporters we have in the Tri-State area? There’s no other college football program nearby to support. It’s a local event on a day when not a lot is going on. We’ll always have good attendance that’s relatively overweighted by families (as compared with frat like groups planning road trips to other venues - that’s great too, except the count just isn’t that good when giving Up Christmas is required).

Nobody is saying that’s the only bowl we should ever play in. Let’s do better than 6/6-7-5 and go to a bunch of other cool places on days that don’t require cancellation of Christmas plans. No matter how hard you try to make a case (I know some folks really hate football at Yankee stadium), that bowl tie in is a net positive for us as a program vs. Detroit and Arizona (on 24th / 26th). Unless we’re getting better tie ins to replace all of those.

That’s also why they have the variety clause in the mix. It’d never be an every year thing anyway.
Who really went besides us and fans of the opponent?

Are you saying there is more of walk up at the Pinstripe because Rutgers is one of the teams playing?
 
No it’s not significant at all - your really just talking about taking one Friday off - during a 2 day work week (New Years day is Wednesday). Maybe even a half day as it’s only an hour and a half flight away. A cheap flight at that.

Once again - I’m not saying zero fans will go to Arizona, but the point still holds that whether it’s a workday for you or not, very few people are going to drop (or significantly alter) their Christmas plans to spend $1000 on a ticket to Phoenix to watch a glorified exhibition game. The fans who are die hard enough to do this likely wouldn’t hold back on putting in for that Friday either (of the 2 day work week).
No.. really most will be need to be taking 2 days off: Thursday and Friday.
 
Can someone explain why the Mayo would want Minny over RU? RU beat them handily and they had a better conf record so that's a push. Wouldn't it be very reasonable to assume RU would bring more fannies into the seats. I don't know about eyeballs on TV.
 
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Can someone explain why the Mayo would want Minny over RU? RU beat them handily and they had a better conf record so that's a push. Wouldn't it be very reasonable to assume RU would bring more fannies into the seats. I don't know about eyeballs on TV.
As someone mentioned they have been consistently bowling for a while now.

Maybe they do travel? I'm not sure as I have no idea.
 
Who really went besides us and fans of the opponent?

Are you saying there is more of walk up at the Pinstripe because Rutgers is one of the teams playing?

In our section there were tons of kids. Not all of them even in Rutgers gear. A lot of them wearing Pacheco jerseys but some in regular clothes. It’s something to do. As long as the weather isn’t awful, people go and take their kids.
 
We travelled very well to many bowl destinations including Phoenix in the past. So your premise is flawed.
Point to a well traveled game played on the 24th or the 26th. The last trip to Phoenix was on the 27th. It’s not remotely the same. One requires skipping Christmas. The other doesn’t at all.

I’m not suggesting Pin Stripe is better than any other game except the ones on those 2 dates.
 
In our section there were tons of kids. Not all of them even in Rutgers gear. A lot of them wearing Pacheco jerseys but some in regular clothes. It’s something to do. As long as the weather isn’t awful, people go and take their kids.
They don’t have to be Rutgers fans to be wearing red.

I bet the one’s wearing Pacheco jerseys had some sort of connection too.

All I’m saying is the extra attendance at the Pinstripe when we play is because of us. I really don’t think the casual fan is going because we’re playing. Or considers us the local team to support.
 
They don’t have to be Rutgers fans to be wearing red.

I bet the one’s wearing Pacheco jerseys had some sort of connection too.

All I’m saying is the extra attendance at the Pinstripe when we play is because of us. I really don’t think the casual fan is going because we’re playing. Or considers us the local team to support.

Yes that’s the point - of course they have a connection to Rutgers. There’s a big difference between die hard fans who follow religiously and those who tune in occasionally when Rutgers is good and root for us because they have friends that went there or simply because they live in NJ and RU is a local football program. The latter group may own a Rutgers shirt or two and possibly go to a game here and there because you can take your kid to a Rutgers game against an Illinois type and get amazing seats for $25 vs what you pay to bring them to Jets or Giants.

It’s those fans who fill seats at the Pin Stripe bowl who would not attend the other bowls. There are a good number of them.
 
I believe what PSAL is saying is that more Rutgers fans, with families, are likely to go to a bowl game at Yankee Stadium if the weather is decent. Minimal travel costs and makes for a fun Rutgers day. My family of 4 and a plus 1 went to Pinstripe. We had a great time. RU bus in was super easy. Billy's was great. Beating Miami was great. Great bowl experience with little cost/effort. If it's the Rate Bowl this year, it will be just me. That's the correlation I believe he's referring to. Lots more Rutgers folks will go to Charlotte than Phoenix. That's not debatable.
 
This...Jan 3rd is a Friday, Can fly out that morning and enjoy the weekends assuming you are off Sat & Sun, vs rushing out on the 26th, and paying an extra $650
Realistically you have to leave on the 25th. Otherwise you risk spending all that money and missing the game entirely. What if your flight is delayed. Things happen.
 
I believe what PSAL is saying is that more Rutgers fans, with families, are likely to go to a bowl game at Yankee Stadium if the weather is decent. Minimal travel costs and makes for a fun Rutgers day. My family of 4 and a plus 1 went to Pinstripe. We had a great time. RU bus in was super easy. Billy's was great. Beating Miami was great. Great bowl experience with little cost/effort. If it's the Rate Bowl this year, it will be just me. That's the correlation I believe he's referring to. Lots more Rutgers folks will go to Charlotte than Phoenix. That's not debatable.
Yes - including extremely casual “fans” who will tune in when they happen to be home. Not only the ones on this forum who plan weekends around watching our games where possible. Fans from both groups go to the Pin Stripe bowl when we play in it.
 
I guess our fanbase is doomed because we can't bring the kiddos to a bowl game after dragging them to every regular season home game for n years. They'll never support us as adults if they didn't have to opportunity to run around the seating section at the bowl venue not watching the game and annoying everyone around them.
 
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