Matt Rhule and Mario Cristobal

[jonS]

Interesting that after the Missouri opening fizzled out Rhule's name hasn't been linked elsewhere. He's done a very nice job at Temple but you would think he'd jump at the first opportunity to leave for a Power 5 job. The fact that he's snubbed his nose at Rutgers speaks very little of him..Shame on him if he doesn't think Rutgers is step up.

Cristobal's name has been very quiet probably due to Saban's request that things be placed on hold until Alabama plays in the SEC championship game . Or is it because Rutgers is moving on?

 

[RUMBA-JK]

Fair chance that Rhule is busy preparing for Houston & Cristobal is busy as you said.

 

[derleider]

Interesting that after the Missouri opening fizzled out Rhule's name hasn't been linked elsewhere. He's done a very nice job at Temple but you would think he'd jump at the first opportunity to leave for a Power 5 job. The fact that he's snubbed his nose at Rutgers speaks very little of him..Shame on him if he doesn't think Rutgers is step up.

Cristobal's name has been very quiet probably due to Saban's request that things be placed on hold until Alabama plays in the SEC championship game . Or is it because Rutgers is moving on?

Im guessing that its something like Herman - no one is ready to give him a huge contract based on one year - so he will instead wait it out and see if he can get a huge contract next year.

 

[newell138]

How do you know he "snubbed his nose" at Rutgers???

 

[jonS]

How do you know he "snubbed his nose" at Rutgers???

I recall reading somewhere ( this Forum?) that he's not interested in the Rutgers opening....

 

[bryanjints]

I recall reading somewhere ( this Forum?) that he's not interested in the Rutgers opening....

That was probably from a temple fan. All 50 of their fans believe temple is equal or better than Rutgers in terms of the big picture.

 

[BaseballFan913]

I recall reading somewhere ( this Forum?) that he's not interested in the Rutgers opening....

obviously, this forum is the law and everything you read on the Internet is true.

 

[JHG722]

That was probably from a temple fan. All 50 of their fans believe temple is equal or better than Rutgers in terms of the big picture.

So explain to me why he didn't jump at the opportunity to coach Rutgers (and at this point, no one has).

 

[BuggsyRU]

So explain to me why he didn't jump at the opportunity to coach Rutgers (and at this point, no one has).

Because he hasn't been approached by rutgers. Can't jump at an opportunity until it's presented.

 

[BobRC72]

So explain to me why he didn't jump at the opportunity to coach Rutgers (and at this point, no one has).

You don't know that he hasn't.

 

[lyndj]

Interesting that after the Missouri opening fizzled out Rhule's name hasn't been linked elsewhere. He's done a very nice job at Temple but you would think he'd jump at the first opportunity to leave for a Power 5 job. The fact that he's snubbed his nose at Rutgers speaks very little of him..Shame on him if he doesn't think Rutgers is step up.

Cristobal's name has been very quiet probably due to Saban's request that things be placed on hold until Alabama plays in the SEC championship game . Or is it because Rutgers is moving on?

He did an interview in Philly and said he's not going anywhere. Said while it is hard with people throwing money at you, he and his family love Temple, love Philly and will be their coach next year. He said he asked his players if the NFL called would they have a problem with him talking to them and they said absolutely not. He said if teams call him he's going to be courteous but he's not interested right now. They reported he just signed an extension in June.

My personal opinion based on the interview is that he seems genuine and honest. He said they're reporting he's here and there when he's been in his office. Perhaps that's why you're no longer hearing much about him.

 

[JHG722]

You don't know that he hasn't.

Well I do, because it was reported privately that he signed his 2nd contract the other day.

 

[rurichdog]

Because he hasn't been approached by rutgers. Can't jump at an opportunity until it's presented.

So..."we never offered"?

 

[OriginalKnight]

I recall reading somewhere ( this Forum?) that he's not interested in the Rutgers opening....

Was it Mr. Television who told you that. If yes, I'm sure he's had at least two interviews with us so far.

 

[BuggsyRU]

So..."we never offered"?

Who knows? Don' think we are really interested in him, and don't think he is not interested in us.

 

[sultanofslot]

The fact that he's snubbed his nose at Rutgers speaks very little of him..Shame on him if he doesn't think Rutgers is step up.

Rhule is coaching for a spot in the Fiesta or Peach Bowl tomorrow. Has Rutgers ever been in that spot?

 

[hbbsm713]

Rhule is coaching for a spot in the Fiesta or Peach Bowl tomorrow. Has Rutgers ever been in that spot?

Yes.

Rutgers is a better job than temple. I seriously don't get how temple fans don't understand this.

 

[_dave_]

Well, not sure about Peach but Rutgers played for a spot in the Orange a couple of times. Obviously came up short each time.

 

[RutgersROB]

Rhule is coaching for a spot in the Fiesta or Peach Bowl tomorrow. Has Rutgers ever been in that spot?

Yes West Virginia in 2006 a double overtime loss and Lousiville in 2012 a loss that both cost us an outright Big East title and either the Sugar or Orange bowl

 

[jonS]

R

Rhule is coaching for a spot in the Fiesta or Peach Bowl tomorrow. Has Rutgers ever been in that spot?

Look-congrats to Temple and Rhule . They had a great year and Rhule did an excellent job. But if you think Temple is a better job than an opportunity at Rutgers you're kidding yourself. In so many ways (academic and athletic ) Rutgers is superior. It wasn't too many years ago that Temple was disinvited from the Big East in football. Get real......

 

[sherrane]

Well, not sure about Peach but Rutgers played for a spot in the Orange a couple of times. Obviously came up short each time.

Never for the Peach as that game has been SEC vs ACC since 1996 prior to it being added to the playoff rotation.

 

[Abro1975]

Ruhle would have been a safer, but more expensive hire than Ash. Cristobel probably equal in safety and cost.
What perplexes me is why wasn't Bob Diaco given any or more consideration. He has an extensive and highly touted record as def coord (2012 Asst Coach of the Year at ND) plus 2 years experience as HC of UConn getting them into a bowl in 2nd year, PLUS many years experience recruiting NJ and from NJ (all the HS coaches know him).

 

[BoroKnight]

That was probably from a temple fan. All 50 of their fans believe temple is equal or better than Rutgers in terms of the big picture.

It's not a matter of Temple being equal to or better than Rutgers in the big picture, what matters is a coach looking at his career. This place has been more graveyard than stepping stone, and a lot of people want no part of it.

I can't get angry or even mildly hostile toward a guy who would rather wait for a better job, or maybe his dream job, to open up.

 

[sodakboy93]

Ruhle would have been a safer, but more expensive hire than Ash. Cristobel probably equal in safety and cost.
What perplexes me is why wasn't Bob Diaco given any or more consideration. He has an extensive and highly touted record as def coord (2012 Asst Coach of the Year at ND) plus 2 years experience as HC of UConn getting them into a bowl in 2nd year, PLUS many years experience recruiting NJ and from NJ (all the HS coaches know him).

I thought Diaco would've been a good hire, but it's possible he just wasn't interested. Same with Ruhle and Cristobal.

The fact the top two rumored candidates where Chris Ash and Al Golden is a pretty good tell about how desirable the position was.

 

[jonS]

It's not a matter of Temple being equal to or better than Rutgers in the big picture, what matters is a coach looking at his career. This place has been more graveyard than stepping stone, and a lot of people want no part of it.

I can't get angry or even mildly hostile toward a guy who would rather wait for a better job, or maybe his dream job, to open up.

The idea of Rutgers being a coach's graveyard is an outdated narrative. It wasn't Schiano's graveyard as it landed him in the NFL. And it's worth noting that Meyer steered Ash away from Syracuse only to have him land at Rutgers. Presumably Urban Meyer looked at the Rutgers opening as an opportunity and not a "graveyard destination".

 

[RUforlife]

If Ash can put together a nice string of 8 or 9 win seasons at Rutgers he will get that big job. Rutgers is not a destination, but it is in no way a coaching graveyard. The coach who can lead us to a 3rd place finish in our division will be highly sought after.

 

[Ole Cabbagehead]

I can't see getting hung up on this. He may have approached RU, or RU may have approached him, but no one will ever know for sure but him and his agent. I suspect neither... but it really doesn't matter.

Temple fans have a great up and coming coach who they really hope stays. Anyone would. Of course they are going to be defensive about him leaving, and want to believe their guy when he says he is all in at Temple, and he is not going to jump for the next bigger job. They also have a right to be proud of their school for stepping up to make an effort to keep him home, which seems to be working so far.

It is a lot like Schiano during his rise up, I remember being afraid he would leave for a big job, and also remember being thrilled when he said he wanted to be Rutgers version of Joe Paterno (back when that was a good thing) and all of us really had the feeling like Schiano loved Rutgers and didn't want to go anywhere else. Of course Schiano ultimately got an opportunity that was too big to turn down (or too big for his ego to turn down, at least), but that's the way it goes. The good vibes eventually wane, and coaches eventually get bored. If they are driven enough to succeed at this level, it is only natural.

 

[derleider]

It's not a matter of Temple being equal to or better than Rutgers in the big picture, what matters is a coach looking at his career. This place has been more graveyard than stepping stone, and a lot of people want no part of it.

I can't get angry or even mildly hostile toward a guy who would rather wait for a better job, or maybe his dream job, to open up.

I doubt iits about that.

Look at Herman - Houston signed him to a $2.8 million contract. Now Herman himself probably thinks hes worth $4 mlilion plus like McElwain got from Florida. So he COULD take say $3.2 million from Rutgers, and hope he can turn it around and turn it into $4 million. Or he could take $2.8 million from Houston, have an easier time of having a good year next year, and get the $4 million contract next year.

Basically - the most likely scenario is that Rhule thinks he is worth more than Rutgers (or MD, or Missouri) were willing to offer based on his one good year and so he decided to stay put, have another strong season (he hopes) and then move on to a better job.

But this is the difference between Temple and RU. Rutgers might one day have to fight off offers for ASh - but we have the money to do it unless its Texas or Alabama or OSU calling. Temple doesnt have that money. Rhule, provided he doesnt flame out - will leave. Herman ill leave Houston. Its just the nature of being a G5 team

 

[rutgersguy1]

Rhule just signed a 6 yr deal with a pay raise according to Joe Schad, no details yet though. I never wanted him so it's fine with me.

BTW Muschamp got a deal averaging over 3M. He's a failed coach, not sure I would have paid him that much but these days ADs love to throw around money. Pay him after he shows some results.

 

[Underdogs88]

Rhule is coaching for a spot in the Fiesta or Peach Bowl tomorrow. Has Rutgers ever been in that spot?

Congrats on a great season. I hope you will enjoy the Marmot Boca Raton Bowl.

 

[scarletrat]

vs Toledo...and I thought RU got hosed in 2006...

 

[urbanecane]

As others have said, this isn't a Rutgers v. Temple debate. This is a do I accept Rutgers now or gamble on a bigger job becoming available in a few years. I don't necessarily blame him. If he truly is a great coach he will kill it a Temple for a few more seasons, get a PSU-esque offer and have all the resources and talent necessary to make some serious noise.

 

[rulaw87]

Congrats on a great season. I hope you will enjoy the Marmot Boca Raton Bowl.

So glad we got off the Island of Misfit Toys.

 

[sherrane]

vs Toledo...and I thought RU got hosed in 2006...

Yes. Temple's reward for losing the AAC Championship Game and being ranked #24 is to play the #3 MAC team in the home stadium of a Sun Belt team (FAU). Ah, fond memories of being in that conference.

 

[BuggsyRU]

Ruhle would have been a safer, but more expensive hire than Ash. Cristobel probably equal in safety and cost.
What perplexes me is why wasn't Bob Diaco given any or more consideration. He has an extensive and highly touted record as def coord (2012 Asst Coach of the Year at ND) plus 2 years experience as HC of UConn getting them into a bowl in 2nd year, PLUS many years experience recruiting NJ and from NJ (all the HS coaches know him).

He is already making 1.5mm from UCONN. If we would have offered the same 2mm, UConn would have matched or beaten that. We would have had to pay 2.5 to 3 mm for Diaco, and he hasn't done enough to warrant that. He made a TON of bad mistakes his first year, and even this year. Probably should have been better than 6-6, if not for curious punt-fake decision against Missouri that cost them the game.....and other gameday coaching gaffes.

Plus, the whole contrived Rivalry trophy game against a team (UCF) that had no idea what he was talking about. Just weird.

 

[JHG722]

Matt Rhule: $2.5M a year
Chris Ash: $2M a year
Matt Rhule $4M buyout before he signed his new contract
Chris Ash: $600,000 buyout

 

[rutgersdave]

RHULE and Temple are 10-3 with two good wins against Penn State and Memphis. Good year but maybe not great. I'm still concerned about RHULE recruiting abilities , mostly 2 stars recruits with only 2 3 star recruits.

 

[BuggsyRU]

Matt Rhule: $2.5M a year
Chris Ash: $2M a year
Matt Rhule $4M buyout before he signed his new contract
Chris Ash: $600,000 buyout

No, Ash's buyout is 600K per year for every year left on his contract (5 years), so it starts at $3M, then is reduced by 600K after the completion of each season.

Nice try!

 

[JHG722]

RHULE and Temple are 10-3 with two good wins against Penn State and Memphis. Good year but maybe not great. I'm still concerned about RHULE recruiting abilities , mostly 2 stars recruits with only 2 3 star recruits.

http://sports.yahoo.com/uab/football/recruiting/player-Tyler-Matakevich-125442
https://rivals.yahoo.com/temple/football/recruiting/player-Matt-Ioannidis-117829
https://rivals.yahoo.com/uab/football/recruiting/player-Tavon-Young-121618
https://rivals.yahoo.com/uab/football/recruiting/player-Kyle-Friend-129888
https://rivals.yahoo.com/uab/football/recruiting/player-Jahad-Thomas-145553
https://rivals.yahoo.com/uab/football/recruiting/player-P.J.-Walker-118288
https://rivals.yahoo.com/uab/football/recruiting/player-Sharif-Finch-136914
https://rivals.yahoo.com/uab/football/recruiting/player-Dion-Dawkins-144305

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