Not one public comment from Julie yet? Really?

[MADHAT1]

how many times do we have to talk about this? Julie should do this...Rutgers should do that...the press can go suck...etc. It's an investigation of a compliance issue. No matter how minor it seems an infraction, because it is against university policy and a matter of compliance, it needs to be investigated and everyone else just needs to shut the hell up.

As for Julie should do something, I think there are some who still want her out and use every oppertunity to imply she's not doing a good job.

How many times we'll talk about this: as long as this board has the sky is falling attitude posted over every little thing, we'll talk about it.
Then another minor incident will happen and chicken little will show his face again

 

[ruready4somefootball]

No offense, OP but this is common sense. I am thinking that you are very young.

Yup, I'm 60 years young. Seems, I'm hardly the only one who feels this way.
Shaun O'Hara ‏@ShaunOHara60 12h12 hours ago

Since his spineless President & his silent AD wont, I would like to publicly state my support for @KyleFloodRU & his INTEGRITY @RUAthletics

 

[MADHAT1]

Yup, I'm 60 years young. Seems, I'm hardly the only one who feels this way.
Shaun O'Hara ‏@ShaunOHara60 12h12 hours ago

Since his spineless President & his silent AD wont, I would like to publicly state my support for @KyleFloodRU & his INTEGRITY @RUAthletics

Have a thread on that tweet, but Shaun damaged RU reputation more by that tweet than hurt either Barchi or Hermann.
O'Hara made RU look like it's leadership is more dysfunctional than competent .
Giving more ammunition for the media to use against Flood and the University during the course of this investigation.

 

[ruready4somefootball]

"O'Hara made RU look like it's leadership is more dysfunctional than competent" And that would be 100% true.I see nothing wrong with what Shaun said. THEY are inept in what they do, and no way will this make Flood look worse. It will only show that his hands are tied trying to work within this "dysfunctional" maze.

 

[OntheBanks]

Why don't everyone take a deep breath and wait a few days. Barchi is supposedly returning from vacation today and he may have more pressing issues to address with the beginning of the school year. He is, by the way, the leader of a very large university and an email sent by a football coach is a very minor blip on his radar.

 

[RU4Real]

"O'Hara made RU look like it's leadership is more dysfunctional than competent" And that would be 100% true.I see nothing wrong with what Shaun said. THEY are inept in what they do, and no way will this make Flood look worse. It will only show that his hands are tied trying to work within this "dysfunctional" maze.

What part of "Barchi can't comment while there is an investigation ongoing" do you not understand?

Any statements made by either Julie or Barchi would have to be completely limited to "I can't comment on this situation while the investigation is ongoing".

What's the point of that? Besides, I'm certain that they've already been contacted by the media, their offices have already deferred comment and, since that's completely uninteresting, the media hasn't reported it.

 

[Rufaninga]

Why don't everyone take a deep breath and wait a few days. Barchi is supposedly returning from vacation today and he may have more pressing issues to address with the beginning of the school year. He is, by the way, the leader of a very large university and an email sent by a football coach is a very minor blip on his radar.

Well it is Barchi, and based how he has handled athletics situations in the past there's a very good chance he won't bother to view the email at all.

 

[PaKnight]

Well it is Barchi, and based how he has handled athletics situations in the past there's a very good chance he won't bother to view the email at all.

So?

 

[RutgersUnion]

There is a running joke on this board that JH feels the need to apologize for everything under the sun but when there is an investigation (minor or not) involving the HC of the largest program under her jurisdiction shes nowhere to be found? Based on the way shes dealt with the media in the past I dont understand why everyone thinks shes chosen now to become media savy.

 

[ruready4somefootball]

So?

So, really? You mean if in fact he ruled on the issue WITHOUT looking at the e-mail, you'd have no problem with that?WOW.

 

[RU4Real]

So, really? You mean if in fact he ruled on the issue WITHOUT looking at the e-mail, you'd have no problem with that?WOW.

He doesn't "rule on the issue".

Oh.

My.

Freakin'.

God...

The investigation is being conducted by outside counsel. They will issue a determination as to whether there was a violation of Rutgers compliance policy, as well as the extent of that violation.

At that point, it would be appropriate for Barchi to meet with Julie and determine what, if any, disciplinary action is appropriate.

Since the union is already on the record as stating that they're looking for nothing more than policy clarification it's likely that's all that will come of this - the internal policy regarding contact between athletic department personnel and faculty will be revised and updated training standards will be implemented.

 

[zappaa]

Is it possible the investigation could take months and just pretty much disappear.
Flood keeps coaching and it just goes away? Maybe a blurb in a few months saying the matter has been resolved and all parties are on the same page?

 

[RCTrooper]

Nothing to see here. At most Flood will get censured and if he is smart, he will spin it as his desire to have a pulse on how his players are doing academically, since that is important in the Rutgers Football Value Proposition.

 

[PaKnight]

So, really? You mean if in fact he ruled on the issue WITHOUT looking at the e-mail, you'd have no problem with that?WOW.

He is the president of a major university, does he have to rule on every decision?

 

[Upstream]

Is it possible the investigation could take months and just pretty much disappear.
Flood keeps coaching and it just goes away? Maybe a blurb in a few months saying the matter has been resolved and all parties are on the same page?

Very possible.

But I think that because Rutgers prides itself on the APR for football, they will actually release the investigation findings. It is not beneficial to Rutgers, the football program, or Flood, for rumors to swirl that Rutgers only has a high APR because the coach influences grades, and Rutgers sweeps that fact under the rug. It is far better for Rutgers, the football program, and Flood, for an outside organization to conduct a thorough investigation, and then Rutgers to release the results of the investigation, maintaining the integrity of the APR.

 

[RUSONIC]

If I was Julie my statement would have been
" We have been made aware of a email from coach Flood to a faculty member regarding one of his players grades. We have decide to do an internal investigation to make sure coach Flood did not break any rules. I have confidence in coach Flood that there was no ill intent, however if something arises that may put the athletic department and university in jeopardy we will take appropriate measures to correct the situation."

 

[mdk01]

If I was Julie my statement would have been
" We have been made aware of a email from coach Flood to a faculty member regarding one of his players grades. We have decide to do an internal investigation to make sure coach Flood did not break any rules. I have confidence in coach Flood that there was no ill intent, however if something arises that may put the athletic department and university in jeopardy we will take appropriate measures to correct the situation."

I understand where you're going, but wouldn't the comment you bolded simply trigger a flurry of headlines screaming there's going to be a whitewash and cover up? Don't feed the trolls.

 

[PaKnight]

I understand where you're going, but wouldn't the comment you bolded simply trigger a flurry of headlines screaming there's going to be a whitewash and cover up? Don't feed the trolls.

Not sure why people can't understand that. There have been two leaks out of the athletic department since the story broke that have been favorable to KF. First, the Joe Shad report that said that Kyle did not try to influence the grade and the Kristian Dyer story, where it was not expected to lead to suspension or termination.

 

[BoroKnight]

I remember a situation back in 1989. At a public forum, a softball player gets up and basically calls Pat Willis a racist. We at the T^*&^m didn't exactly have a choice; we didn't bury it. The forum was over the weekend. Monday went by. Tuesday went by. Wednesday. Thursday I get a phone call from the assistant sports media relations director requesting a "more positive" story. Well, if NOBODY from the university is going to say anything, on whom and what are we going to base this "more positive story?" Thankfully, at the same time I'm on the phone, several of her players -- most of them, in fact -- came into the office to defend her after several days of silence. The next day, Willis agreed to talk to us. Five days after the incident. Gruninger never said a word.

Now that was only softball, but being called a racist isn't exactly something you want on the resume, and certainly not something a university wants on its coaching staff. And nothing was said. And there was no investigation to compromise, no Ledger to dance with, just us and an ugly charge that had to be refuted.

The reasons for keeping quiet this time are far more logical and far more defensible. Keep quiet, Julie. You and/or Barchi (if he even knows about this) will know when to comment.

 

[graystork]

Well it is Barchi, and based how he has handled athletics situations in the past there's a very good chance he won't bother to view the email at all.

Well played sir.

 

[Knightmoves]

Some of our posters seem to think that Barchi is the AD. He's not. No reason for him to get publicly involved in a RU athletic situation unless he needs to bail out his AD. And in this case he doesn't need to do that.

 

[Abro1975]

Flood is the highest paid employee in the state let alone the University , and the last time Barchi stuck his head in the sand he embarrassed himself as well as the University. He is more than an accountant doing a merger, he's the Friggen President of one of the largest Universities in the World, as well as an empty suit. If he doens't want to do his job , he should quit.

"“I consider resigning every single day when I wake up,” Barchi said Friday, facing the news media in the largest news conference in Rutgers history.“I consider resigning every single day when I wake up,” Barchi said Friday, facing the news media in the largest news conference in Rutgers history."

"Barchi not only failed to watch the DVD of Rice’s antics when it first surfaced in November, he made the final decision to suspend and not fire the coach without ever meeting with the independent investigator from the law firm".

Some of our posters seem to think that Barchi is the AD. He's not. No reason for him to get publicly involved in a RU athletic situation unless he needs to bail out his AD. And in this case he doesn't need to do that.

 

[Ole Cabbagehead]

It is unfathomable how many times certain posters, presumably college graduates, need the same basic premises of management explained to them. At this point I have to assume you all get it, and that no amount of reasoning or explanation will dissuade you from your viewpoint that Julie and Dr. Barchi are incompetent.

 

[Abro1975]

Last week USC President Max Nikias , met with Coach Steve Sarkisian, and then addressed the Media after Sarkisians drunken speech.

Last week Baylor's President Ken Starr met with Coach Art Briles and then addressed the Media after a Baylor football player was convicted of raping a Baylor student.

Last week RU Robert Barchi couldn't be found. Julie Hermann had no comment.

 

[Knightmoves]

Abro1975,

Are the Sarkisian and Briles situations in the same stratosphere as the Flood situation ?

Robert Barchi is not the RU AD or the spokesman for the Athletic Dept, except in very special situations. And this isn't one of them.

The only people who are truly spooked by the Flood situation are some of our board posters. By opening day next week I expect that it will not be a relevant topic at RU tailgate gatherings before the Norfolk State game. Go RU !

 

[Abro1975]

Briles situation is probably worse, and the AD and President both spoke to the Media..

As for Sarkisian , I'm not sure if Flood sending an email is not as bad or worse than humiliating the program in front of sponsors, fans, public etc. But again, the President & AD Both spoke to the media.

Barchi is in an undisclosed location, seemingly, and Hermann is the quietest AD in NCAA history.

Both should have made innocuous statements, similiar to what the Presidents and ADs of Baylor and USC did. Instead they let Flood twist in the wind, and be subject to 7 smear pieces a day from the Star Ledger/NJcom.

Abro1975,

Are the Sarkisian and Briles situations in the same stratosphere as the Flood situation ?

Robert Barchi is not the RU AD or the spokesman for the Athletic Dept, except in very special situations. And this isn't one of them.

The only people who are truly spooked by the Flood situation are some of our board posters. By opening day next week I expect that it will not be a relevant topic at RU tailgate gatherings before the Norfolk State game. Go RU !

 

[PaKnight]

Last week USC President Max Nikias , met with Coach Steve Sarkisian, and then addressed the Media after Sarkisians drunken speech.

Last week Baylor's President Ken Starr met with Coach Art Briles and then addressed the Media after a Baylor football player was convicted of raping a Baylor student.

Last week RU Robert Barchi couldn't be found. Julie Hermann had no comment.

The investigation was still ongoing, the smart move is to say nothing until it is complete.

 

[Abro1975]

They could have said that at a minimum , and could have supported Flood at the same time. Something like :
'The Kyle Flood we know has always worked in the highest integrity possible. We understand there might be an email sent that could have been against University guidelines, and we are investigating that. We hope that Coach Flood receives the benefit of the doubt from the media and fans until the investigation is completed. We hope that just a policy refresher is necessary if an infraction is found. If something else is warranted, we will address it at the appropriate time with the appropriate parties. Please respect Coach Flood as well as the student athlete involved. Coach Flood has our confidence, as he has earned it from his previous interactions with students and faculty. We look forward to completing the investigation asap.'

Go RU

The investigation was still ongoing, the smart move is to say nothing until it is complete.

 

[Upstream]

Abro and his ilk strive for mediocrity for Rutgers. I didn't go to Rutgers, so it really doesn't directly affect me. But as a New Jersey resident, I would hope my State University could achieve so much more.

 

[Trekology]

So, really? You mean if in fact he ruled on the issue WITHOUT looking at the e-mail, you'd have no problem with that?WOW.

Barchi doesn't, and shouldn't, micromanage every aspect of the University. He has people in positions that report to him that are more than capable of making decisions on various matters, including this one. The outside law firm conducting the investigation is going to author a report of their findings and make recommendations for remediation.

 

[RU Husky]

Abro - you are pathetically naive. If you think a statement from Barchi or JH- even if it was the most perfectly crafted statement of all time- would sooth the savage beast, you are most certainly misguided. Perhaps, just perhaps, Barchi and Julie have reached out to Flood and given him a strong, but private, vote of confidence. Maybe not what you wanted in a war on the Media, but maybe what KF needed to get ready for the season opener.

 

[Abro1975]

Unlike you I am a graduate of Rutgers College (1975) and feel RU is being let down by it's President. I have seen many RU Presidents, ADs and coaches come and go since my freshman year in 1971, and am so disappointed at the lack of support being given to Coach Flood by Barchi.
I wrote above how the Presidents & ADs of USC & Baylor addressed the media before the completion of their investigations of Sarkisian and Briles. THATs how you handle things. The media is now quiet in those cases, Baylor investigation still ongoing and USC quickly handled theirs'.

Upstream, you are a fraud. Go root for Syracuse.

Abro and his ilk strive for mediocrity for Rutgers. I didn't go to Rutgers, so it really doesn't directly affect me. But as a New Jersey resident, I would hope my State University could achieve so much more.

 

[Trekology]

am so disappointed at the lack of support being given to Coach Flood by Barchi.

What would a public statement accomplish other than making you feel better? For starters it would put the story back in the news and give the SL something to actually report on (other than unattributed "sources" and quotes from people who clearly have no firsthand knowledge of the circumstances). It would make it appear that the results from the independent investigation don't matter and that decisions have already been made. It would also signal that internal rules and policy don't actually apply equally. These obviously aren't true but that's what the story would become in the press.

 

[Abro1975]

Why do you think the USC and Baylor Presidents made statements about their coaches and programs???
To let let the media know the coaches are respected by the schools, while an investigation proceeds.
Why is that so hard to understand ?

Meanwhile the friggen Ledger just put up a crap full blown editorial about Flood. This is what happens when your President is in an undisclosed location w his head up his butt, and the AD can't be trusted in front of a microphone.

What would a public statement accomplish other than making you feel better? For starters it would put the story back in the news and give the SL something to actually report on (other than unattributed "sources" and quotes from people who clearly have no firsthand knowledge of the circumstances). It would make it appear that the results from the independent investigation don't matter and that decisions have already been made. It would also signal that internal rules and policy don't actually apply equally. These obviously aren't true but that's what the story would become in the press.

 

[ru66]

and "his ilk" what's this nonsense--what, one can't have an opinion if it in anyway touches julie??? what nonsense and what a weak attempt at bullying

 

[ruready4somefootball]

Abro and his ilk strive for mediocrity for Rutgers. I didn't go to Rutgers, so it really doesn't directly affect me. But as a New Jersey resident, I would hope my State University could achieve so much more.

WTF does that mean? You lost me,Upstream.No balls, and I mean none shown by Mr."I didn't view the tape" and by Ms."I wish I had them".

 

[Ole Cabbagehead]

The difference is that in both the Sarkisian and Briles situations, all of the facts have already occurred. So the relevant parties could comment immediately. In Flood's situation, someone has to go through all of his personal emails. If you comment without knowing the facts, you risk looking like an idiot.

A second difference is that conduct Texans will overlook in the name of a winning football team would not fly here.

Finally, why are people making it seem like Barchi is in hiding. Isn't he just on vacation?

 

[bac2therac]

and "his ilk" what's this nonsense--what, one can't have an opinion if it in anyway touches julie??? what nonsense and what a weak attempt at bullying

please tell me ONE THING that Julie has done wrong publicly with this situation. She didn't make the rule and she didn't break a rule. Yet you think there is some reason that she should be criticized...please tell me what that is oh wise sage

 

[Abro1975]

Wrong on the Baylor case, they are just now starting the investigation if Briles and the Football Dept knew or did not know of the convicted rapists past history at Boise St. The Florida program states they wouldn't touch this kid, yet Baylor claims they didn't know. Anyway, Baylor case is far, far from over, but their President & AD came out making statements and at least acting like Presidents and ADs should. And now few are talking about Baylor while the investigation proceeds, because their President and AD got out in front of the story (again the story was NOT so much the Rape, but why this guy was allowed in , in the first place.

PS- what President goes on vacation the week incoming freshmen come in ? And even if he was stupid enough to go on that very busy week, does he not have a cell phone?
Geez.

The difference is that in both the Sarkisian and Briles situations, all of the facts have already occurred. So the relevant parties could comment immediately. In Flood's situation, someone has to go through all of his personal emails. If you comment without knowing the facts, you risk looking like an idiot.

A second difference is that conduct Texans will overlook in the name of a winning football team would not fly here.

Finally, why are people making it seem like Barchi is in hiding. Isn't he just on vacation?

 

[Trekology]

Why do you think the USC and Baylor Presidents made statements about their coaches and programs???
To let let the media know the coaches are respected by the schools, while an investigation proceeds.
Why is that so hard to understand ?

Meanwhile the friggen Ledger just put up a crap full blown editorial about Flood. This is what happens when your President is in an undisclosed location w his head up his butt, and the AD can't be trusted in front of a microphone.

It is hard to understand because it just wouldn't happen.

Do you seriously think that if Barchi had made some type of statement to the effect of "We support the coach" that the knobheads at the NJ.com would change their tune? The editorial was published because there wasn't a statement from the president? Come on.