New Starting line up....Jwill 6th man
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Well, we are playing at a bit higher pace, which will account for some of it.
Just comparing last year to this year, though:
FGA allowed has gone from 56.2 to 66.2 and 3PA allowed have gone from 22.2 to 23.9. We're allowing more buckets closer to the basket - which makes sense without Omoruyi back there.
Interestingly, we're taking about the same number of shots (from 60.2 to 60.5) but we're making a lot more of them (23.4 to 28.0 FG)... and we're taking/making more FTs.
Once again I’m in the minority, if not the only person, who thinks that whatever starting lineups the coaching staff go with are invariably the best ones in theory before the game, and that the coaches will, more often than not, adjust things in the best ways possible as the game evolves and they see how things are going.
I shouldn’t have to state this, but I’m not saying the coaching staff are perfect and don’t make mistakes. Just that they are better at it than any of us, and by a really really large margin.
I don’t spend much time second guessing the coaches. I spend more time wishing the players were having better games, when things don’t go our way. But the other teams are also fighting to win, and moving their pieces around the board the whole game too. Stuff doesn’t always work out.
I shouldn’t have to state this, but I’m not saying the coaching staff are perfect and don’t make mistakes. Just that they are better at it than any of us, and by a really really large margin.
I don’t spend much time second guessing the coaches. I spend more time wishing the players were having better games, when things don’t go our way. But the other teams are also fighting to win, and moving their pieces around the board the whole game too. Stuff doesn’t always work out.
I get your point and don’t really disagree. But to be accurate, there actually is a possible way. It’s just really unlikely, in his case at least. 😉
Also, more seriously, I see him improving on D all the time. Improvement is rarely linear, especially with younger athletes. So there are gonna be ups and downs. No pun intended.
That is point per possession data...I am sure the actual points per game is a bit more than 9. I took last years adjusted PPP and this yers PPP and slapped 73 possessions and it was 9 points per game,
He’s outperformed all expectations. If you don’t think so then that’s on you for expecting more from a fringe top 100 recruit in his freshman season.
My expectations were not high and I don’t think he’s exceeded or met them.
I think the positive commentary on lathan (there are some positives) is less performance based and more so a fan base so starved for positives that positives are being hunted and overvalued.
Though I’m not ruling out future sommerville success at all.
8 points, 8 rebounds and 3 assists in 31 total minutes is nothing to write home about from our Senior Captain.
Especially on a night where we needed him to step up in Dylan’s absence. We needed him to step up and steer the ship last night on offense and he didn’t come close to doing that.
J Will played completely out of control last night. Falling all over the floor, dribbling straight into multiple defenders and overly aggressive on defense multiple times (which he’s done all year).
His defense is okay - imo people think it’s much better than it really is because almost everyone else on the team can’t play defense.
Again he’s absolutely outperformed all expectations based on being a borderline top 100 recruit. If you don’t think so then idk what you’re watching. He’s the least of our problems.
I'm not turning on JWill. I think he is our most important player after Dylan and Ace. The best way to get him going is putting the ball in his hands. He can likely get that role as 6th man. This also puts Acuff as a starter where he is better suited as a 2 guard/ spot up shooter.
The only realy hope is that Ace has now figured it out more in terms of scoring and he and Dylan dominate every game and combine for 60ish points
Everyone commits to team defense and team rebounding
3's start to fall from the supporting cast
Everyone commits to team defense and team rebounding
3's start to fall from the supporting cast
The problem with getting the ball in his hands is the ball doesn’t come out in a better situation. It gets stuck there. Ball movement stops with jwill. This is not a new phenomenon. It was the same last year. He is not a good passer and an even worse finisher at the rim. He usually makes up for it with intensity and hustle. But his role has changed. He needs to sacrifice at the offensive side of the floor and be a leader. He hasn’t shown to be willing to do so.
You use very little energy catching and shooting and making 3s. You use a ton of energy doing things with a dribble or off the ball. Can we expect Dylan and Ace to score 50 points while the opposing defense is throwing everything at them and still have them have the proper energy to defend all while playing 36 minutes each?
ANSWER: NO
This is where you lose credibility, is Ace the only change to the team from last year?
Jwill plays out of control too often . He envisions himself as someone he can never be. Under control I believe he can contribute.
No….ace is a small part of it from an entire year prespective. I think loss of Cliff is a huge part
Ace hasnt been that bad most of the year on D
That was more of a response that the rest of the team was to blame for our problems (not Ace and Dylan)
Change from last full year to this partial year:
Rutgers
PPG: 65.4 to 79.7
FGA: 60.2 to 60.5
FGM: 23.4 to 28.0
3PM: 5.5 to 7.0
FTA: 19.8 to 23.4
FTM: 13.0 to 16.7
TRB: 37.1 to 37.0
AST: 11.8 to 14.4
STL: 7.7 to 7.2
TOV: 11.4 to 10.7
Opponents
PPG: 66.5 to 74.3
FGA: 56.2 to 62.2
FGM: 22.9 to 27.5
3PM: 7.3 to 8.2
FTA: 19.3 to 16.9
FTM: 13.5 to 11.2
TRB: 39.6 to 36.1
AST: 12.6 to 13.3
STL: 6.6 to 5.5
TOV: 14.9 to 12.5
Overall, we're more efficient scoring this year, but so are our opponents. We're taking about the same number of shots per game as last year, but we're making 4.6 more of them. Our opponents are taking 6 more shots per game and making 4.6 of them.
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JWill and for some f**cking reason, Davis take the ball out of Dylan’s hands when they’re on the floor with him. I mean what are we doing here? What is this coaching nonsense? They both need to be 2nd unit.
I doubt opponents would allow Bailey and Harper to score 60 points when they know they are the only double digit scorers.Teams will double team them causing turnovers or forcing them to pass the ball to a team mate who will miss a 3 pointer.How the team plays in the next 3 home games could also impact future scoring as to their motivation if the team keeps losing games and post season tournament selection seems unlikely.
Yeah look at the play on the foul shot early in the game Derkack just went under the rim didn’t put a body on his man th box out and the rebound went right to the Indiana guy
Just poor and he gets beat way too easily on defense
Don't get the hate for Lathan. He is a true frosh center with no weight room time who can put the ball in the hoop already. That kid is going to grow into a monster in 2 years. I only hope we are able to afford to keep him.
He looked exhausted out there by the end. That airball 3 was evidence his legs were done. NBA talent, college frosh fitness.
He played lots of minutes, was often double and triple teamed, and was the sole RU player who could find ways to score lots of points. Tough to do that as a freshman while playing great defense the whole time. I agree he looked exhausted and he earned his exhaustion, IMO.
I don't have any problem with how he's progressed so far this season. I just hope he and Dylan can ignore all the know-nothing morons on social media who rain negativity on them.
1,2 - Dylan, JMike - interchangable
3 - Ace
4 - Sommervile
5 - Ogbole
Off Bench
JWill
Derkack
Next
PJ
Acuff in an emergency
3 - Ace
4 - Sommervile
5 - Ogbole
Off Bench
JWill
Derkack
Next
PJ
Acuff in an emergency
I dont get it either. He is our 3rd best player and we under utilize him on offense
I don't think there is any real hate for him. I just push back when people say he should be playing more. He's been all you'd hope for a young big, but its not at a level where much more of him would be a good thing. I have a weird feeling he's gone after this year though. I hope not.
(1) this is like the opposite of what Greene thinks or says
(2) obviously the more a player gives you on the offensive end the more you tolerate them being a detriment on the defensive end. You act like this is weird but it’s just obviously true
Man this ****ing guy has a lot of nerve calling people “fake fans” for saying people’s defense is bad when he spent the first half of last season earnestly insisting the offense wasn’t bad.
What kind of ****ing “agenda” did you need to have to come up with that moronic take?
While this is mostly true, I don’t think it’s true in all cases.
For example NFL coaches used to make egregious 4th down strategy errors all the time.
It’s a lot less work to pick out an error than it is to not make any errors. Someone who would have no hope of holding a candle to Pike as a coach can still conceivably identify an error he is making.
Hawk who would still try and tell us that last years team was better with Gavin Griffiths and Noah Fernandez eating up minutes and how we didn’t miss Cam Spencer or Paul Mulcahy LOL.
He might be a “real” fan but his takes are so horrid they’re almost not funny haha.
Davis has played very unselfishly of late and does not take the ball out of Dylan's hands. If anything, he's been an asset to Dylan unless you want Dylan to go one on one every single time down the floor.
NJH is a good fan and i like reading what he says. He is very supportive of current players (95% of time) which has him making statements that are head scratching about past players.
It's literally impossible to for someone to be able to score as a 5 man, unless there is a commitment to provide opportunities to score by passing the 5 man the ball.
You can't have it both ways, a wing or guard can create their own offense on the perimeter.
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