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Maryland reasserts themselves after the loss at Michigan meanwhile OSU proving to be an average team who is going to struggle to make the NCAA tourney...and yes it makes me feel worse that OSU wiped the floor with RU
 
Maryland reasserts themselves after the loss at Michigan meanwhile OSU proving to be an average team who is going to struggle to make the NCAA tourney...and yes it makes me feel worse that OSU wiped the floor with RU
Reassert themselves. You are kidding ? They wiped the floor with Ohio State , who was down 40. Most of the game. I guess Thad Motta with a full roster forgot how to coach . He did just beat Kentucky about 2 weeks ago.
As for Ohio State wiping the floor against Ru, I guess you didn't watch the first half since you forgot the game started at 630pm and missed one of our best halves of the year, with hustling, defense and rebounding. Ru wore out in the second half and once they got behind 10-15, they started running which made it worse than it was. That game turned into a dunk fest for them because we had no one over 6'4 playing.
 
From the onset both Maryland basketball teams were fully prepared to compete for the B1G league championship.Outstandng coaching and talent makes the difference.
 
Bottom line is Ohio State isnt that good..blown to bits their last 2 games...Rutgers first half was fools gold...individual offensive plays against a team sleepwalking so In twoo games Rutgers got blitzed by mediocre teams. Somehow they upset Kentucky but beyond that their resume is middling. Keep making a excuses for everything. .
 
Bottom line is Ohio State isnt that good..blown to bits their last 2 games...Rutgers first half was fools gold...individual offensive plays against a team sleepwalking so In twoo games Rutgers got blitzed by mediocre teams. Somehow they upset Kentucky but beyond that their resume is middling. Keep making a excuses for everything. .
What is the matter ? You let facts get in the way of what you post.. How did they terrible team Minnesota team do today against 5-0 Indianda today? Don't let the facts slap you in your face. Was Indiana at full strength except for Blackmon who has been out for all 5 of their wins? Yes . Somehow that terrible team stayed with them to the end.
 
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Bottom line is Ohio State isnt that good..blown to bits their last 2 games...Rutgers first half was fools gold...individual offensive plays against a team sleepwalking so In twoo games Rutgers got blitzed by mediocre teams. Somehow they upset Kentucky but beyond that their resume is middling. Keep making a excuses for everything. .
Hey Bac, How is that shitty Nebraska team doing at half on the road at Illinois? Yeah that Illinois that just beat Purdue? Check the facts !!!!
 
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Bottom line is Ohio State isnt that good..blown to bits their last 2 games...Rutgers first half was fools gold...individual offensive plays against a team sleepwalking so In twoo games Rutgers got blitzed by mediocre teams. Somehow they upset Kentucky but beyond that their resume is middling. Keep making a excuses for everything. .

bac,

That first half vs OSU may be the highlight of the season for RU fans. Pls don't take away what little joy we have this season. lol
 
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Hey Bac, How is that shitty Nebraska team doing at half on the road at Illinois? Yeah that Illinois that just beat Purdue? Check the facts !!!!


And Illinois is considered another bottom 5 or 6 school..hey credit Nebby they are beating the teams around them. But exactly what doea this mean...are we only going to lose by 23 to Illinois. We compete in the Big 10 conference you seem to thinks its perfectly acceptable that every team should beat Rutgers by 25
 
With 7 players that was inevitable. Good can't play 25 minutes. And we hung with Indiana too and Laurent played.
 
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With 7 players that was inevitable. Good can't play 25 minutes. And we hung with Indiana too and Laurent played.
Hey you won't comprehend what facts I post so listen to Shields . Maybe you will see what is being said.
 
And Illinois is considered another bottom 5 or 6 school..hey credit Nebby they are beating the teams around them. But exactly what doea this mean...are we only going to lose by 23 to Illinois. We compete in the Big 10 conference you seem to thinks its perfectly acceptable that every team should beat Rutgers by 25
They won on the road and led wire to wire between 6-12 points. White did not even have a good game. Like I told you Nebraska goes 10 deep and could be a factor in the Big 10 if Shields and White play well.
As for Illinois they have better talent than we do and we will hang with them until they dominate in the paint. If they out score us by 25-30 in the paint , we really cannot stop that at this point.
 
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And if you remember Nebraska game Goode was on Shields and he penetrated and someone came to help. Wide open three and Nebraska made it. Goode should play 5 minutes.
 
So the scores of our games aren't facts?

Our record this year? And the last 2 years?

Yeah...let's ignore those FACTS!
 
So the scores of our games aren't facts?

Our record this year? And the last 2 years?

Yeah...let's ignore those FACTS!

What scores ? The scores when we are playing with no one taller than 6'4 or before? Last year as I said was a disappointment . Any team with Jack, Mack and Etou should have won more and that is on Eddie. But not now, we are just too depleted.
 
What scores ? The scores when we are playing with no one taller than 6'4 or before? Last year as I said was a disappointment . Any team with Jack, Mack and Etou should have won more and that is on Eddie. But not now, we are just too depleted.

Does our OOC record and play count?

Maybe we were too young and inexperienced for it to REALLY count, and the team would have naturally improved as the season went on.

Maybe improved some, but that is speculation.
Everyone has to make their own assessment of that.
 
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I loved Tom Young as coach, but even tom with 7 players would have no chance. I went to Nebraska game hoping no one gets in foul trouble.That is how bad it is, and even Shon Morris the announcer said it is hard to practice with 7 players.
 
Does our OOC record and play count?

Maybe we were too young and inexperienced for it to REALLY count, and the team would have naturally improved as the season went on.

Maybe some, but that is speculation.
Everyone has to make their own assessment of that.
Yeah we should have won some of those games, St. John's , Creighton, Wake Forest , and Monmouth. Should have competed better against Seton Hall, GW, and Clemson. Part of that is definitely on Eddie, but part is on the players to step up and play better. Williams cannot get 20 one night and 4 the next. Same for Daniels and Grier and Lewis. They all get plenty of shots to get at least double figures every game . DJ is the most frustrating since he has the moves to be a double double machine and just has to be more under control. I have never seen a team miss so many open layups or mostly uncontested ones. We easily beat Indiana if we make layups. Think about that. No Division 1 player should miss layups ...plenty of blame to go around, Eddie,, his staff, and the players
 
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Yeah we should have won some of those games, St. John's , Creighton, Wake Forest , and Monmouth. Should have competed better against Seton Hall, GW, and Clemson. Part of that is definitely on Eddie, but part is on the players to step up and play better. Williams cannot get 20 one night and 4 the next. Same for Daniels and Grier and Lewis. They all get plenty of shots to get at least double figures every game . DJ is the most frustrating since he has the moves to be a double double machine and just has to be more under control. I have never seen a team miss so many open layups or mostly uncontested ones. We easily beat Indiana if we make layups. Think about that. No Division 1 player should miss layups ...plenty of blame to go around, Eddie,, his staff, and the players

That's fair
Thanks for offering your opinion on the OOC performance.
That portion of the schedule is usually just dismissed by everyone giving Eddie a free pass on this part of the season when we currently have 7 healthy scholllies.

I have serious doubts about Eddie
But I have no say on whether or not he comes back next season

Let's see what happens when Laurent comes back, who commits in the Spring, and how we finish the season. Does the team give up, play hard, play smart, and look like they know what they are doing?
 
Just the fact that many are talking about bringing Eddie back for next season's illustrates what a losing mentality we have.

What other school would even give lip service to the possibility of bringing him back ?

If Eddie is brought back then we need to put the heat lamp on Pat Hobbs as AD.
 
Just the fact that many are talking about bringing Eddie back for next season's illustrates what a losing mentality we have.

What other school would even give lip service to the possibility of bringing him back ?

If Eddie is brought back then we need to put the heat lamp on Pat Hobbs as AD.
Calipari, Coach K, Roy, Self , or Boeheim, could not win this roster. You sound unintelligent and seem to lack 2 good eyes so you can actually watch !!!!
 
That's fair
Thanks for offering your opinion on the OOC performance.
That portion of the schedule is usually just dismissed by everyone giving Eddie a free pass on this part of the season when we currently have 7 healthy scholllies.

I have serious doubts about Eddie
But I have no say on whether or not he comes back next season

Let's see what happens when Laurent comes back, who commits in the Spring, and how we finish the season. Does the team give up, play hard, play smart, and look like they know what they are doing?
I agree. Eddie's Nba style does not appear to be working but we better see the team play hard , give effort, at least attempt to box out and rebound and try to defend. Mike and Corey have to step up their defense and demand Daniels try harder and Eddie has to demand Lewis if healthy and DJ slide their feet and play defense without fouling.
In the meantime watch the out of bounds plays and plays out of timeouts to see if the players are still listening to Eddie.
 
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Creighton loss was not bad, they beat Seton hall by like 15 points.
 
Calipari, Coach K, Roy, Self , or Boeheim, could not win this roster.

You are absolutely right about that. However, I do think we would be seeing a different product on the court. I will always support the team, coach included...but IMO Eddie has not shown the ability to effectively coach college players, and that is not based solely on the scoreboard, but more on developing players, emphasizing fundamentals, etc.
 
Creighton loss was not bad, they beat Seton hall by like 15 points.
Shields, not saying it was a bad loss , rather it was a winnable game and down the stretch we didn't coach or make the plays to win it. Creighton is a good team no doubt.
 
You are absolutely right about that. However, I do think we would be seeing a different product on the court. I will always support the team, coach included...but IMO Eddie has not shown the ability to effectively coach college players, and that is not based solely on the scoreboard, but more on developing players, emphasizing fundamentals, etc.
JOE, I really do not disagree. I think it is the NBA style that he tells people to rebound , play defense, get back in transition and automatically thinks they know what to do. They don't. They have to be shown, repeatedly practiced. Reinforced by his assistants that he doesn't let coach enough or they are incapable and not the right assistants .
I believe that is his biggest failure. He clearly knows basketball, played and coached it at the highest level. I drives me nuts sometimes. For those out there who didn't see Eddie play , he was not only a great pass first point guard he was a fabulous defender. Hard to believe how his players do not play defense which takes effort. Mind boggling.
 
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JOE, I really do not disagree. I think it is the NBA style that he tells people to rebound , play defense, get back in transition and automatically thinks they know what to do. They don't. They have to be shown, repeatedly practiced. Reinforced by his assistants that he doesn't let coach enough or they are incapable and not the right assistants .
I believe that is his biggest failure. He clearly knows basketball, played and coached it at the highest level. I drives me nuts sometimes. For those out there who didn't see Eddie play , he was not only a great pass first point guard he was a fabulous defender. Hard to believe how his players do not play defense which takes effort. Mind boggling.

Sounds like you have plenty of reasons to fire him as well. lol
 
Sounds like you have plenty of reasons to fire him as well. lol
My point to Bac and the others was that now is not the time to kill Eddie and the players because the roster is depleted. That doesn't stop us from having an intelligent conversation based on facts. Our team is really hurting right now and the supporters of this program should not pile dirt on the coach or the players at this time. Can we demand more, better coaching, better and smarter playing? Yes. But at the end of the day losing the points in the paint battle every night by 30 will not win you many games.
 
My point to Bac and the others was that now is not the time to kill Eddie and the players because the roster is depleted. That doesn't stop us from having an intelligent conversation based on facts. Our team is really hurting right now and the supporters of this program should not pile dirt on the coach or the players at this time. Can we demand more, better coaching, better and smarter playing? Yes. But at the end of the day losing the points in the paint battle every night by 30 will not win you many games.

The problem is that even with a full roster the W-L record is almost the same.

And of course these are Eddie's players, not holdovers from the previous coaching staff.
 
Culture.

The defense we would see on the court would have NO resemblance of what we see now.

I think Bishop Daniels would be a completely different offensive player.

I could be in a dreamworld
 
Culture.

The defense we would see on the court would have NO resemblance of what we see now.

I think Bishop Daniels would be a completely different offensive player.

I could be in a dreamworld
DANIELS would be a different player? You must be dreaming. Bishop has athleticism but he is lazy and doesn't rebound, go for loose balls 3 feet away. If he tried even a little and played under control like he has some games he could make a difference.
His strength is driving to the hole but even then he misses too many layups. Plus he is not a shooting 2 guard.
Eddie tried to send him a message early in the year keeping him on the bench the minute he drove into 2-3 guys and turned it over. Once we lost bodies he had nothing to threaten him with bc he had no players.
He has played under control at times but just needs to do more, score, defend, rebound , and dive for loose balls. He could help the rest of the way !
 
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