Kiper: Janarion Grant: 'He could be 5th-7th round pick'

[Knight Shift]

http://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/i...janarion_grant_he_cou.html#incart_river_index

Is Kiper more often wrong than right?

Janarion, please come back for another year.

 

[AreYouNUTS]

I hate that. Almost EVERY time Kiper and others say one of our guys "could be" somewhere in the draft they end up much further down IF drafted at all.

 

[RUJMM78]

I would think Grant more likely would be undrafted because his pass receiving skills need improvement and he is coming off a injury.

 

[RU4Real]

Kiper is usually wrong.

 

[WhiteBus]

Kiper maybe wrong but Grant gains nothing by coming back. His pro day or private workouts are more than enough to prove he is healthy.

 

[RutgersRaRa]

Kiper is usually wrong.

They almost named a distant belt after him, that's how far off the boy is.

 

[RU4Real]

They almost named a distant belt after him, that's how far off the boy is.

The dude's like 50 au from the truth.

 

[RUich]

Good luck to him whatever he chooses to do.

 

[RutgersRaRa]

The dude's like 50 au from the truth.

And that's what makes him such a unit.

 

[AreYouNUTS]

Kiper maybe wrong but Grant gains nothing by coming back. His pro day or private workouts are more than enough to prove he is healthy.

He can gain more $$$ by coming back.

 

[PiscatawayMike]

Kiper maybe wrong but Grant gains nothing by coming back. His pro day or private workouts are more than enough to prove he is healthy.

I disagree. He can prove that he's more than just a punt and kick returner. He hasn't proved to anyone yet that he's a consistent threat as a WR.

 

[RU#1fan]

He can gain more $$$ by coming back.

This. We all saw what happened to Longa and Coleman. Left early and not drafted. Could another year helped ? You bet ya. Although Coleman did tuff it on practice squads he is seeing time now.

 

[Scarlet_Scourge]

Coleman was hurt, and NFL teams are normally not know to take chances. How could they be sure that he would recover and get back to be as great as it was before he was hurt? Thankfully for him, he is healthy now and doing good in the NFL, but he could have gotten a lot more money if he stayed and proved he could still play at a high level. That is the risk you take for leaving early after a season ending injury.

 

[Rokodesh]

Kiper is right. Grant isn't going higher than round 5 at the very very best.

 

[j10oreo]

Kiper is generally wrong about everything past the first pick of the draft.

 

[andysjb]

Players don't necessarily get better if they go back to college for another year. They may improve their draft stock, but that doesn't mean they are better. The question isn't if Grant will be drafted, but if he can make an NFL team.

 

[kapyoche]

Why should he come back? He has nothing to gain by coming back.

 

[RU4Real]

Why should he come back? He has nothing to gain by coming back.

Hookers and blow, except that we don't have a big time fan base.

So yeah, probably nothing.

 

[WhiteBus]

I disagree. He can prove that he's more than just a punt and kick returner. He hasn't proved to anyone yet that he's a consistent threat as a WR.

Not really. He will always be considered a kick returner with some skills at WR. He will not be drafted because he is a wide receiver. Too many are better. He has a unique skill. That is why he will be drafted.
If he misses one more game in college because of injury, his stock will plummet. Not worth the risk.

 

[RUwoz]

Not really. He will always be considered a kick returner with some skills at WR. He will not be drafted because he is a wide receiver. Too many are better. He has a unique skill. That is why he will be drafted.
If he misses one more game in college because of injury, his stock will plummet. Not worth the risk.

this right here, no chance risking it next year in college. He's not good enough that NFL will give him a third chance if he gets injured next year

 

[madchuck]

Not really. He will always be considered a kick returner with some skills at WR. He will not be drafted because he is a wide receiver. Too many are better. He has a unique skill. That is why he will be drafted.
If he misses one more game in college because of injury, his stock will plummet. Not worth the risk.

I agree with you but there's a lot of players who can do both. With only 53 guys on the roster, NFL teams look for someone who can do both unless you're Devin Hester.

 

[rutgers4life11]

For every Brandon Coleman, there's 30 guys that went the same route and didn't make it past a year or two. So always rolling the dice after an injury. But the difference between getting drafted and going undrafted is astronomical in terms of guarantees.

So if I'm Grant, I want to hear from nfl execs/advisors that I have over 80% chance of going in draft. Even 7th round. If so, makes sense to go.

Otherwise, get a free Masters degree that can set up for 40-50 years of better pay. Then get certain assurances from Ash that they will never push you if banged up, have a dedicated trainer/doctor on you to evaluate each week, and perhaps even look into injury insurance.

 

[R1766U]

No way he is coming back, not worth the risk.

 

[ntlrock1]

Player comp: Dwayne Harris returner/WR for NY Giants

I think he should declare ASAP

 

[Extra Point]

The risk of declaring is, most likely he won't be drafted and he will have to work like hell to make a team. I don't think he showed enough this year because of his short season. The team won 2 games against week teams.
If he plays college ball one more year and polishes his WR skills he will more likely be drafted. It's a blessing that he is able to come back on a medical redshirt. Coleman has NFL size so he had an advantage. This is my opinion anyway. Grant has good advisors so whatever he does will be best for him.

 

[198hamilton]

There are injuries and there are injuries. Grant is a great returner because of his vision and his wheels. His vision will always be there it's innate. Having broken one of his wheels, its possible he comes back a half step slower/slightly less agile even if he is cleared medically and performs well at a pro day. Could be the difference between an average returner, which you can always find on an NFL roster and great one worthy of a draft pick. Kick and punt returns are helter skelter and tough to reproduce at a tryout. If you were an NFL exec do you use a precious draft pick on him?

 

[MJL_52]

Grant, either this year or next, is going to be a 4-5th round pick of Rutgers North and be a key part of another SB win...book it.

 

[mildone]

Hookers and blow, except that we don't have a big time fan base.

So yeah, probably nothing.

:eek:

 

[RUfinal4]

good luck to Grant no matter what he decides to do. Personally, I think he should leave if he is getting reliable information that he can make an NFL squad. As a practice squad player he get $6900 a week or about $117k for the season. I know many Rutgers alums over 30 years old that don't make 6 figures yet so as a 23 year old it would be worth it.

 

[RUsojo]

good luck to Grant no matter what he decides to do. Personally, I think he should leave if he is getting reliable information that he can make an NFL squad. As a practice squad player he get $6900 a week or about $117k for the season. I know many Rutgers alums over 30 years old that don't make 6 figures yet so as a 23 year old it would be worth it.

Assuming he goes that route, he could go make the money and pay for college himself once he's out of the league - or stay and have college paid for and save the on tuition/room and board.

We've seen this before with Jamison (6th round grade IIRC) and Coleman (4th IIRC).

If he needs the money for him and family he should leave. But if not, he should stay for the degree if he doesn't have it, or if just once one more year of the college experience. Unless he's a lifer in the NFL, his age won't become a factor in limiting his years in the league, his talent will be. If he can stay in the college and make a 53 man roster his first season after a whole year to recover instead of spending his first year on the practice squad he makes more money that way plus has his degree paid for.

 

[cicero grimes]

I love him but right now I see him as an undrafted FA if he comes out. If he does return and has a solid season as a receiver and a return to par as a returner he could be drafted in rounds 4-7.

 

[Blitz Pakage]

I love him but right now I see him as an undrafted FA if he comes out. If he does return and has a solid season as a receiver and a return to par as a returner he could be drafted in rounds 4-7.

I agree totally! I love him too, but with the injury, I don't see him in the draft this year. It's a bad twist of fate for him, but unfortunately he has to prove he is healthy again and the same player he was before the injury. It's happened to many athletes and I'm getting the feeling he is going to be back next year.

 

[drewbagel423]

Not really. He will always be considered a kick returner with some skills at WR. He will not be drafted because he is a wide receiver. Too many are better. He has a unique skill. That is why he will be drafted.
If he misses one more game in college because of injury, his stock will plummet. Not worth the risk.

Plummet? Right now he has an outside shot of getting drafted, He's more like an UFA or a camp invite. How much lower is there for his stock to go?

good luck to Grant no matter what he decides to do. Personally, I think he should leave if he is getting reliable information that he can make an NFL squad. As a practice squad player he get $6900 a week or about $117k for the season. I know many Rutgers alums over 30 years old that don't make 6 figures yet so as a 23 year old it would be worth it.

That's one season. If he comes back, earns his Masters and actually gets drafted in the late rounds he might be able to stick on a roster for a couple years then have his Masters and be set for life.

 

[newwavedave1]

Put me in the improves his stock if he comes back column. Of course he would have to stay injury free and perform well.

 

[cicero grimes]

I think right now he is viewed only as a return guy, albeit a good one. If he comes back and all the way and also does well as a receiver, I see him getting drafted. Reminds me of a poor man's TY Hilton.

 

[RUBigFrank]

He should go if that is actually where he is chosen.

Coming off an injury and being one dimensional as a return man - I do not see him getting drafted.

 

[sct1111]

He is currently tired in first in the history books for return touchdowns. Maybe he comes back to become the lone record holder. It's something he will never have another chance to do.

 

[madchuck]

Grant is too one dimensional. A lot of other teams have someone who is a return guy but can also play another position i.e. Tavon Austin, Darren Sproles, Ted Ginn. Unless Grant improves as a receiver, he'll be a low round draft pick and have a difficult time making the 53. Willie Foster was a great return guy too and probably a better receiver than Grant and didn't make the league.

 

[Beancounter88]

5-7 round projection is too close to UFA status IMO to risk it, but we don't know his education or financial status. If he doesn't have to declare, he probably should come back and improve his WR skills. Can he be a strong slot WR or is he a more glorified return guy? Big difference in dollars there.

 

[Extra Point]

Lets watch Grant. This is a good video.