No. We are a BIG Ten athletic program . We are done shopping at the Dollar Tree
Let the speculation begin…who are the top prospects to fill the role of AD?….Go!
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Need football person which means no women.
Debbie Yow and Julie Herman were worst ADs in memory.
Women tend to be compilers for grades and honors and little program feather caps.
They dont do football well - like most men but the best football ADs are men.
There are no women dictators
Terry Mohajir UCF's AD might deserve a looksee along with having Sara a top candidate
Jennifer Cohen USC's AD seems to be doing pretty good there ( her first year at USC) , after doing a great job as Washington's AD
Females heading College Athletic Departments are not found very often and when thinking about female ADs we tend to remember the bad ones , overlooking the ones that do a good job.
Maybe that is because in 2023 the percentage of females holding College AD positions was only 15%
and the bad ones might stand out because of the low number of Women ADs .
Hate to praise anything Penn State but their AD ( Sandy Barbour ) did a good ob while California's AD and PSU doesn't seem to be having a time of the month moments with her their AD.
Jennifer Cohen USC's AD seems to be doing pretty good there ( her first year at USC) , after doing a great job as Washington's AD
Females heading College Athletic Departments are not found very often and when thinking about female ADs we tend to remember the bad ones , overlooking the ones that do a good job.
Maybe that is because in 2023 the percentage of females holding College AD positions was only 15%
and the bad ones might stand out because of the low number of Women ADs .
Pick the best candidate - nothing else matters - at least it shouldn't.
first choice for AD: Tim Pernetti
2nd choice: Jon Newman.
Rutgers person who knows the landscape is of the utmost importance.
2nd choice: Jon Newman.
Rutgers person who knows the landscape is of the utmost importance.
Whoever comes in will have big shoes to Phil regardless.
They need to continue investing in football and basketball, but the Olympic sports also need attention.
Contrary to what some may feel here the men’s Lacrosse program is treading, water and soccer as well.
They need to continue investing in football and basketball, but the Olympic sports also need attention.
Contrary to what some may feel here the men’s Lacrosse program is treading, water and soccer as well.
If this is not Mr. Magoo thinking, we are doomed. We need to hire folks with a real big-time athletics resumes, like the big boys do. Drop the provincial thinking, or we’ll always be the same old Rutgers.
I was at the time of the post, yes
Some universities have deep-rooted programs that drive themselves. Beth Mowins could probably run PSU. RU isn't a Kenworth truck football wise. Football is on the edge too often, and if the team went Ivy League more than a few people would be thrilled. Imagine PSU going Ivy - people would be getting punched.
Football can't be "one of the kids in a family of teams." Football pays the bills and stirs the drink as Reggie Jackson once said (about himself). Its the engine pulling the train and not one of the cars. It also takes dynamic people and Schiano is one, but if he expired or something who would be the diesel? Some good ADs are very good at being stout while also staying out of the way until needed.
Currently, girl bosses are failing all over the place. Kathleen Kennedy killed Lucasfilm and Star Wars. Dana Walden is killing Disney films with her "diversity" mandates (the new Snow White is a disaster that had Gal Gadot bailing out on promos). Victoria Alonso helped kill MCU and got fired.
The new "narrative" is that a lot of women were hired as things were going off the rails and that's why they've been failing - they were "set-up to fail" they say. This is pretty stupid because people get the top jobs to solve problems in complex times. The "glass cliff" is the new sob story
Some women like AMD's Lisa Su do well because she lets the engineers set the tone and not the marketers (Intel's mistake). A Lisa Su type could run some top programs . At RU it could be easy to roll-off the log for too many reasons to list here.
Army had 15 consecutive losing seasons because it hired a "builder" AD who wanted construction projects. Then he got Army into CUSA which was all wrong and he wanted pro offense and not an option. There were many failed efforts to get things fixed. Only a ND football AD, and Monken a former Navy coach who wasn't intimidated by the brass (every coach after Sutton had a hard time feeling at ease at West Point).
Boo Corrigan and Monken went to the brass and TOLD THEM what they needed to do. These were guys who knew the game, recruiting, scheduling , marketing, training etc and drove the program with brass along for the ride. RU needs that kind of savvy and knowledge and experience. A lot of people these days are really not that good at stuff despite their glowing CVs and awards.
RU isn't SUNY Albany - it needs top football people who know everything football already. Basketball, volleyball, track and all that are nice but even Hobbs struggled for a while to get to the front on football. Julie's hiring was a circus as some wanted her just because she was a lesbian. Then Tenn. volleyball players went after her for abuses. I could see RU sinking into the same pit - just stick to football experience as a aiming point.
The invisible danger of the 'glass cliff'
In difficult times, people are more likely to appoint women and people of colour to be leaders. But this puts crisis leaders in a very precarious position.
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Women CEOs at Fortune 500 companies don’t last as long as men
Their tenure is shorter by a long shot.
E-mails reveal discord within Rutgers over hiring of AD Julie Hermann
The controversy over the appointment of Julie Hermann as Rutgers athletic director continued today as e-mails emerged showing infighting within the university over whether the new hire was properly vetted.
I’m guessing you keep your wife barefoot, pregnant and in the kitchen?Some universities have deep-rooted programs that drive themselves. Beth Mowins could probably run PSU. RU isn't a Kenworth truck football wise. Football is on the edge too often, and if the team went Ivy League more than a few people would be thrilled. Imagine PSU going Ivy - people would be getting punched.
Football can't be "one of the kids in a family of teams." Football pays the bills and stirs the drink as Reggie Jackson once said (about himself). Its the engine pulling the train and not one of the cars. It also takes dynamic people and Schiano is one, but if he expired or something who would be the diesel? Some good ADs are very good at being stout while also staying out of the way until needed.
Currently, girl bosses are failing all over the place. Kathleen Kennedy killed Lucasfilm and Star Wars. Dana Walden is killing Disney films with her "diversity" mandates (the new Snow White is a disaster that had Gal Gadot bailing out on promos). Victoria Alonso helped kill MCU and got fired.
The new "narrative" is that a lot of women were hired as things were going off the rails and that's why they've been failing - they were "set-up to fail" they say. This is pretty stupid because people get the top jobs to solve problems in complex times. The "glass cliff" is the new sob story
Some women like AMD's Lisa Su do well because she lets the engineers set the tone and not the marketers (Intel's mistake). A Lisa Su type could run some top programs . At RU it could be easy to roll-off the log for too many reasons to list here.
Army had 15 consecutive losing seasons because it hired a "builder" AD who wanted construction projects. Then he got Army into CUSA which was all wrong and he wanted pro offense and not an option. There were many failed efforts to get things fixed. Only a ND football AD, and Monken a former Navy coach who wasn't intimidated by the brass (every coach after Sutton had a hard time feeling at ease at West Point).
Boo Corrigan and Monken went to the brass and TOLD THEM what they needed to do. These were guys who knew the game, recruiting, scheduling , marketing, training etc and drove the program with brass along for the ride. RU needs that kind of savvy and knowledge and experience. A lot of people these days are really not that good at stuff despite their glowing CVs and awards.
RU isn't SUNY Albany - it needs top football people who know everything football already. Basketball, volleyball, track and all that are nice but even Hobbs struggled for a while to get to the front on football. Julie's hiring was a circus as some wanted her just because she was a lesbian. Then Tenn. volleyball players went after her for abuses. I could see RU sinking into the same pit - just stick to football experience as a aiming point.
The invisible danger of the 'glass cliff'
In difficult times, people are more likely to appoint women and people of colour to be leaders. But this puts crisis leaders in a very precarious position.
Women CEOs at Fortune 500 companies don’t last as long as men
Their tenure is shorter by a long shot.fortune.com
E-mails reveal discord within Rutgers over hiring of AD Julie Hermann
The controversy over the appointment of Julie Hermann as Rutgers athletic director continued today as e-mails emerged showing infighting within the university over whether the new hire was properly vetted.www.nj.com
I was too sensible to get married - its a sunset and not a sunrise
But barefoot and pregnant women can know football if from the right state.
I watch them noodle catfish in Alabama,
Not that I would marry one (the woman that is)
You’re a childless cat person
The problem is, we are in a very different environment that "the big boys". I'd love for what you suggest to actually work. I have no faith that it would... unless, of course, the candidate had Epstein's black book or some other political chip to keep the greedy politicians at bay.
I know its only been since friday when this all broke about Pat Hobbs resigning, but has the University made any announcement as to when a search for a new AD is going to begin? How about the process they will use to evaluate candidates? (I.e. set up a committee, BOG subgroup, outside recruiter, etc), Have they even announced the criteria of a candidate they are looking for? The silence from the University is deafening and either they are waiting for another shoe to drop or they were caught so off guard they are way behind the story.
Home run for the wrestling program!!! But, it would be a big jump from HC position in an Olympic sport to managing the entire department with the greatest attention going towards football and basketball.
At least the pharmacy would show up.
Why do they need to announce the criteria?
Guarantee you Holloway was fielding calls all weekend.
Expect to hear , in the next couple of days, a search committee is being formed and maybe hired an executive search firm to help
I think that “used to be here” is pretty significant for an AD (no so much for a coach). It shouldn’t disqualify a candidate if they don’t check that box, but it would be really great to have someone who knows our culture.
THIS IS THE ONE Sean Frazier:
He was the one who go f'd over by the Julie Hermann cabal. Years of experience at multiple levels, significant experience at Wisconsin, played football at Alabama, has led NIU for the last 11 years.
In his 11th year at the helm of the Northern Illinois University Department of Intercollegiate Athletics, Sean T. Frazier has guided the Huskies to historic milestones competitively, academically and socially, cemented his status as both a national and community leader on diversity and inclusion and led successful fundraising efforts that have transformed the student-athlete experience at NIU.
n his 11th year at the helm of the Northern Illinois University Department of Intercollegiate Athletics, Sean T. Frazier has guided the Huskies to historic milestones competitively, academically and socially, cemented his status as both a national and community leader on diversity and inclusion and led successful fundraising efforts that have transformed the student-athlete experience at NIU.
Prior to NIU, Frazier spent six years in senior leadership roles at the University of Wisconsin and was promoted to deputy director of athletics in 2011, Frazier's duties grew to include managing all day-to-day internal and external operations for Badger Athletics and serving as UW's Deputy AD and Chief of Staff to Director of Athletics Barry Alvarez.
Frazier oversaw all fundraising and advancement activities at UW, including the annual fund, major gifts, suites and club seats, endowments, multimedia rights, ticket operations and alumni affairs. During his tenure at Wisconsin, he served as the administrator for three revenue-producing sports (football, men's basketball and men's ice hockey), providing direct support to the football program that won three consecutive Big Ten Conference Championships. Along with three Rose Bowl appearances. Frazier also served as Chair of the NCAA Men's Ice Hockey Committee in 2011.
Frazier played a lead role in raising $123 million for multiple capital projects at UW, including a $31 million hockey/swim facility, an $86 million student-athlete performance center and a $3.5 million softball indoor practice facility.
A Long Island, N.Y. native, he played four years of college football at the University of Alabama from 1987-91 and was a member of the 1989 SEC Championship team.
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Jeffrey Longhofer passed away last year.
He was the one who go f'd over by the Julie Hermann cabal. Years of experience at multiple levels, significant experience at Wisconsin, played football at Alabama, has led NIU for the last 11 years.
In his 11th year at the helm of the Northern Illinois University Department of Intercollegiate Athletics, Sean T. Frazier has guided the Huskies to historic milestones competitively, academically and socially, cemented his status as both a national and community leader on diversity and inclusion and led successful fundraising efforts that have transformed the student-athlete experience at NIU.
n his 11th year at the helm of the Northern Illinois University Department of Intercollegiate Athletics, Sean T. Frazier has guided the Huskies to historic milestones competitively, academically and socially, cemented his status as both a national and community leader on diversity and inclusion and led successful fundraising efforts that have transformed the student-athlete experience at NIU.
Prior to NIU, Frazier spent six years in senior leadership roles at the University of Wisconsin and was promoted to deputy director of athletics in 2011, Frazier's duties grew to include managing all day-to-day internal and external operations for Badger Athletics and serving as UW's Deputy AD and Chief of Staff to Director of Athletics Barry Alvarez.
Frazier oversaw all fundraising and advancement activities at UW, including the annual fund, major gifts, suites and club seats, endowments, multimedia rights, ticket operations and alumni affairs. During his tenure at Wisconsin, he served as the administrator for three revenue-producing sports (football, men's basketball and men's ice hockey), providing direct support to the football program that won three consecutive Big Ten Conference Championships. Along with three Rose Bowl appearances. Frazier also served as Chair of the NCAA Men's Ice Hockey Committee in 2011.
Frazier played a lead role in raising $123 million for multiple capital projects at UW, including a $31 million hockey/swim facility, an $86 million student-athlete performance center and a $3.5 million softball indoor practice facility.
A Long Island, N.Y. native, he played four years of college football at the University of Alabama from 1987-91 and was a member of the 1989 SEC Championship team.
Sean T. Frazier - Vice President/Director of Athletics and Recreation - Staff Directory - NIU Athletics
In his 11th year at the helm of the Northern Illinois University Department of Intercollegiate Athletics, Sean T. Frazier has guided the Huskies to historic milestones
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FRAZIER'S CORNER: Off and Running After a Banner Year - NIU Athletics
It's a new year, the Fall 2022 semester is underway and the NIU campus has come to life! As NIU President Lisa Freeman said earlier this week in her annual address
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Wisconsin's Sean Frazier: I wish Rutgers and Julie Hermann the best
Runner-up to Scarlet Knights' AD calls search process "enlightening"
Rutgers official writes apology after hostile questioning of AD candidate, though Hermann let off hook
ABOUT LAST KNIGHT: Sean Frazier (right), one of the two finalists for the Rutgers Athletic Director position ultimately filled by Julie Hermann (inset), was the victim of an “argumentative” line of…
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Jeffrey Longhofer passed away last year.
Good NCAA bloodlines …
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Brian White - Vice President and Director of Athletics - Staff Directory - Florida Atlantic University Athletics
FROM THE DESK OF BRIAN WHITE Brian White was introduced as Vice President and Director of Athletics at Florida Atlantic University on March 3, 2018. Bringing
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Damn.... if only Pernetti didnt just take a commisionner job. would have been amazing for him to link back up with Schiano again.
Tim and Greg only worked for two years together. The second year they both knew Schiano was actively looking.
If that was true, and I’m not saying it’s not, then Tim should have been better prepared with a replacement.
What about Schiano? Been around for a while, knows the landscape and the politics. Not exactly a spring chicken…maybe time for him to stay but move into something else.
In a decade, sure. I'd be good with him in a Barry Alverez esque role when hes done coaching. Right now, no. Don't weaken football right now by moving him into an admin role.
Barry Alvarez did it. This is wild. Barry Alvarez was a linebacker in college. After serving as head coach of Wisconsin for 15 years, when he was 58 years old in 2005, Alvarez retired as head coach and named Bret Bielema, his defense coordinator, as head coach.
Greg played linebacker in college. He has been head coach at Rutgers for 15 years. He is 58 years old. His DC is viewed by some as head coach in waiting.
The differences. Alvarez built a perennially winning program, winning multiple Rose Bowls and 3 Big 10 championships. His tenure as head coach was uninterrupted. He served both as head coach and AD in 2004 before retiring from the head coach role.
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Greg Schiano - Wikipedia
Thorr deserves a look. Currently, he is athletic director at University of Rhode Island.
- Hired Danny H to coach basketball when Rutgers couldn’t get Danny. Thorr’s basketball hire won more NCAA tournament games coaching URI in 24 hours than Pat’s hire Pike won in 20 years at Stony Brook and Rutgers
- Thorr’s URI football team has winning record four years in a row
- Long term athletics exec at flagship state universities in Northeast
- Rutgers can afford Thorr and he will run down the Turnpike to take the job
Thorr Bjorn. Amy Towers must bring him in for interview asap.
- Hired Danny H to coach basketball when Rutgers couldn’t get Danny. Thorr’s basketball hire won more NCAA tournament games coaching URI in 24 hours than Pat’s hire Pike won in 20 years at Stony Brook and Rutgers
- Thorr’s URI football team has winning record four years in a row
- Long term athletics exec at flagship state universities in Northeast
- Rutgers can afford Thorr and he will run down the Turnpike to take the job
Thorr Bjorn. Amy Towers must bring him in for interview asap.
Tim has many replacements in mind. The problem wasn't Tim, the problem was the same reason why Schiano left, money! Rutgers was back to going the cheap route. Ending up with Flood wasn't on Tim.
But he shouldn’t have hired flood . Even I knew “flood was a dud” and posted that here . Pernetti should have had a better eye than a legendary poster . He could have found something better on the bargain basement rack.
It works both ways, many fans were saying how great of a hire it was by Tim after the recruiting class and the start to the 2012 season. Then the team collapsed and the rest is history.
On another note, we must be the only school in the country where the narrative is the AD didn’t really hire the football coach.
Flood - oh pernetti wanted someone better but he hired him anyway
Ash - oh Hobbs was forced to hire him
Schiano- oh Hobbs was forced to hire him
Plum is dumb! Who else would Rutgers get for $750,000?? He was one of, if not the lowest paid HC at the time.
I've never said Hobbs was forced to hire Ash, I think that narrative is complete crap.
Hobbs was forced to hire Schiano hen the uproar got the Gov involved.
The dud was picked after Super Mario accepted the position than came back asking for more money and went back to FIU aster told no.
Flood was a panic hire because it was feared the great recruiting class Schiano was bringing in might leave for other programs if someone wasn't hired quickly after Cristobal left Rutgers hanging .
With the funds Pernetti had to offer, Flood was a convenient choice in the price is right category Rutgers was demanding and most qualified candidates would say no to.
Bad choice yes, but you get what you pay for and when going on the cheap, you are not going to get the best only someone you hope will make the grade.
Flood made a D-
Are you nuts and many others were opposed to Flood from the moment his name was mentioned as a possible choice.
Sad to say: I was in the give Flood a chance category and that proved to be the wrong category to be in.
He’s only really a D because of what happened at the end. Otherwise he was easily a solid C+ relative to the full universe of coaches we could have realistically hired in our price range.
Yes - Greg left him a good foundation but there are countless examples of coaches that miserably failed despite a ton of pre-season potential. Only in his last year did Flood not get to a bowl game. He went 8-5 in the BIG East and he shared a BE title. When you look at his results, anyone who thinks that more than half of the guys out there we could’ve afforded would’ve done better are not being honest with themselves. There are a lot of unproven up and coming coordinators out there who could’ve turned out like Ash who had no idea how to be a game day head coach at all. Flood was at least pretty decent at that piece.
A Guy who has really proven himself over time is Lance Leipold. I still remember the spanking he gave Rutgers when they came into our house as a patsy and we were schooled. He is now doing a great job at Kansas and it is only time before he will be at a blue blood!
