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New trend of players sitting out bowl games to prepare for the NFL draft

So hypothetically speaking let's pretend Ash got us some game changing talent on both sides of the ball and our success was obviously directly related to their junior year contributions.
We go 9 and 3, miss out on the B1G Ten championship game and the playoffs, but are in line for a very good bowl.
The players Ash recruited are highly regarded by NFL scouts...as a donating, season ticket holder, you would have zero problem with it if they decided to not risk injury in an "exhibition game" that's of high quality?
I'm not asking you if you'd understand, I'm asking you if as a fan would it possibly compromise your level of commitment in supporting the program?
Answer to your question I might not like it but at the end of the day know g that it's a business decision I wouldn't have a problem.
 
You guys are arguing over a question that has no right or wrong answer

That's true. There is no answer. I would probably play. However, I understand why someone wouldn't play. If it wasn't for that stupid rule that keeps them in college 3 years, McCaffrey would be in the NFL already and preparing to play the Jets this weekend.
 
That graph doesn't measure health.
You keep pretending like you want to talk about this topic, but all you are saying is that your opinion is right and anyone else disagreeing is wrong because of whatever you reason you come up with at the time.

That graph is quite literally the entire argument. If the graph instead showed nothing but a perfectly horizontal line going across, we wouldn't be having this discussion.
 
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Answer to your question I might not like it but at the end of the day know g that it's a business decision I wouldn't have a problem.
And that substantial yearly donation I make based upon some dream of mine that we'd become an 8-4 type team, led by a sure fire NFL star is also business.
 
Do you understand the insurance isn't free?? And incredibly expensive. Doesn't cover potential income. And in the end if you recover you have the choice of trying to play and giving up the insurance payout. Or taking the payout and not allowed to play at all?

The insurance is only offered to certain players. As for the cost. The cost of insurance is deferred. None of them require payment while you are still in college. If everything goes as planned and no injury, you pay what would have been the monthly premiums after you sign your NFL contract. The policies are now getting more complex and can be for a significant amount of money. Some players will take out one if a injury knocks them out of a high round. Others pay out only if you never play in the NFL...
 
So hypothetically speaking let's pretend Ash got us some game changing talent on both sides of the ball and our success was obviously directly related to their junior year contributions.
We go 9 and 3, miss out on the B1G Ten championship game and the playoffs, but are in line for a very good bowl.
The players Ash recruited are highly regarded by NFL scouts...as a donating, season ticket holder, you would have zero problem with it if they decided to not risk injury in an "exhibition game" that's of high quality?
I'm not asking you if you'd understand, I'm asking you if as a fan would it possibly compromise your level of commitment in supporting the program?

I would have zero problem with that.
 
The bowl game isn't part of the commitment the player makes. It isn't on the schedule. The conference championship and the playoff have strict conditions that are applicable but the lesser bowl games are outside of that. Bowl sponsors send invitations that the athletic department can accept or reject to play in an exhibition. It is a new agreement and the player can choose to reject it as well. It is outside of the commitment they made. Good on the players for realizing their right to say no.
Of coarse a bowl game will not be on the schedule at the beginning of the year. But he and his team mates earned an invitation. It is the reward for the hard work they put in together. And now he is bailing on the game, but more importantly his team.

Total technicality BS wanna be excuse right there.
 
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Of coarse a bowl game will not be on the schedule at the beginning of the year. But he and his team mates earned an invitation. It is the reward for the hard work they put in together. And now he is bailing on the game, but more importantly his team.

Total technicality BS wanna be excuse right there.

It is additional workload to the preset agreement. Calling it a reward is your interpretation. I don't call uncompensated overtime a reward.
 
It sure isn't about my getting all excited over our team performing at a high level relative to what we're used to, only to see our star player bail out.
Seems we are on same page as per these guys playing or not playing bowl games.

But I don't see a donation tied to dreams of a bowl game as a business transaction.
 
Seems we are on same page as per these guys playing or not playing bowl games.

But I don't see a donation tied to dreams of a bowl game as a business transaction.
That Dream is the sole reason I donate and retain my tickets. I am not an Alum, I'm dumb enough to believe if our sure fire NFL difference making player beat another top 20 team in an "exhibition bowl" which is apparently the new term around here if you don't make the playoffs, it would spur great interest and inspire other talents to come here.
Not to mention, contributing to a win for other players on the team not as gifted could cherish for the rest of their lives
 
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That Dream is the sole reason I donate and retain my tickets. I am not an Alum, I'm dumb enough to believe if our sure fire NFL difference making player beat another top 20 team in an "exhibition bowl" which is apparently the new term around here if you don't make the playoffs, it would spur great interest and inspire other talents to come here.
Not to mention, contributing to a win the other players on the team not as gifted could cherish for the rest of their lives

335 players are going to the NFL combine. 3 players are sitting out of Bowl games. That's less than 1%. It's .008%. You're overreacting. McCaffrey may not even be a first round pick. Fournette I understand because he's not 100%.
 
335 players are going to the NFL combine. 3 players are sitting out of Bowl games. That's less than 1%. It's .008%. You're overreacting. McCaffrey may not even be a first round pick. Fournette I understand because he's not 100%.
Pundits and coaches around the country have stated this is the tip of the iceberg...no fault of the kids, it's the system they're part of
 
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Pundits and coaches around the country have stated this is the tip of the iceberg...no fault of the kids, it's the system they're part of

I hear what you're saying though. I wouldn't be happy if Britt, Ray Rice, McCourty or Anthony Davis decided to sit out of the bowl game.
 
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I hear what you're saying though. I wouldn't be happy if Britt, Ray Rice, McCourty or Anthony Davis decided to sit out of the bowl game.
Thank you, understanding it yet being unhappy about it is about the best any fanatic should be
Chances are at good ol RU our back ups are not on the level of more established programs.
To have people on here saying they'd have zero problem with it is mind boggling to me.
 
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You keep pretending like you want to talk about this topic, but all you are saying is that your opinion is right and anyone else disagreeing is wrong because of whatever you reason you come up with at the time.

That graph is quite literally the entire argument. If the graph instead showed nothing but a perfectly horizontal line going across, we wouldn't be having this discussion.

That graph actually supports Zappaa's position. Even though a 3rd round draft pick earns a lot less than the #1 draft pick, they're still getting $3 million dollars. Why would a projected third round draft pick risk an injury and risk giving up $3 million dollars for a "meaningless bowl game".

In fact, I'd argue that sitting out the game makes even more sense for a 3rd round pick. A third round pick isn't likely to improve his stock much by playing in a bowl game and isn't likely to hurt his stock by sitting out. The salary difference between first and last in the 3rd round is somewhat small. But for a 1st round pick, even moving a slot or two earlier is worth a lot of money. So a projected first round pick could vastly improve his salary with a good bowl game showing, and could significantly diminish his earnings if even one team passes on him for not being a team player from sitting out the bowl game.
 
He had to be hurt…no?

Story was injury was healed, but he didn't want to risk it. After season, Jets franchised him then traded him to Atlanta for 1st round pick and ended up using pick to take Nick Mangold.
 
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And that substantial yearly donation I make based upon some dream of mine that we'd become an 8-4 type team, led by a sure fire NFL star is also business.
I under stand u take care or ur business and they will take care of their business. :)
 
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That graph actually supports Zappaa's position. Even though a 3rd round draft pick earns a lot less than the #1 draft pick, they're still getting $3 million dollars.
No, it doesn't. Zap said "His NFL future and earnings for his family is dependent upon his heath isn't it" If a likely 3rd round pick gets hurt, and goes in the 6th round, they go from earning $3MM to maybe $2.5MM over the length of the contract. A loss of $500K over 4 years is as risk-free as you're going to get when weighed against the admittedly low odds of suffering a terrible injury.

How can you even possibly compare that to the $25MM down to $3MM drop?
 
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