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No $$$ for a new HC but......

I don't know, I thought they idea was to run away from race based decisions and more towards accomplishment based decisions as it relates to hiring.

So what is the optimal "diversity" for the university. I want numbers.

Liberals love to put people in boxes. This is just another example.

Sadly, schools like Rutgers are taking the hit. When has Rutgers not been, "diverse?" It's always listed as one of the most diverse schools in the nation.

The more diverse the school gets, the further our rankings drop. Coincidence? Probably not.

Martin Luther King must be turning over in his grave right now.

Yet, you didn't bemoan that your kids grew up in a time when there was other discrimination. I'm a bit uncomfortable with this sort of thing as well, but overall I'd rather my kids grow up with this than in any previous time.
 
Leaving aside whether diversity is an important part of a University's mission...

Shouldn't the main goal be providing the best education possible, by the best educators available (regardless of skin color, age, sex (please), religion, sexual proclivity, political affiliation, car ownership status, weight, hair color or side of the transformer/go-bot argument you take) while trying to reduce costs to the students and taxpayers?
 
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Shouldn't the main goal be providing the best education possible, by the best educators available (regardless of skin color, age, sex (please), religion, sexual proclivity, political affiliation, car ownership status, weight, hair color or side of the transformer/go-bot argument you take) while trying to reduce costs to the students and taxpayers?

The 'best education possible' is pretty subjective. I suspect they would argue providing varying viewpoints based on differing places in society provides a well rounded education.
 
You guys really don't have vision if you see this as an issue.

Hire Charlie Strong from Texas and get 50% of his salary paid for by this program.

Think outside the box people.
 
I would assume they still have affirmative action plans for companies and businesses that do a certain amount of business with the Federal government. Defense companies, broadcast companies and schools that receive federal funding would apply. I use to have to prepare an Affirmative Action Plan for my location in Broadcasting detailing stats concerning the number of minority employees and applicants verse the demographics of the area. You still hire the best qualified but you have to do some outreach to make sure you are reaching the minority candidates.

It's funny that many think Rutgers students population is different from other top schools but it's not

University of Washington demo is, 43% white, 30% Asians, 7% Hispanics, 4% black, 15% Intl,

University of Southern Calif. 39% white, 23% Asians, 14% Hispanics, 5 % blacks, 12% Intl, 7% other

Univ of Texas 50% white, 18% Asians, 20% Hispanics, 5% black, 7% intl

Rutgers 45% whites, 20% Asians, 10% Hispanics, 10% blacks,Intl 10% , 5 % others

Harvard 46% whites, 17 % Asians, 9% Hispanics, 6% blacks, 11% Intl, 10% mixed race

Princeton 42% whites, 22% Asians, 11 % Hispanics, 7 % blacks, 14% Intl., 4% multiracial.

Yale. 51% whites, 19% Asians, 12% Hispanics, 8 % blacks, 10% Intl

MIT. 34% whites, 30% Asians, 15% Hispanics, 10% blacks, 8% Intl

Columbia Univ. 33% whites, 19% Asians, 15 % Hispanics, 12% blacks, 12% Intl, 2% others


USC, Harvard, Princeton and Univ of Texas Austin, I would have thought were the whitest schools in the nation. Univ of Arizona has similar numbers.
 
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Why should we consider anything you say when you won't even EDIT your post and instead choose to add a second post with the correction?

Kind of a dickish post and completely wrong according to the poster's followup. Maybe think twice and hit the back button next time.

That said, his premise is pointless.
 
Shouldn't the main goal be providing the best education possible, by the best educators available (regardless of skin color, age, sex (please), religion, sexual proclivity, political affiliation, car ownership status, weight, hair color or side of the transformer/go-bot argument you take) while trying to reduce costs to the students and taxpayers?

I thought Old Cabbage's main goal in that quote was leaving debate about diversity aside. I must need a new set of glasses.
 
Yet, you didn't bemoan that your kids grew up in a time when there was other discrimination. I'm a bit uncomfortable with this sort of thing as well, but overall I'd rather my kids grow up with this than in any previous time.


It's racism, plain and simple.
 
Rutgers certainly valued diversity when I was in school in the 60's - I think we had at least 6 black students in the entirety of Rutgers College.
 
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How about a university wide initiative to hire the most prolific , noteworthy and competent faculty ever recruited to Rutgers without any regard to diversity? You know , based strictly on merit and achievement.

We did that, back when it mattered in the 1980s. It was the "Fund for Distinction" and it helped get us into the AAU.

Since then, that kind of thing just doesn't matter very much. But either way, it has zero to do with spending money on a football coach.
 
I suggest that instead of giving the units money, that more effort, and possibly more money, be spent ensuring the pool of qualified applicants is diverse.
 
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"even with the whole affirmative action thing?"
 
It's funny that many on this board has the impression that the Rutgers students population is different from other top schools but it's not

University of Washington demo is, 43% Whites, 30% Asians, 7% Hispanics, 4% black, 15% Intl,

University of Southern Calif. 39% white, 23% Asians, 14% Hispanics, 5 % blacks, 12% Intl, 7% other

Univ of Texas 50% white, 18% Asians, 20% Hispanics, 5% black, 7% intl

Carnegie Mellon. 40% white, 22% Asians, 7% Hispanics, 5% blacks, 15% Intl, 7 % other

Rutgers 45% whites, 20% Asians, 10% Hispanics, 10% blacks,Intl 10% , 5 % others

Harvard 46% whites, 17 % Asians, 9% Hispanics, 6% blacks, 11% Intl, 10% mixed race

Princeton 42% whites, 22% Asians, 11 % Hispanics, 7 % blacks, 14% Intl., 4% multiracial.

Yale. 51% whites, 19% Asians, 12% Hispanics, 8 % blacks, 10% Intl

Northwestern. 50% Whites, 15% Asians, 8% Hispanics, 5% Blacks, 5% Intl, 12% other

MIT. 34% whites, 30% Asians, 15% Hispanics, 10% blacks, 8% Intl

Columbia Univ. 33% whites, 19% Asians, 15 % Hispanics, 12% blacks, 12% Intl, 2% others

NYU. 39% Whites, 19%Asians, 11 Hispanics, 4% blacks, 14% Intl, 12% other

Rutgers demographics is similar to the other Ivy League Schools.
 
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Those numbers are for Rutgers as a whole. For NB Undergrad, the numbers are 43% White, 26% Asian, 12% Hispanic, 7% Black, 6% International, 3% two or more races, 2% other/unknown
Still very similar to Ivy League schools. Diversity is in all of the best schools. Delaware and Penn State don't rank with the Ivy Leagues. These are the students that can not get into the Ivies.
 
"When we keep putting boxes around people's race, gender, religion, etc...we will keep maintaining artificial boundaries." - johnny ringoes

I remember as a very young man that I thought people would have cross-screwed so much that one day there really would only be one human race. Perhaps by the year 3001.
 
It appears to be a large % of International students that are here because they can afford to pay full tuition. I assume most of them are from China and India.
 
It appears to be a large % of International students that are here because they can afford to pay full tuition. I assume most of them are from China and India.

Actually, Rutgers fall in the lower half in that group of schools with respect to % of international students.

The statistic I would like to see, and it would be limited to the public universities in that group, is a comparison of % of out-of-state students. International would be only a part of that number. I'll be Rutgers is at the low end.
 
Actually, Rutgers fall in the lower half in that group of schools with respect to % of international students.

The statistic I would like to see, and it would be limited to the public universities in that group, is a comparison of % of out-of-state students. International would be only a part of that number. I'll be Rutgers is at the low end.


You can find that easy enough. Google "Common Data Set" and the university you want to check. Item F1 shows the percent of out-of-state students (excluding international students). For Rutgers, the percent is 6%. For Illinois it is 9%. For Maryland it is 20%. For Penn State it is 31%.
 
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