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yeah i think people here seem to think that two 5* star freshman = tournament run
Your expectations are quite literally pathetic. Don't even start with this BS. If we don't make the tournament pike is done. Period. End of story. He will be viewed universally as one of the worst coaches in college basketball.
 
Only thing I will add is that I imagine even with Ace/Dylan - NIL $$$ comes into play in bringing portal players these days.
You do not need to pay everyone a crazy amount of money. Coaches can still identify under the radar guys and turn them into contributors. We have done it for years, unless that was all coach Hobbs. If pikiell cannot do it for the ONE YEAR it actually matters, he's a failure.
 
Duke didn't do too much last year with 2 of top 3, there was no run . yes a 5 seed in tournament but had 3 of top 7 recruits and returning Jeremy Roach.

Yes Kentucky looks great this year with 2 of top 5 last year's class, however they had a returning stud Antonio Reeves.

2021 Memphis had 2 of top 7 (Bates and Duren) and did nothing with Bates being a bust.

Zion/RJ Barrett/Cam Reddish Duke team was pretty nuts with all the freshman carrying the team.
I mean a five seed would be a pretty good year.
 
Your expectations are quite literally pathetic. Don't even start with this BS. If we don't make the tournament pike is done. Period. End of story. He will be viewed universally as one of the worst coaches in college basketball.

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Duke didn't do too much last year with 2 of top 3, there was no run . yes a 5 seed in tournament but had 3 of top 7 recruits and returning Jeremy Roach.

Yes Kentucky looks great this year with 2 of top 5 last year's class, however they had a returning stud Antonio Reeves.

2021 Memphis had 2 of top 7 (Bates and Duren) and did nothing with Bates being a bust.

Zion/RJ Barrett/Cam Reddish Duke team was pretty nuts with all the freshman carrying the team.
Duke was done in by injuries. Dariq Whitehead broke his foot before the season, missed camp and the first few games, and was never right, and probably should not have rushed back. Lively was also banged up most of the year. Injuries are always a big factor, let’s hope we get healthy years from Dylan and Ace.
 
I've never seen a fan of a team with a coach who completely blew it in the last half of the season TWO seasons in a row in order to miss the tournament be as content as you are. Especially after the most talented team we've ever had here gets blown out of kiddie play-in tournament for the real NCAA tournament the year before.

Learn to have some expectations.
 
I've never seen a fan of a team with a coach who completely blew it in the last half of the season TWO seasons in a row in order to miss the tournament be as content as you are. Especially after the most talented team we've ever had here gets blown out of kiddie play-in tournament for the real NCAA tournament the year before.

Learn to have some expectations.

What exactly do your expectations do or mean for the program?
 
Except.... not all 5 stars are created equally. Either Ace or Dylan would be the best recruits Indiana has pulled in the last 25 years. Ace could realistically be the #1 pick in the draft when he comes out based on what scouts are projecting. When in recent times has Indiana had a recruit like that? So yes - obviously 2 guys don't make a team. But if we don't make the tourney next year I'm struggling to see how that is not a failure. And if it's because Pike couldn't convince guys to join up with these two studs - I mean isn't that on him too?
Yes it’s his job to field a winner but it’s a tall task to convince other impact players to come for less opportunity and less available NIL than other schools can offer.

Who would come here to mostly just watch the 2 big freshmen and hopefully JW shoot ?

Next year after the 2 leave we’ll be a more desirable transfer spot
 
I've never seen a fan of a team with a coach who completely blew it in the last half of the season TWO seasons in a row in order to miss the tournament be as content as you are. Especially after the most talented team we've ever had here gets blown out of kiddie play-in tournament for the real NCAA tournament the year before.

Learn to have some expectations.
That.. does not accurately describe what happened this year lol
 
That.. does not accurately describe what happened this year lol
Yea! One of our best players didn't decide to sit out while healthy?

Pike lost this team. They weren't even trying to play defense by the end. Somehow griff didn't take a single step forward. Miller regressed. Our big transfer was quite literally worthless. Cliff regressed.

Our coach was literally garbage this year.
 
Yea! One of our best players didn't decide to sit out while healthy?

Pike lost this team. They weren't even trying to play defense by the end. Somehow griff didn't take a single step forward. Miller regressed. Our big transfer was quite literally worthless. Cliff regressed.

Our coach was literally garbage this year.
Gavin didn't make a single step forward? He went from 24% to 37% from three over the last seven games of the year.

Who TF is Miller?
 
Gavin didn't make a single step forward? He went from 24% to 37% from three over the last seven games of the year.

Who TF is Miller?
I'm convinced some of these guys just try and start up conversation. Lol maybe they work for rivals idk but some of the opinions on this board are driven by an agenda. Ignoring some facts and highlighting others..it's usually more prevalent on the football board but soon no place on the Internet will have honest discussions just people trying to manipulate opinions.
 
Yea! One of our best players didn't decide to sit out while healthy?

Pike lost this team. They weren't even trying to play defense by the end. Somehow griff didn't take a single step forward. Miller regressed. Our big transfer was quite literally worthless. Cliff regressed.

Our coach was literally garbage this year.
That’s not even what your other post says. You’re too stupid to keep track of your own idiocy.
 
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That’s not even what your other post says. You’re too stupid to keep track of your own idiocy.
You seem to be under the assumption there was no way to make the tournament this year. That's a fallacy. We had a decent path to the tournament down the stretch right before we lost everything and pike couldn't keep mag from quitting on his team.

He lost his team down the stretch. We had a chance to make the tournament right before they shit the bed. Idk what to tell you. Your team sucks and has no heart or soul.
 
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You seem to be under the assumption there was no way to make the tournament this year. That's a fallacy. We had a decent path to the tournament down the stretch right before we lost everything and pike couldn't keep mag from quitting on his team.

He lost his team down the stretch. We had a chance to make the tournament right before they shit the bed. Idk what to tell you. Your team sucks and has no heart or soul.
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I've never seen a fan of a team with a coach who completely blew it in the last half of the season TWO seasons in a row in order to miss the tournament be as content as you are. Especially after the most talented team we've ever had here gets blown out of kiddie play-in tournament for the real NCAA tournament the year before.

Learn to have some expectations.
We had 4 straight NCAA teams. And don't even tell me "it was 2". it took 2 extraordinary circumstances to get 2 bids stripped.

This year sucked but it happens to the best of the blue bloods.
 
We had 4 straight NCAA teams. And don't even tell me "it was 2". it took 2 extraordinary circumstances to get 2 bids stripped.

This year sucked but it happens to the best of the blue bloods.
I agree for 2020 but for 2023 we didn't make the tournament, that simple, and your argument is further weakened by the home Hofstra loss.
 
Mag is gone, Pike doesn't want him back, I doubt that very few P5 programs would be interested. In addition to screwing RU and his teammates, he royally screwed himself. With his injury history both physical and mental. He has very little value as a one year transfer, who spends money on such a risky proposition.
 
We had 4 straight NCAA teams. And don't even tell me "it was 2". it took 2 extraordinary circumstances to get 2 bids stripped.

This year sucked but it happens to the best of the blue bloods.
This is the type of statement that's literally delusional. Apparently we make the tournament even when we don't make the tournament! Wow. Pike..working his magic
 
Your expectations are quite literally pathetic. Don't even start with this BS. If we don't make the tournament pike is done. Period. End of story. He will be viewed universally as one of the worst coaches in college basketball.
If that did happen, he wouldn't even be close to being the worst head coach that RU has had.
 
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