Just wanted to let you know that we have had three kids transfer out of the program for the upcoming season. Jr G Liam Donnelly has transferred to Utah. Jt M Josh Jordan has transferred to UMBC and Freshman Nick Attanasio has transferred to Salisbury. Liam's transfer was precipitated by Max getting that 6th year and he will certainly be missed (however I have heard that we did land at transfer from NCCC). It has been a very active and productive summer for Coach Bracht as he has had to replace his entire staff, and he has, in my opinion upgraded in every area. Plus the addition of Kamish and Massessa have put this team in a great position to move up even further in the rankings.
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As a high school QB, Attanasio shined in a big game versus a terrific Westfield HS team. I was super impressed with him as an athlete. Sorry to see him leave. I hope it isn’t simply a matter of being impatient. Multi-sport athletes often shine at lacrosse once they focus on the sport. It’s not like he is bolting from a team that does not have a future. I wish him the best though.
D3 requires no less from these guys. Extremely, extremely demanding.
Very much depends on the D3. There are probably 3-4 programs in D3 that are run with expectations of D1, though I am not even sure they really are. Some D3's are basically club teams. In fact, most of them are.
I cant speak to the differences in Lacrosse from D-1 to D-3, but I would think you are correct.
D-1 Wrestling is on another stratosphere than D-3 wrestling....And a buddy said the same thing about Baseball.
I was being generous. The talent level isn’t just the difference. So are expectations and time.
Absolutely not true. The expectations & time are identical. My grandson played D3 with a school in Ohio in the same conference as Denison, Ohio Weselyan,etc. They demand every bit as much as much of their players as D1 programs do. My grandson & team mates played traveling lacrosse with many guys who went D1 & they often compared notes. Absolutely no difference in what was demanded at each level. Overall difference in size, speed & generally skill level, but not in the demands put on the athletes.
Leaving the talent discussion aside, the time commitment in D3 isn't as great as in D1...D1 like all D1 sports is a huge commitment. Time commitment is incredible as you can see that programs all over the country are dialing up fall ball as we speak (which is exciting by the way)...I've talked with many D3 kids and along with coaches, they all admit that D3 is a different animal...
Maybe it can be program dependent...I don't know any kids in the elite D3 programs, but comparing notes in some programs, it's a lighter schedule than D1...again from the people and some coaches I have interacted with over the years...
Maybe it can be program dependent...I don't know any kids in the elite D3 programs, but comparing notes in some programs, it's a lighter schedule than D1...again from the people and some coaches I have interacted with over the years...
You're absolutely wrong. You don't think D3 programs are dialing up fall ball? Wrong. Huge commitment at the D3 schools in that Ohio conference I spoke of. You don't think that Salisbury requires a Huge commitment. Wrong.
I know all D3's play fall ball. Any D3 sport requires a commitment...just stated that the people I've talked to that have been involved and around note that the time commitment/requirement is larger as n D1...are their outliers, I guess so since your data speaks different than what I've heard from players. Both can actually be right
Like I said, do not have personal knowledge of Lacrosse...But the time commitment for D-1 wrestling compared to D-3 is not even close. I suspect that is the case with almost all sports.
We can agree to disagree. D3 kids I know barely had to show up for practice if they chose not to. It's basically a club sport.
Now, back in the day there were a few that could compete with D1's. Namely Hobart before they went D1 and Washington and Lee. But then the 90's came and that all changed.
The best D1 program now would lose by 15 goals to any top 20 team.
Now, back in the day there were a few that could compete with D1's. Namely Hobart before they went D1 and Washington and Lee. But then the 90's came and that all changed.
The best D1 program now would lose by 15 goals to any top 20 team.
Well don't know who those kids were, but they weren't my grandson, his team mates or guys on all the D3 programs I know of & I know of a very great many. One of my sons played D1 lacrosse & his nephew D3. The demands & time requirements were the same to say the least. The D3 programs require it all & then some. I know this from first hand experience. I agreed that they couldn't compete on the field. This discussion was about the requirements & demands.
I spoke to someone very close to this and he will be good to go for the spring. The fall scrimmages will be against UMass and Navy so that should be a good test
Man I hope AC is back to form because he is a difference maker. Best wishes to him and the whole team to stay healthy in the Fall and into the Spring.
I can’t speak for lacrosse but I can for baseball. The time commitment was as much or more in D3 baseball. I played at Montclair ST in the college World Series and had friends who played at Rutgers. Time commitment was the same. We also beat Rutgers head to head in a scrimmage. Talent was close. The main difference was depth in starting pitching. RU had more and would have beaten us in a three game series. The team I was on had multiple guys get drafted.
Did you tangle with Cortland? Played there a century ago.They've been to the World Series consistently over the last couple of decades. Won it all a few years ago. Know they used to play Montclair in the fall.
Yes. Cortland St was a very good program when I was at Montclair. A guy I played with my freshman year transferred to Cortland and he is now the preeminent pitching coach is the country at Vanderbilt.
Just heard another interesting roster ‘tidbit. Face off specialist Alex Schoen has been granted a sixth year of eligibility and will be suiting up for the Scarlet knights in 2019. This certainly helps an area that was going to be inexperienced next year and there may be even more help down the road.
Rick, when I was at Cortland we played Cornell, Colgate, Syracuse, Fordham, NYU & other D1 programs. Generally won 50% or better of the games. We had some very good pitchers in those days & a half dozen position players who could have played anywhere. I'm talking 1960-1964.
The time commitment in a pure sense may be the same. However, the competition and lack of wiggle room isn't even close. If a stud midfielder at D3 misses practice for whatever reason, there isn't anyone behind him that is close in talent and frothing at the mouth to take his spot. That makes the pressure day in and day out different. There is also the reality that the kids at D3 can bust their ass in fall ball, focus on school in the winter, then show up for spring practice in Feb. At D1, fall ball ends, then the hard work begins , then spring practice, then summer work - the real work - gets going. It's a 12-month time commitment vs. a 6-8 month time commitment.
Well, you're wrong. What you describe for D1 is exactly what takes place in D3. It's year round also with guys ready to take your place. In addition, most D3 athletes take a full course load, with no tutors, many at very demanding institutions. I will say though, that in my grandson's case the number of overnights was limited. Most away games were done in one day, but often with many a late night arrival home.
At least speaking for myself, I am coming from a very informed opinion on the two levels of competition (in a bunch of different ways). I think you're reading our commentary as D3 has "no time commitment" as opposed to it's just not as rigorous. Fact is, you won't be convinced, which doesn't make you right or wrong it just makes you rooted in your stance. Which is fine. Our opinions that the differences between the two levels - on the whole - being so difference in no way diminishes what goes on at a D3 school.
Good God, Rudad02....everyone is wrong about D1 vs D3 cause you have knowledge of your grandson....Yea you are correct D1 athletes spend the same time as non scholarship D3 athletes in their sports. Multiple posters have said it is not the same but keep beating the drum.
Well multiple posters are dead wrong regarding D3 lacrosse.
Not exactly sure what your point is. However it clearly is as rigorous maybe more so inasmuch as many athletes take full loads. Ask the athletes at RIT, Tufts, denison, kenyon, wooster, ohio weselyn, gettysburg, williams, amherst, middlebury, weselyn, dickinson, haverford, washington & lee, franklin & marshall, oberlin, stevens, & so many more about the demands & rigors of their programs. As I have noted, I had son in D1 & a gandson in D3, & know many players from each level. If you & others want to persist in your beliefs, please do so. There is clearly nothing I can say to persuade or inform you.
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