Not one public comment from Julie yet? Really?

[ruready4somefootball]

I must say, after last season and all the bouquets she threw at Kyle for winning 8 games in our inaugural B1G season, I would have hoped she would have backed him publicly during the investigation.It will be easy after the fact, but NOW,if she had balls,would be the time to support him, and show the Star Ledger, she is not afraid of them. Get out from under the table and back your head coach, Julie. If she really believes in him, and thinks, at the most Flood committed a small naive infraction, then BACK Kyle.It's times like these that cement coaches and AD's, and get them through tough times that always come. I've seen it at other schools a thousand times, at Rutgers,not so much.

 

[RutgersRaRa]

I must say, after last season and all the bouquets she threw at Kyle for winning 8 games in our inaugural B1G season, I would have hoped she would have backed him publicly during the investigation.It will be easy after the fact, but NOW,if she had balls,would be the time to support him, and show the Star Ledger, she is not afraid of them. Get out from under the table and back your head coach, Julie. If she really believes in him, and thinks, at the most Flood committed a small naive infraction, then BACK Kyle.It's times like these that cement coaches and AD's, and get them through tough times that always come. I've seen it at other schools a thousand times, at Rutgers,not so much.

When "thinks" turns to "knows," she can comment.

 

[JQRU91]

She may also be laying low because she has the reversal in that Louisville lawsuit lurking in the background right now.

http://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/i...upreme_court_rules_against_univ_of_louis.html

 

[vkj91]

When will people learn this is isn't Joe Schmo commenting at the office party. This is a huge machine with many moving parts. Those parts often limit their ability to comment on even simple matters because processes must be followed. Let's assume, in her heart she knows he's innocent so she breaks protocol and speaks for him. Three months from know NJ.com finds some smoking email.....now they are both getting fired and her career is ruined as well. We live in a PC world where the littlest comments are blown out of proportion. As a result, you will see less and less people commenting in fear of retribution.

 

[ruready4somefootball]

When will people learn this is isn't Joe Schmo commenting at the office party. This is a huge machine with many moving parts. Those parts often limit their ability to comment on even simple matters because processes must be followed. Let's assume, in her heart she knows he's innocent so she breaks protocol and speaks for him. Three months from know NJ.com finds some smoking email.....now they are both getting fired and her career is ruined as well. We live in a PC world where the littlest comments are blown out of proportion. As a result, you will see less and less people commenting in fear of retribution.

Sadly your right, but it used to be a nice read when you could read about someone praising their boss who backed them, when no one else would. The easy road is so well traveled, and the hard road almost never taken anymore. You wonder why so many coaches take the money and run. Loyalty is rare, and a forgotten art form. Some small part of me wishes the Rutgers Community had a little of the "close up the ranks" mentality that Penn State showed during the whole Sandusky debacle. Sure, they refuse even today to believe Paterno did wrong, but you got to like the way they gave a collective "finger" to the press and everybody that was against them. I just wish the State of Rutgers had one tenth of that resolve against the media around here. So much for "Jersey Strong".

 

[RU Husky]

She'll get her chance pretty soon. She can't win. Round 2 may be bloodier than round 1.

 

[MADHAT1]

She may also be laying low because she has the reversal in that Louisville lawsuit lurking in the background right now.

http://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/i...upreme_court_rules_against_univ_of_louis.html

Don't forget this part of article:
>"Hermann was not a party in the suit, but was prominently involved, serving as a witness for the University of Louisville in the case.'<

 

[DaveSNJ]

I posted this in a thread on the round table:

1) If there is an immediate response it puts more weight into what the local media is reporting and this situation is more than likely a non issue
2) Apparently there is an active investigation being conducted, what is Hermann or any other official to say except for say Barchi

So you let things play out, the media is begging for a response from any RU official.

I don't think people on this board realized what happened yesterday, and it may have been a first for RU PR. There was an article written by Joe Schad, ESPN, and was on the site later in the day. An unnamed RU source provided information to ESPN clarifying the non incident - Flood did not ask to have the student's grade changed, which he ran with.

Now that is one heck of a shrewd move by Hermann, this has her written all over it. You basically change the narrative or counter it without being directly involved with delivery. You let a more, it pains me to write this, reputable National media outlet circulate your message for you. And you do it later in the day so it provides a lasting impression - with little or no response. So I don't think Hermann is weak I think she is pretty smart and demonstrated leadership and maybe even some muscle. And this may not have been all Hermann, maybe she had some help and people talked to other people.

 

[KJ_RU]

Hermann is doing exactly what Flood should've done when the story first broke...'no comment due to an on going investigation'.

 

[RU62]

Maybe someone like Tom Luicci who has first hand experience and knowledge helped here and her. I've often have been of the opinion that her best hire will prove to be Luicci. Wish one could say the same about Barchi and his crew in Old Queen's. While he may be doing a great job regarding the med school merger some if his staff and hires have scars on them and legal issues such as the cases involving Jackson and even the entire way the Pernetti situation was handled. I guess we have never heard anything more as to any settlement regarding Murdoch.

 

[hinson32]

This is not Julie's decision. Any actions will be dictated by Barchi's office and not the AD's office.

 

[KJ_RU]

This is not Julie's decision. Any actions will be dictated by Barchi's office and not the AD's office.

Who cares, let's never miss a chance to bash Julie, lol

 

[Knightmoves]

This is not Julie's decision. Any actions will be dictated by Barchi's office and not the AD's office.

Interesting that the Faculty Union Rep, David Hughes, is now asking Barchi to make a public statement confirming the autonomy of the faculty in regards to communications with the athletic department. Don't be surprised if Barchi is hiding under his desk about this matter. That's the way things are done at RU. CYA and never take a public position on any matter that may later be criticized. The CYA mentality starts at the top and works its way throughout the entire staff of the university. Barchi is probably waiting for outside counsel to complete its investigation and to let him know what or if he should say anything about this. The RU Administration operates like a bloated government agency where accountability is avoided at all costs.

With this as a background Julie is not about to say anything public at this point, at the risk of becoming a fall guy in the eventual aftermath of the situation. Barchi and JH will simply let Flood twist in the wind until the attorneys come up with some settlement to the situation and then they may make a statement IMO.

 

[ScarletStateofNJ]

Would you prefer her to open her mouth and make a gaffe, as she's done so many times in the past?

 

[Abro1975]

Barchi is waiting for Christie to find time to meet with Mike Brey to get his decision on how we handle our problem.

In all seriousness, I think Ray Lesniak & Greg Brown need to step in and stop the madness.

 

[Ole Cabbagehead]

Absolutely no reason for her to say anything until the independent law firm has gone through all of Flood's emails. She cannot confirm or deny that he did anything wrong until that occurs. The worst possible outcome is for Julie to back Kyle, and then the SL comes forward with another professor and another email. You think they aren't looking for one?? Of course they are.

Once she has all the info, they will lay this to rest. And there is no reason to do that quickly. This is a non-story, so if the investigation takes a month, it just dies anyway. They have nothing to report on. If Julie goes off half cocked, then you will see another round of about a dozen articles saying the same thing.

 

[PhilaPhans]

You people want this to turn into a bigger $#!% storm by having her publicly support the guy on an issue that's a 1 on a scale of 1 to 100?

 

[RutGuy]

The less she talks the better. She needs to lay low. Her short history handling Rutgers PR matters has been dreadful. Plus adding yet another voice to the conversation is just fodder for the media.

 

[srru86]

Interesting that the Faculty Union Rep, David Hughes, is now asking Barchi to make a public statement confirming the autonomy of the faculty in regards to communications with the athletic department. Don't be surprised if Barchi is hiding under his desk about this matter.

As somebody who has done labor relations for a long time you really don't want your CEO jumping every time the union makes some sort of demand.

 

[Rokodesh]

Hermann is doing exactly what Flood should've done when the story first broke...'no comment due to an on going investigation'.

Flood needed to squash it ASAP and that's what he did. No comment makes him seem like he's hiding something, only giving more fuel to the SL. He did the right thing on his part to restore his public image, and quickly.

 

[Underdogs88]

If Julie kept commenting on the situation it would just lead to more NJ.com articles. Don't feed the beast and it will be out of the news shortly. This is a minor issue. Let's just ignore it like the national media has and it will go away. Remember don't click on the nj.com links.

 

[KJ_RU]

Flood needed to squash it ASAP and that's what he did. No comment makes him seem like he's hiding something, only giving more fuel to the SL. He did the right thing on his part to restore his public image, and quickly.

Flood did nothing to help himself with that statement, he looked and sounded clueless.

 

[srru86]

Not a PR guy but I agree with the last Rokodesh and underdog posts. Flood had to come out with some version of "I'm cooperating and not guilty" otherwise the only sound heard is the accusers.

Julie's opinion doesn't add anything at this point to the public discourse.

 

[RUskoolie]

The only place this is a story is on Rutgers fan message boards. You guys are your own worst enemies with this stuff and probably give those sites 75% of their clicks. This is a non-story that no one cares about outside of our community. If you ignore it, it will be gone. The more you talk about it, the more writers write about it because they want more clicks.

 

[KJ_RU]

Not a PR guy but I agree with the last Rokodesh and underdog posts. Flood had to come out with some version of "I'm cooperating and not guilty" otherwise the only sound heard is the accusers.

Julie's opinion doesn't add anything at this point to the public discourse.

Yeah, making a statement saying that you basically did what you're accused of doing and you've done it lots of times makes it pretty clear that you're not guilty. Flood actually said he talks to professors about what a player can do to improve his grade. I'm still shaking my head over that.

 

[mdk01]

With an ongoing investigation being conducted by outside counsel any comment she made would be considered an attempt influence the investigation. The SL writers already have their pencil sharpened and are praying she gives them more fodder.

The time for her to comment is AFTER outside counsel renders his report.

 

[JQRU91]

Don't forget this part of article:
>"Hermann was not a party in the suit, but was prominently involved, serving as a witness for the University of Louisville in the case.'<

My point was that if Julie gets up to speak in front of reporters now, it gives them a chance to ask her questions about how she feels about the ruling on the lawsuit. And they can dig all that up again to pad an article. If she lays low for a bit longer and then a reporter asks about it, she can say, "Why are you asking about that now? That happened a month ago. It's old news. Time to move on."

 

[Knight Shift]

If history is a guide, and Julie saw what happened when Tim made a statement, it would be wise for her to not say anything until the investigation is concluded.

 

[RU4Real]

Absolutely no reason for her to say anything until the independent law firm has gone through all of Flood's emails. She cannot confirm or deny that he did anything wrong until that occurs. The worst possible outcome is for Julie to back Kyle, and then the SL comes forward with another professor and another email. You think they aren't looking for one?? Of course they are.

Once she has all the info, they will lay this to rest. And there is no reason to do that quickly. This is a non-story, so if the investigation takes a month, it just dies anyway. They have nothing to report on. If Julie goes off half cocked, then you will see another round of about a dozen articles saying the same thing.

This is the only post in this thread that makes comprehensive sense. Most of the rest of it is just five minutes of my life that I'll never get back.

 

[Caliknight]

Barchi is waiting for Christie to find time to meet with Mike Brey to get his decision on how we handle our problem.

In all seriousness, I think Ray Lesniak & Greg Brown need to step in and stop the madness.

It's how PC University works. They can't do snything about it.

 

[CuredbywinningRU]

I must say, after last season and all the bouquets she threw at Kyle for winning 8 games in our inaugural B1G season, I would have hoped she would have backed him publicly during the investigation.It will be easy after the fact, but NOW,if she had balls,would be the time to support him, and show the Star Ledger, she is not afraid of them. Get out from under the table and back your head coach, Julie. If she really believes in him, and thinks, at the most Flood committed a small naive infraction, then BACK Kyle.It's times like these that cement coaches and AD's, and get them through tough times that always come. I've seen it at other schools a thousand times, at Rutgers,not so much.

The worst thing anyone in a position of authority (or otherwise in an organization) can do in a situation like this is to do or say anything until the investigation is complete (which I'm sure it is) and negotiations with the pertinent regulatory body (NCAA) are finalized. Anything that is said before then is not only meaningless, but has the potential to make the person saying it, the institution involved and the individual in the hot seat look very dumb in retrospect, once the final resolution of the matter comes to light.

 

[RUinPAC10land]

The worst thing anyone in a position of authority (or otherwise in an organization) can do in a situation like this is to do or say anything until the investigation is complete (which I'm sure it is) and negotiations with the pertinent regulatory body (NCAA) are finalized. Anything that is said before then is not only meaningless, but has the potential to make the person saying it, the institution involved and the individual in the hot seat look very dumb in retrospect, once the final resolution of the matter comes to light.

No offense, OP but this is common sense. I am thinking that you are very young.

 

[RutgersRaRa]

The only place this is a story is on Rutgers fan message boards. You guys are your own worst enemies with this stuff and probably give those sites 75% of their clicks. This is a non-story that no one cares about outside of our community. If you ignore it, it will be gone. The more you talk about it, the more writers write about it because they want more clicks.

skoolie, you know that the Ledger is running with this, and that is where the damage and time-wasting is being done. Also, you hang out on tMB and they were talking about it over there. The thread title was something along the lines of, "Rutgers' Flood About To Be Shitcanned, Who Are the Replacement Candidates?" When I glanced at the thread there were already about 20 responses, though I haven't been back there since.

I agree that it's a non-story that goes away once the truth comes out, but until then it's of interest to people beyond this board. Everybody in my life knows I'm a Rutgers fan, and every time the Ledger runs with something like this they bring it up to me, and not one of them follows the boards. The Rutgers odyssey has drawn more interest than those on here, no doubt about it.

 

[RutgersRaRa]

skoolie, you know that the Ledger is running with this, and that is where the damage and time-wasting is being done. Also, you hang out on tMB and they were talking about it over there. The thread title was something along the lines of, "Rutgers' Flood About To Be Shitcanned, Who Are the Replacement Candidates?" When I glanced at the thread there were already about 20 responses, though I haven't been back there since.

I agree that it's a non-story that goes away once the truth comes out, but until then it's of interest to people beyond this board. Everybody in my life knows I'm a Rutgers fan, and every time the Ledger runs with something like this they bring it up to me, and not one of them follows the boards. The Rutgers odyssey has drawn more interest than those on here, no doubt about it.

P.S. You're one of my favorite posters over there, BTW.

 

[mildone]

You people want this to turn into a bigger $#!% storm by having her publicly support the guy on an issue that's a 1 on a scale of 1 to 100?

This.

There's little value in anyone saying much of anything. I'd go a step farther and when the investigation comes back and clears Flood (or shows a minor transgression at most), the university should quietly put out a memo, maybe make a single press-release statement, and then everyone should continue to not talk about it.

 

[Wolv RU]

Don't forget this part of article:
>"Hermann was not a party in the suit, but was prominently involved, serving as a witness for the University of Louisville in the case.'<

So now a fact witness in a lawsuit is "prominently involved." The statements by this media outlet get more ridiculous by the day.

A fact witness is far down the list of anyone "involved" with any litigation where any significant sum of money is at stake.

 

[Ole Cabbagehead]

So now a fact witness in a lawsuit is "prominently involved." The statements by this media outlet get more ridiculous by the day.

A fact witness is far down the list of anyone "involved" with any litigation where any significant sum of money is at stake.

LOL. That's amazing. Once I deposed a secretary of an underling of a guy accused of breaches of fiduciary duty. We were trying to establish that he was never in the office. Her prominent involvement in the lawsuit certainly never occurred to any of us. None of the lead counsel even bothered attending. I spent a half an hour trying to get her to say "He was never in the office" and once she did the other guy threw up his hands and we all went home.

We never even used her testimony at trial.

 

[MADHAT1]

If history is a guide, and Julie saw what happened when Tim made a statement, it would be wise for her to not say anything until the investigation is concluded.

This ^^^^^^^^
Hermann making any kind of statement while the investigation is going on would be unwise and anything she said could be twisted.
The best way Julie can support Kyle is by staying out of the fray until the results of the investigation come out.
As for Barchi, the same.

 

[NickyNewark51]

This ^^^^^^^^
Hermann making any kind of statement while the investigation is going on would be unwise and anything she said could be twisted.
The best way Julie can support Kyle is by staying out of the fray until the results of the investigation come out.
As for Barchi, the same.

Maybe the less said? Why dignify those arses? Stay above the fray and give them the rope!!

 

[cRURah]

how many times do we have to talk about this? Julie should do this...Rutgers should do that...the press can go suck...etc. It's an investigation of a compliance issue. No matter how minor it seems an infraction, because it is against university policy and a matter of compliance, it needs to be investigated and everyone else just needs to shut the hell up.