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NJ.com: Golden, Ash, Warriner Top Targets

Where does it say "emerge as top targets"?? All I see is "emerge as candidates" and I don't even see Golden metioned in the linked article.
 
Based off of stars on rivals it does not look like Golden is that great of a recruiter. The recruiting talent didn't increase while he was at Temple and Miami has always been able to recruit regardless who the head coach is. Being the former head coach of Miami while sounds nice doesn't look so well when you look at his firing and the airplanes flying overhead.
 
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There is no such thing as reporting any more, just regurgitation.

Golden in the lead, followed by Ash and Warriner would sum up today's post count on Rivals. I think that is no coincidence.
 
Warriner was also Ohio State's offensive line coach before he was promoted to co-offensive coordinator when Herman left. Getting Kyle Flood flashbacks here.
 
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Who do you want?
Go poach another P5 head coach. Mullen, Rich Rod, etc. What would a real B1G program do? What would OSU, Michigan, MSU, PSU do in this situation? We want to compete with them in the B1G east we need to step up and think like them. I want a big name coach that will walk into NJ and the NJ recruits will know the name and will want to play for him from day 1. Get th money for the buy out and let's get serious.

When Ash was at Arkansas his D played very soft. - go ask Southern or other Arkansas fans about him. Go ask OSU fans about Warriner.
 
Go poach another P5 head coach. Mullen, Rich Rod, etc. What would a real B1G program do? What would OSU, Michigan, MSU, PSU do in this situation? We want to compete with them in the B1G east we need to step up and think like them. I want a big name coach that will walk into NJ and the NJ recruits will know the name and will want to play for him from day 1. Get th money for the buy out and let's get serious.

When Ash was at Arkansas his D played very soft. - go ask Southern or other Arkansas fans about him. Go ask OSU fans about Warriner.

Even Maryland, who have UA backing and good local recruiting, had to go the coordinator route. I don;'t think RU is as good of a job as some here think it is. Not very easy to poach successful P5 coaches.
 
Warriner was also Ohio State's offensive line coach before he was promoted to co-offensive coordinator when Herman left. Getting Kyle Flood flashbacks here.
Kyle Flood didn't coach at ND, Illinois, Kansas, and two academies before he got our gig. He didn't have the three greatest offensive years as oc of Kansas that they ever had there getting to the damn orange bowl in the process.

Oh and Flood was ol coach here. We ain't OSU. We ain't ND either.

Oh and I don't see where Warriner was demoted ever from being an OC like Kyle was.

Apples and oranges my friend. His resume reminds me of Dantonio. A coaching lifer getting his first shot in his mid 50s (read young enough but not green).
 
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Kyle Flood didn't coach at ND, Illinois, Kansas, and two academies before he got our gig. He didn't have the three greatest offensive years as oc of Kansas that they ever had there getting to the damn orange bowl in the process.

Oh and Flood was ol coach here. We ain't OSU. We ain't ND either.

Oh and I don't see where Warriner was demoted ever from being an OC like Kyle was.

Apples and oranges my friend. His resume reminds me of Dantonio. A coaching lifer getting his first shot in his mid 50s (read young enough but not green).
Not saying he's the same as Flood. Just saying there are enough similarities at first glance to make me feel uneasy.
 
Not saying he's the same as Flood. Just saying there are enough similarities at first glance to make me feel uneasy.

I hear you. Let's just not have Flood ruin it for every OL coach out there. If we hire this guy and we become know for our o lines that's a win. You have an ol you have a shot.

Now if I find out Warriner was a high school math teacher I would pull my support however!
 
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Actually, I find it even more disturbing that we may be looking at both Ohio State assistants at the same time. If that's true, it just feels like we're tossing spaghetti up at the wall to see which piece sticks.
 
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Actually, I find it even more disturbing that we may be looking at both Ohio State assistants at the same time. If that's true, it just feels like we're tossing spaghetti up at the wall to see which piece sticks.
So all this excitement with Hobbs and this is what we end up with ?
 
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So all this excitement with Hobbs and this is what we end up with ?
We'll see what happens, but if we don't get the right coach, everything that's happened in the past few days will be for nothing. We'll still be spinning our wheels going nowhere.
 
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Go poach another P5 head coach. Mullen, Rich Rod, etc. What would a real B1G program do? What would OSU, Michigan, MSU, PSU do in this situation? We want to compete with them in the B1G east we need to step up and think like them. I want a big name coach that will walk into NJ and the NJ recruits will know the name and will want to play for him from day 1. Get th money for the buy out and let's get serious.

When Ash was at Arkansas his D played very soft. - go ask Southern or other Arkansas fans about him. Go ask OSU fans about Warriner.

You're not poaching P5 head coaches unless you're the likes of Michigan, Nebraska or Ohio State. You're just not, and if that's your baseline you might as well not bother. Half of the current B1G coaches are in their first P5 HC job. Five of them are in their first HC job, period.
 
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Go poach another P5 head coach. Mullen, Rich Rod, etc. What would a real B1G program do? What would OSU, Michigan, MSU, PSU do in this situation? We want to compete with them in the B1G east we need to step up and think like them. I want a big name coach that will walk into NJ and the NJ recruits will know the name and will want to play for him from day 1. Get th money for the buy out and let's get serious.

When Ash was at Arkansas his D played very soft. - go ask Southern or other Arkansas fans about him. Go ask OSU fans about Warriner.

You mean like USC, the real one, Georgia and Maryland?
 
The coaching search is just started in earnest, there will be a whole lot of names thrown out as candidates, lets see who interviews.
 
I get Ash, but Warriner?! OSU's offense took a giant step backwards this year under his new leadership.
 
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I get Ash, but Warriner?! OSU's offense took a giant step backwards this year under his new leadership.
Has been OC at Kansas and Army , but he really doesn't impress as far as I'm concerned.
When he left both the Army and Kansas jobs he took a step down
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2015-Present
Offensive Coordinator & Offensive Line Coach Ohio State
2012-2014 Co-Offensive Coordinator & Offensive Line Coach Ohio State
2010-2011 Offensive Line Coach Notre Dame
2009 Offensive Coordinator, Quarterback Coach & Associate Head Coach Kansas
2007-2008 Offensive Coordinator & Quarterback Coach Kansas
2005-2006 Running Game Coordinator & Offensive Line Coach Illinois
2003-2004 Offensive Line Coach & Running Game Coordinator Kansas
2000-2002 Offensive Line Coach Air Force
1987-1999 Offensive Coordinator, Defensive Line Coach, Offensive Line Coach & Quarterback Coach Army
1985-1986 Linebacker Coach & Secondary Coach Michigan State
1984 Running Backs Coach Akron
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IF the reports are true that Rutgers will pay up to $4 million a year for a new coach (hard to believe), then those seeking a big name coach may get their wish.
 
IF the reports are true that Rutgers will pay up to $4 million a year for a new coach (hard to believe), then those seeking a big name coach may get their wish.

Was that a hint you were dropping there? Or are you just sharing an opinion.... I cant really tell anymore on here lately
 
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IF the reports are true that Rutgers will pay up to $4 million a year for a new coach (hard to believe), then those seeking a big name coach may get their wish.
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you would think..... which makes me suspect that the rumblings of opening up the check book big time, was not up to 4 or 5 million, but 2 mill, a bit more....

I find it hard to believe that RU could not have gotten a really long look at a big name if the offer was going to be 4 to 5 mill/year....

anyway..... we have discussed and it has been tossed about that we might have locked up Herman or Mullen a year or two ago, but we waited too long and they are now too much
in demand for RU to get them..... these two probably had a bunch of question marks at that point, our fans here might have been afraid of their hire back then

hopefully this guy Ash might fit in that category and we choose him and he blossoms.....we seem to have found a lot wrong with Diaco, Golden, Cristobal, etc, so I see no reason
to go with any of them over Ash, who has a clean slate.... the experience of being a head coach of those other three has not been impressive, yet some insist we have to
have an experienced head coach....
 
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No to both OSU guys. RU needs to do better

Dan Mullen, Charlie Strong, Kyle Whittingham, Doc Holliday, Gary Andersen, Tom Hermann.....

If ther is a qualified candidate coaching under Urban Meyer you grab him and hold on like grim death. Urban isn't that old and to have that kind of success with former assistants is fairly remarkable. I want Ash bad and just about all I know about him is Urban wanted him enough to poach him from Arkansas and he comes from the hottest coaching tree in CFB.
 
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You're not poaching P5 head coaches unless you're the likes of Michigan, Nebraska or Ohio State. You're just not, and if that's your baseline you might as well not bother. Half of the current B1G coaches are in their first P5 HC job. Five of them are in their first HC job, period.

Good post. Somehow the coordinator route was good enough for small time Georgia. The Meyer coaching tree has been pretty successful - doubters should go watch the video of Ash when he was hired by OSU. He'd make a great candidate and OSU guys rave about him. Everyone thinks of Luke Fickell as the guy behind their D because he's been there forever, but Ash was brought in for a reason.
 
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