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If they can’t they can’t but that’s on Pike as OP said he has got to recruit better players and guys that can shoot Mulcahy going to be good but nit a good shooter
 
You guys are way off. Our players are decent. If you don't like them than follow another team. We hung with Michigan State on the road for almost the entire game and they are the # 11 team in the country and were rated # 1 when the season started. Not every player is perfect every game. We only had 11 turnovers tonight. If you cannot see the improvement Steve has brought to RU in 3 years plus 9 games you are lost. Some of you must live your lives to be critical.
 
Nothing wrong with our players -- but they need an alpha dog to lead the pack. We don't have that

Was just thinking this. We need that emotional leader that just pumps up the team. Sometimes you just need someone like Corey who carries the team on their back. And even if the guy had a bad game, I wouldn't put it past him to make a game winning shot. (And as much as I dislike Eugene for leaving, he always had that intense shrug attitude thing going when he got on a roll.)

Geo has shown flashes of that over his career, but he's also had his fair share of slumps. He's gotta fake it till he makes it. I think sometimes he's too unselfish and accommodating. I don't see his crossover, pull-up shot as much anymore. He needs to go for that or drive hard like Corey used to do, so that the defender has to respect one or the other. Find his go-to offensive move(s) and perfect it.
 
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You guys are way off. Our players are decent. If you don't like them than follow another team. We hung with Michigan State on the road for almost the entire game and they are the # 11 team in the country and were rated # 1 when the season started. Not every player is perfect every game. We only had 11 turnovers tonight. If you cannot see the improvement Steve has brought to RU in 3 years plus 9 games you are lost. Some of you must live your lives to be critical.
Your response would have relevance if Rutgers didn't have a long track record of losing .Its nor about liking or disliking Pikiell but rather winning and losing.Rutgers has now lost 2 games against St.Bonaventure and Pitt which will impact the ability for a winning season.Ignoring the obvious problems with scoring won't change the results.All fans want this program to be successful but that requires a sense of urgency that is lacking.The B1G is a powerful conference that isn't going to lay down in football and basketball to allow Rutgers to catch up.
 
You guys are way off. Our players are decent. If you don't like them than follow another team. We hung with Michigan State on the road for almost the entire game and they are the # 11 team in the country and were rated # 1 when the season started. Not every player is perfect every game. We only had 11 turnovers tonight. If you cannot see the improvement Steve has brought to RU in 3 years plus 9 games you are lost. Some of you must live your lives to be critical.
To be fair coach MSU sleep walks through their games against us. Much like we often play down against lower level teams. MSU always does just enough to win. The games are always ugly. They let us hang around and then finish it in the end. I see no improvement in this team vs last year. In fact I think Baker has regressed. And Johnson.
 
Johnson was 14 and 14 I believe vs Pitt. Foul trouble yesterday.
 
I think if we want to continue to climb the ladder we need a combination of continued development of the current roster and bringing in higher caliber player who will continue to create additional competition for playing time. I think like most coaches, he has had hits and misses in both areas. Got to minimize the misses to win more conference games than we lose.

With the new practice facility I think it is reasonable to expect an uptick in recruiting. Not clear that has happened yet.
 
You guys are way off. Our players are decent. If you don't like them than follow another team. We hung with Michigan State on the road for almost the entire game and they are the # 11 team in the country and were rated # 1 when the season started. Not every player is perfect every game. We only had 11 turnovers tonight. If you cannot see the improvement Steve has brought to RU in 3 years plus 9 games you are lost. Some of you must live your lives to be critical.
I wonder how many times this has been posted over the last 29 years.
 
To be fair coach MSU sleep walks through their games against us. Much like we often play down against lower level teams. MSU always does just enough to win. The games are always ugly. They let us hang around and then finish it in the end. I see no improvement in this team vs last year. In fact I think Baker has regressed. And Johnson.
brad, I agree with the first part, that MSU played down to us somewhat, and they turned it on when they needed to.

As far as regressing as a team, I think it’s too early to tell, mainly because this is a different team. I actually think we’re making progress, but it’s not a linear progression from the end of last year because our leading scorer, rebounder and defensive anchor left a year early.

Pike had to change his approach to this season, opting to run more with Young, changing Geo’s role, and looking for Yeboah to replace Gene’s inside presence with outside scoring. Those are 3 significant changes from last year, which makes us a work in progress.

That said, I believe by this season’s end we will be a better team with a better (over .500) record vs last year.
 
Last nights game doesn't matter if we lost by 1 pt 11 pts or 50 pts. It's still a loss as EJ team was a loss. For you guys is it just seeing improvement to be almost get to .500? Are you satisfied the next 3 years seeing this team hover around .500? I think we should more than this after 4 years. This isn't football. Maybe Hurley was right. This is a 7 year process cause right now it doesn't look like any NCAA for at least 2 years.
 
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Nothing wrong with our players -- but they need an alpha dog to lead the pack. We don't have that

Agree, we need a star recruit that can score, this will open up the court so much more for the players we have. I like our players, think we have a good group, just need that one "star" player to make the team complete. Cliff O. would be a great addition down low, and if another stud scorer would come then we can go. Easier said then done. But other teams get them, we need to.
 
Last nights game doesn't matter if we lost by 1 pt 11 pts or 50 pts. It's still a loss as EJ team was a loss. For you guys is it just seeing improvement to be almost get to .500? Are you satisfied the next 3 years seeing this team hover around .500? I think we should more than this after 4 years. This isn't football. Maybe Hurley was right. This is a 7 year process cause right now it doesn't look like any NCAA for at least 2 years.
 
Yeboah stat line.

25 minutes
6 of 9 from floor
2-3 from 3
3 of 3 from FT line
4 boards
1 assist

I am not sure your going to get a more efficient contribution by barely touching the ball.

The game plan for games like these, are to make your 3rd and 4th options beat you. There were 4 to 5 lost possessions where we passed to Carter or Doucoure in the post and fumbled the ball away or came up empty.

I am not saying Yeboah is better suited in the post, but if RU is going to improve from now through March, they have to get Harper post touches, Yeboah clean looks and let the others find shots.

MSU got 77 points, RU isn't built to get 80 points on the road to win a game vs MSU.

I think RU will play better at home most of the season and if we get half of the Young production like last night, RU will be much better in B1G play.
 
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...and that is the problem. No hockey substitutions so every lineup combination helps us one place, but hurts us in another.

We can't compete defensively without Young and/or Mathis. We don't get good lucks with Young dominating the ball. Put Young off the ball on offense and he doesn't have a lot of use. Put Mulcahy as your point guard and you HAVE to HAVE at least Mathis or Young as a defensive balance and unless you aren't playing a center you only have 2 perimeter players.

Unfortunately, TODAY, there are roster flaws that, to me, prevent us from moving out of the bottom quartile of the league. It is imperative Harper and Baker step up their games on BOTH sides of the court AND Caleb regains/gains confidence in his outside shot.. Myles has to stay out of foul trouble.

I just feel for us to succeed we really have to thread the needle.
 
It's pretty simple. Stop picking on our players. They are all solid players with various strengths and weaknesses. Until we get a true #1 option we are going to struggle vs the better teams. We really haven't had one since Douby. Mitchell was close the first year under Rice. If we had a true go to guy it would open it up for the rest of the players.
 
Last nights game doesn't matter if we lost by 1 pt 11 pts or 50 pts. It's still a loss as EJ team was a loss. For you guys is it just seeing improvement to be almost get to .500? Are you satisfied the next 3 years seeing this team hover around .500? I think we should more than this after 4 years. This isn't football. Maybe Hurley was right. This is a 7 year process cause right now it doesn't look like any NCAA for at least 2 years.
Sadly,regardless of sport kicking the can down the road,and it takes time and patience have been the mantra of a segment of the Rutgers fan base while the losing has continued.No sense of urgency and understanding on its impact on recruiting.
 
You guys are way off. Our players are decent. If you don't like them than follow another team. We hung with Michigan State on the road for almost the entire game and they are the # 11 team in the country and were rated # 1 when the season started. Not every player is perfect every game. We only had 11 turnovers tonight. If you cannot see the improvement Steve has brought to RU in 3 years plus 9 games you are lost. Some of you must live your lives to be critical.

I don’t know what you’re watching . This team stinks right now
 
You guys are way off. Our players are decent. If you don't like them than follow another team. We hung with Michigan State on the road for almost the entire game and they are the # 11 team in the country and were rated # 1 when the season started. Not every player is perfect every game. We only had 11 turnovers tonight. If you cannot see the improvement Steve has brought to RU in 3 years plus 9 games you are lost. Some of you must live your lives to be critical.
The old “go follow another team” nonsense. So typical and weak. Call me crazy but we don’t have enough fans to chase anyone away for pointing out the obvious.

I’m getting awfully close to suggesting you stick to Scarletknights.com and the Twitter accounts of Recco and Lorincz if you don’t want to read anything negative.
 
A go to guy is needed, we have the complimentary players. Geo has become to passive on O
 
Or we need a coach that can make players better. Haven’t seen significant improvement in anyone under Pike.
Wrong. Just to start - Eugene, Baker, Corey, McConnell, Harper (yes....did you watch the chubby kid who just shot 3’s in HS?), etc

As mentioned in this thread, we need that one stud (at least) to go to in crunch time.
 
Has Geo Baker gotten better since he was a freshman?

Yes. Can control the offense, defends MUCH better, and can get to the rim easier and with both his left and right hand. Has his three point shot gotten better? Probably not, but there is a lot he does better and more confidently now than he did as a freshman.
 
i think we win both games this week at home..guys played decent at michigan state and coming home against two good opponents will give us and our fans some juice..we always play better at home and I think we will see our guys and Pike put up our best effort in both games...most important week of the year.
 
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