Just a hunch...Oden to WR

[Yeah Baby]

Just my personal opinion from what little we saw of him. To me he is a kid we want to get in the open field with the ball in his hands. Not quite as explosive as Grant but IMO a fine athlete who will get bigger, stronger and better.

Maybe I am wrong and he is a stud QB. I can live with that.

 

[waretown]

Just my personal opinion from what little we saw of him. To me he is a kid we want to get in the open field with the ball in his hands. Not quite as explosive as Grant but IMO a fine athlete who will get bigger, stronger and better.

Maybe I am wrong and he is a stud QB. I can live with that.

I have said that before, I really think he winds up at WR

 

[needmorecowbell]

No, No and No. always need depth. Plus he just got here. Give him time to get a full year in the program. All QBs will have an equal shot with Kill.

 

[Yeah Baby]

Sorry I missed anyone saying this. I do my best to stay off this board.

 

[Yeah Baby]

No, No and No. always need depth. Plus he just got here. Give him time to get a full year in the program. All QBs will have an equal shot with Kill.

Hey it's just a hunch. You are right about depth with so many leaving. But I see Oden as a great athlete that needs to be on the field making plays. If he is 3rd string QB we need to get him on the field in another capacity. We sorely lacked playmakers this year.

 

[AreYouNUTS]

No, we need QB's, but I wouldn't be surprised to see a play here-and-there where we have 2 QB's in at the same time.

 

[RUfinal4]

he is listed as 6 5 and 186 lbs. If he has the speed then maybe he moves to WR in a year or 2. If he adds some muscle weight up to 225-230 maybe he goes to TE.

If he is that good of an athlete he can be like Sanu who can play anywhere and be helpful.

 

[Pritz99]

It'll be interesting to see how much weight he's put on at spring practice, then in August.

 

[RUSK97]

Hey it's just a hunch. You are right about depth with so many leaving. But I see Oden as a great athlete that needs to be on the field making plays. If he is 3rd string QB we need to get him on the field in another capacity. We sorely lacked playmakers this year.

Maybe, but not this year. We need him at QB. Two QBs might be acceptable if you have a pro set scheme in Division 2 (even then, it's probably not okay). It definitely is not okay to have just Gio and a true freshman in Lewis as QB. And I don't count Allen on purpose.

 

[RUsojo]

Just my personal opinion from what little we saw of him. To me he is a kid we want to get in the open field with the ball in his hands. Not quite as explosive as Grant but IMO a fine athlete who will get bigger, stronger and better.

Maybe I am wrong and he is a stud QB. I can live with that.

I said this awhile back in the "who will start next year" thread shortly after the season ended. I made a "bold prediction" that Oden would EVENTUALLY end up at WR. If he doesn't develop his arm and passing acumen he would be a nice tryout at WR. I don't think that time will come until 2018 though (due to depth at QB).

 

[zappaa]

Not a bad hunch, but only after it's determined he will never be able to handle the passing game, if he can he should stay at QB.

 

[CERU00]

We do need QBs who can throw. Not being allowed to throw for an entire season doesn't seem too promising.

 

[LotusAggressor]

From QB savior to WR in one season. The vicissitudes of football fortune. This program really needs a coach who can develop QBs. One out of 8 OCs isn't going to cut it.

 

[IMARUFAN]

We just had 3 QB's transfer out.

There is zero chance that Tylin Oden will play any position but QB this year.

 

[RUMountie]

We do need QBs who can throw. Not being allowed to throw for an entire season doesn't seem too promising.

Another example of bad decision making by Mehringer especially in games where we had no chance to win. Why not let Oden throw, even throw alot when the games outcome is no longer in doubt? I don't think Kill will swtich Oden to WR until he determines he is unable to throw well enough in his offense. We'll see.

 

[Yeah Baby]

He reminds me an awful lot of Underwood who ran the Wildcat first before turning into an NFL receiver. That is why I have this hunch.

Again he could be out best QB next year and if he is Ill be happy for him.

 

[madchuck]

Unless he improves dramatically, I don't see him being a B1G QB. He literally couldn't throw at all. He throws were erratic and didn't have any zip on them. Also he's a stick figure. Similar to Pat White but less explosive.

 

[RutgersRaRa]

Not a bad hunch, but only after it's determined he will never be able to handle the passing game, if he can he should stay at QB.

Jerry will no doubt know if Tylin has the skills at QB that he (Jerry) can develop.

 

[RU old timer]

I didn't realize that QBs were required to throw accurately. Watching the last months of the Flood era, and the Ash opening months, I thought all we needed was a leader who was popular in the locker room and gave us the best chance to go 1-0 each week.And be able to hand the ball off on 3rd down and 6-8 yards to go.

 

[koleszar]

Unless he improves dramatically, I don't see him being a B1G QB. He literally couldn't throw at all. He throws were erratic and didn't have any zip on them. Also he's a stick figure. Similar to Pat White but less explosive.

You got all of that info off of 8 passing attempts?:confused: That's right 8 attempts all season in his freshman year and you've come to your conclusion on his career as a QB. That's one helluva quick hook if you ask me. I'm glad your not our QB coach.

 

[seels2662]

Can we at least see him develop with a real OC before we decide hes useless as a qb

 

[Kbee3]

Unless he improves dramatically, I don't see him being a B1G QB. He literally couldn't throw at all. He throws were erratic and didn't have any zip on them. Also he's a stick figure. Similar to Pat White but less explosive.

Here's an idea. Let's go out and get some guy with years of experience at this level, sign him for $600,000 or so, have him check Oden out, and then make a decision on a position change.

 

[ru75]

Another example of bad decision making by Mehringer especially in games where we had no chance to win. Why not let Oden throw, even throw alot when the games outcome is no longer in doubt? I don't think Kill will swtich Oden to WR until he determines he is unable to throw well enough in his offense. We'll see.

maybe he did not trust the OL to keep him alive?

 

[RUMountie]

maybe he did not trust the OL to keep him alive?

Throw short routes. Simple concept that Mehringer could not grasp.

 

[JerseyShoreKnight]

Throw short routes. Simple concept that Mehringer could not grasp.

And then the defense counters by playing press man. Now what?

 

[Yeah Baby]

I only see one poster in this thread saying he can't play QB. This is about getting our best players on the field where they can make plays. Again, he reminds me an awful lot of Underwood early in his career. Tall, skinny, smooth and athletic.

 

[RUMountie]

And then the defense counters by playing press man. Now what?

Sluggos of course!

 

[Big East Beast]

He reminds me an awful lot of Underwood who ran the Wildcat first before turning into an NFL receiver. That is why I have this hunch.

Again he could be out best QB next year and if he is Ill be happy for him.

Not a bad call, though Odin is quite a bit taller. I don't recall Underwood ever running the wildcat - I remember Lovelace, Sanu, Deering. Are you talking h.s.?

 

[yesrutgers01]

Not a bad call, though Odin is quite a bit taller. I don't recall Underwood ever running the wildcat - I remember Lovelace, Sanu, Deering. Are you talking h.s.?

Odin is quite godlike in stature

 

[RUforJERSEY]

Not a bad call, though Odin is quite a bit taller. I don't recall Underwood ever running the wildcat - I remember Lovelace, Sanu, Deering. Are you talking h.s.?

He ran it a lot. Redshirt freshman year I believe.

 

[madchuck]

Not a bad call, though Odin is quite a bit taller. I don't recall Underwood ever running the wildcat - I remember Lovelace, Sanu, Deering. Are you talking h.s.?

Underwood ran the Wildcat before Lovelace. But not nearly as much as Mr. Sanu the Wild Knight himself.

 

[madchuck]

You got all of that info off of 8 passing attempts?:confused: That's right 8 attempts all season in his freshman year and you've come to your conclusion on his career as a QB. That's one helluva quick hook if you ask me. I'm glad your not our QB coach.

Throw short routes. Simple concept that Mehringer could not grasp.

He only completed 1 of his 8 passing attempts and couldn't throw a screen.

 

[madchuck]

Throw short routes. Simple concept that Mehringer could not grasp.

Mehringer did throw short passes. He threw that stupid wide receiver screen to Harris on 3rd down which NEVER worked.

1st down, Run gain of 1
2nd down, Designed QB run with Laviano, loss of 1
3rd and 10, WR screen to J. Harris, loss of 2.
4th and 12 , Punt.

Mehringers' offense.

 

[Rufaninga]

I didn't realize that QBs were required to throw accurately. Watching the last months of the Flood era, and the Ash opening months, I thought all we needed was a leader who was popular in the locker room and gave us the best chance to go 1-0 each week.And be able to hand the ball off on 3rd down and 6-8 yards to go.

Don't forget about also being good in practice while wearing a green jersey.

 

[JerseyShoreKnight]

Sluggos of course!

But our OL can't block long enough for longer routes. Now what?

Seeing the pattern yet? We couldn't throw deep because our OL couldn't give the QB enough time and we couldn't throw short because defenses knew we couldn't throw deep so they played man press.

 

[RUMountie]

Mehringer did throw short passes. He threw that stupid wide receiver screen to Harris on 3rd down which NEVER worked.

1st down, Run gain of 1
2nd down, Designed QB run with Laviano, loss of 1
3rd and 10, WR screen to J. Harris, loss of 2.
4th and 12 , Punt.

Mehringers' offense.

Obviously you need to show more diversity and smarts with your play calling when the game is still competitive. I was suggesting letting Odin pass (downfield not alot of screens) during the blow out portions of games when it couldn't really affect the outcome, the 2nd or 3rd string defense was in for the opponents and they were likely playing a vanilla look without their starters in the game. Seems like an ideal situation to expose a young QB to game situations without hurting the team's win loss record. Also, I think your final judgment on a QB who has thrown all of 8 passes in a game is a little premature.

 

[RUMountie]

But our OL can't block long enough for longer routes. Now what?

Seeing the pattern yet? We couldn't throw deep because our OL couldn't give the QB enough time and we couldn't throw short because defenses knew we couldn't throw deep so they played man press.

Frisky are we? Slant gos, out and ups or stop and gos don't really take much time to develop and you can run them on 1st or 2nd down when the defense is probably expecting a run. But, yes of course you need to block people to be able to complete passes consistently.

 

[jsol_05]

I have said that before, I really think he winds up at WR

We need athletes at the QB position, keep him there.

 

[Knight Shift]

Unless he improves dramatically, I don't see him being a B1G QB. He literally couldn't throw at all. He throws were erratic and didn't have any zip on them. Also he's a stick figure. Similar to Pat White but less explosive.

The first 60 seconds of his senior highlights disagree.

 

[NickKnight 1]

maybe he did not trust the OL to keep him alive?

Mehringer and Ash opened the season saying our best position was
the offensive line. They knew nothing.