I'm not saying we cut bait, Coach PhillyRU would play him like 25-30 minutes a game, I'd just bring him and Gavin as the first two off the bench
Next year's starting lineup needs to be...
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Oh yea if we get anything between Lance Jones to Jamison Battle at the three I start JWill 1000%. I just need someone who has made threes at the college level starting
half-agree. if only about talent, then yes he's the priority and the other backcourt starter.
but behind the scarlet curtain there may be other factors: Dylan promises, NIL limitations, the '25-'26 roster...
We need to pay J Will more than we need to pay Mag. Period. We need another veteran guard to play alongside Dylan and J Will is by far the best choice. He’ll still be a great option for 25-26. He has 2 years of eligibility. He sees the floor better than anyone we’ve had in as long as I can remember. We need to figure out the NIL thing for him. And I bet Dylan wants it to happen. To succeed most - he’s going to need a back court mate like Williams.
Dylan doesn’t not play primary point guard right now for Don Bosco. I’m not just basing this on watching the Ramapo film (though it was also obvious there). My kid played pick up last month with the younger brother of another kid on the Bosco team and the kid’s dad told us Isiah Brown (going to Howard) plays point. He goes to all the games. I’m quite certain Dylan could’ve found a high school that would make him primary PG if that was a requirement for him. Just because he said he sees himself as a PG does not mean he’s demanding, or even wants that role next season. I’m sure Steph Curry would’ve said the same thing - he did not play PG for Davidson the year they went on their run.
I agree he’s worth more to us than Mag. I meant we may not have enough to keep him, period. Our NIL total will be staggering next year no doubt.
Also, hs positions matter less. DH will likely want do develop into Jalen Brunson and that means PG. Like his brother, he’s not a freakish athlete like Westbrook and Morant.
What high school position means in this case (and only this) is the Don Bosco coach, who has an excellent reputation in Northern Nj and knows his stuff, believes his team is better off right now with Dylan playing off ball. The fact that Dylan remains on the team indicates he’s okay with that. If not, he’d have transferred somewhere else.
What I say above is fact. Everything you commented on is pure speculation without basis - or at least basis that contradicts what I point out in the above paragraph as fact.
We will see....I'm only saying it's not written in stone that DH will play off- ball.
The HS coach is likely maximizing the talents of both D1 guards. Based on the web info and AAU he projects as a PG in college, where he won't have the quickness edge at the 2 like he does in his hs schedule.
We're probably both overanalyzing his position next year. They'll probably share in the role.
The HS coach is likely maximizing the talents of both D1 guards. Based on the web info and AAU he projects as a PG in college, where he won't have the quickness edge at the 2 like he does in his hs schedule.
We're probably both overanalyzing his position next year. They'll probably share in the role.
“DSelfish” and “JaMiss” are the two best defensive guards on the team. Good legit defensive players are also needed to win you championships. You do not want Ace and Dylan expending all their energy on lockdown Pike defense. You are going to want their gritty junk yard D.
Have you watched Dylan play in a game that isn’t AAU Iso. He doesn’t really play like a distributor right now is all. That will probably change over the course of an extended college/NBA career which is what those forecasts are intended for. Right now he doesn’t play with the mentality of a PG from what I’ve seen of him.
Sorry - Jeremiah is a very good defender too. I know you want Simpson to differentiate himself in this regard but it’s very unlikely he beats J Will out as a starter next year. His only chance is if we can’t pay Jeremiah to stay.
Still believe Simpson best defensive player on the team. If not starter 6th man. And if Ace, Dylan and Williams all gone after next year, Simpson very nice luxury to have for senior year.
Which is why D won't be our identity much longer. Assuming Mag and Cliff leave, you'll only see our trademark D on old game clips.
One of those two shameless chuckers will transfer sooner or later.
Dylan is a willing passer. In HS, he can take it to the rim and score at will though
There is plenty of room for both JWill and Dylan to have the ball and create. It's a good thing to have multiple guards who are capable of doing so. They will both take some of the pressure off the other to make something happen every possession
Then there will be possessions where you can just give it to Ace and let him go to work
I didn’t mean that he doesn’t or won’t pass. He just doesn’t play a style where distributing is a focus right now. He’s a high school star. That makes perfect sense right now! It’s not going to change overnight though is all I’m saying. To be most set up for success he needs another ball handler who is pass first alongside him as a complement. I think we ideally want the option to play a sharp shooter at the 3 but we currently don’t have one on the roster. Hopefully Gavin becomes that but right now that isn’t reality.
I agree. I'm extremely excited about Dylan and JWill together in the backcourt
It's looking like there is a good chance Mag won't be back
JWill Dylan Ace Cliff (or whoever replaces him at the 5)
These are mortal locks I don't think can really be debated
That last spot ideally is a 3 and D player. It could be a 4 to replace Mag. It could be a guard or a wing. The starting lineup has flexibility since Dylan and JWill have size and length to guard a 3 if needed
Ace could play the 3 or 4 too. Pike has options. If Ace plays the 3, we are going to be a very tall long team again. If he plays the 4, we will have 4 starters with guard skills
A real X factor will be how well Dylan and Ace can shoot the 3. If they both struggle a la Gavin, it will be another year of Rutgers struggling from deep most likely. Even in that scenario, we should be better offensively since they both should be able to get to the basket
To me, GG isn't a lock but I think 75% chance he does start. I don't see any reason to start a poor shooting third guard instead.
Other than random rank speculation on this board, is there any real indication Mag won't be back? I think some people are reading tea leaves and concluding that. It's not my conclusion.
After last years “insider reports” the the was gone, I’ll wait until something official comes out on any player movement.
That's perfect!
Probably puffs his chest out....big man calling teens names. What a man!
I guess some people remain perpetually twelve years old. I actually pity him.
Gavin is shooting 26% from 3. Under 32% overall. Hopefully he improves but he had arguably his best game of the year yesterday and shot 3 of 10.
JWill has length and his conditioning should be improved next year.
He's a prominent bball insider burner account on Twitter. No idea the context or if it was based on inside info or just speculation
Poster on RT said Trilly said it. I don't think he tweeted it I think it was posted somewhere else... who knows...
That could be worst case scenario
Best case Cliff return, next best veteran portal starting caliber B1G 5. Relying on a true freshman 5 to be a starter as a freshman is very risky. Too risky to me since we can't afford to squander the 1 year with Dylan and Ace
Ideally we need a better shooter in this lineup than Davis or Simpson. Would like to see a portal addition who can fill this role as a 3 and D specialist type
If this is the starting lineup it means Cliff left, we didn't land a stud 5 and we didn't land a stud guard or wing who can shoot the 3. That would make the ceiling projection for what this team could do lower
It’s unlikely Somerville will be a day 1 starter. If I had to guess, I think we’re going to focus on bringing in one high level portal kid with the intent for that kid to be a starter once we sort out who is returning.
I’m assuming as default that the 5 incoming recruits are replacing the 3 seniors, Chol and Mag (he’s not coming back guys - just don’t see it).
If Cliff moves on, we’d probably target a more versatile BIG who can slide 4 / 5. In that case, I think we’d end up with either Simpson or Davis (assuming both return) in a 3 guard starting line up. If Cliff comes back - we almost certainly lose either Ogbole or Wolf (we’re not going to maintain 4 centers on the roster. In that case, we probably focus on bringing in a wing who can shoot (to play the 3).
I know some of our fans are fantasizing about whole sale roster upgrades but not only are those pipe dreams, the reality of what we would to be able to get in the portal to back up Williams and Dylan at the 1-2 likely wouldn’t be an upgrade over Simpson / Davis if we’re already bringing in a lengthy 3. If you go even deeper - I can near guarantee we’re not getting a better utility player than Oskar to ride the bench (what I’m saying is - let’s say ideal scenerio we’ve hypothetically secured a double digit scoring wing from another power team, we have J Will, Cliff, Ace, transfer wing penciled in at starter - plus either Simpson or Davis or both, Somerville, and 2 new forward recruits. Now imagine Oskar leaves. In what world with that roster is someone better than Oskar signing on? The answer is none.
Wouldn't one of Wolf/Ogbole be leaving anyway?
If we bring back Clif, we aren't carrying 4 centers.
If Clif leaves and bring in a C transfer, we aren't carrying 4 centers.
Also, does that Center have 2-3 years remaining?
I mentioned in another thread, if the incoming C is starting over Lathan next year, wouldnt he also start over him in 2 years? Do we care about that now?
Honestly, loading up on 5 freshman is kind of a problem it seems.
Ace/Dylan are here 1 year. Which means need to maximize the potential next year and not "rebuild" or develop players.
But 3 roster spots are already taken up with the other freshman.
Plus returning(?) starters JWill, Simpson and Davis.
And former high recruit GG.
That's 9 spots before we even get Center.
The only way to improve the team is push out Simpson/Davis/JWill (current starters).
But will they want to take a reduced role next year in favor of a transfer?
Obviously Grant/Dortch aren't going anywhere so a transfer won't effect them.
But any other roster upgrade (PG, Wing) pushes out Simpson, Davis, JWill, GG potentially.
Ace/Dylan are here 1 year. Which means need to maximize the potential next year and not "rebuild" or develop players.
But 3 roster spots are already taken up with the other freshman.
Plus returning(?) starters JWill, Simpson and Davis.
And former high recruit GG.
That's 9 spots before we even get Center.
The only way to improve the team is push out Simpson/Davis/JWill (current starters).
But will they want to take a reduced role next year in favor of a transfer?
Obviously Grant/Dortch aren't going anywhere so a transfer won't effect them.
But any other roster upgrade (PG, Wing) pushes out Simpson, Davis, JWill, GG potentially.
Tilly Williams loves
Gavin Griffiths
Somerville
doesn't like
Dylan Harper
Ace Bailey
Thinks Steve Pikiell is a great coach and wants to hire BrettMacConnell and get rid of Brandin Knight
Gavin Griffiths
Somerville
doesn't like
Dylan Harper
Ace Bailey
Thinks Steve Pikiell is a great coach and wants to hire BrettMacConnell and get rid of Brandin Knight
Tilly thinks
Woolfolk stays
Cliff stays
Mag leaves
Williams stays
Chol definitely gone
Oskar gone too
Simpson gone
Woolfolk stays
Cliff stays
Mag leaves
Williams stays
Chol definitely gone
Oskar gone too
Simpson gone
