Notre Dame Eyeing Big Ten
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You cannot make general statements about a complicated contract that is likely drafted in ND's favor as they were in the superior position when it was executed.
What is the consideration to ND that would make the conference restriction enforceable? ND did just have their hockey program join the B1G, so there are exceptions. Also, ND is not stupid. Even if the restrictions are enforceable there has to be some kind of out for ND.
Secondly I highly doubt the GOR covers football.
What is the consideration to ND that would make the conference restriction enforceable? ND did just have their hockey program join the B1G, so there are exceptions. Also, ND is not stupid. Even if the restrictions are enforceable there has to be some kind of out for ND.
Secondly I highly doubt the GOR covers football.
Apologize to those who misunderstood his points on ND? Huh? How about apologizing for mis-stating his point on ND.
If it were to happen I would have preferred us and ND in the last expansion. And let Maryland stay in the ACC.
But as it is now I feel like the Maestro when he was talking to Jerry about Tuscany, "I'm sorry but there is nothing there for you."
But as it is now I feel like the Maestro when he was talking to Jerry about Tuscany, "I'm sorry but there is nothing there for you."
ESPNU would likely be their "Group of 5 channel". P5 games on ABC/ESPN/2 and AAC, MWC, C-USA, MAC, and Sun Belt on ESPNU/3/News.
You take Notre Dame because of what they bring to the table without any stipulations.
Agreed. The contract that ND can only join the ACC in football is likely only valid while their other sports are members of the ACC. Once the GORs expire, they can probably move their teams to another conference which will free up their football team from the ACC commitment. We've been through this before. Notre Dame is the primary beneficiary of any deal that Notre Dame signs.
ND joins, and they'd need a partner, like UVA. It then makes sense to organize teams into pods. RU could be in a four team pod with MD, PSU, and UVA. Better than the situation we're in now.
Brando's heavy back pedal tells me that ND is not locked into the ACC. ACC network is nothing but a new LHN to appease FSU and to some extent ND and Clemson. Can't wait to see it all blow back in ESPN's face when their top teams follow the money to the B1G and SEC. Wake Forest @ Cuse is a must see football game.
That is not the case, since they have their own network affiliate in NBC. They are probably comparing their NBC contract with the new BIG contract and its' impact on revenue projections.
Let's not be too condescending as Ill. vs RU or Indiana vs. RU is a par on wake and sara
I don't know what they'd do with the divisions, but I feel very confident that Notre Dame does not want to be in the West and couldn't care less about where Northwestern is in the setup. In the last 20 years they've played Northwestern once.
according to Sirius radio this am,the big 12 is forced to make an expansion to survive. texas will refuse to do so and has texas tech and tcu int their back pocket to block expansion. if this happens, the big 12 will implode. according to the experts, texas will go to the acc and nd will go with them. the acc would become super strong. espn is all in.
LC-88 is very perceptive above. Pay attention to what he wrote...
The question is...who is going to start the next round....
The ACC and Big12 remain extremely vunderable
The SEC and the Big10 get richer
And the Pac-12 is in the middle....
Pac-12 is the one that needs to make a bold move...otherwise it will be in its current configuration without a good expansion opportunity for generations....not that its 12 team configuration is bad...but it want to be in the same league as the Big10 and SEC as truly a "HAVE conference"..and to that that....it must raid the Big12.
The question is...who is going to start the next round....
The ACC and Big12 remain extremely vunderable
The SEC and the Big10 get richer
And the Pac-12 is in the middle....
Pac-12 is the one that needs to make a bold move...otherwise it will be in its current configuration without a good expansion opportunity for generations....not that its 12 team configuration is bad...but it want to be in the same league as the Big10 and SEC as truly a "HAVE conference"..and to that that....it must raid the Big12.
I have officially heard everything
If you think the boys in Austin won't want to take marching orders from Jim Delany and Larry Scott, why on earth would ANYONE think that they would accept being in a conference where Tobacco Road rules the decision making and basketball is number one???
Even if the level of football is on par, the audiences are not. Two large, public, flagship schools compared to two small, private schools.
Who are "the experts" ? I just don't see this as being plausible. I could see Texas & OU in the Big Ten first.
Why would TCU and Tech block expansion so they can blow up the conference and end up in the AAC instead of the Big 12?
The GOR might cover an average of 2.5 games a year thanks to the 5 games a year deal they have with the ACC. But I kind of doubt it does. And realistically, a GOR that covers no football or maybe a dozen games over 5 years can be bought out "relatively cheaply." And Brando is kind of right in that if ND was to become a full member of a football league during that GOR they have to join the ACC. That being said there's always a dollar figure that can be reached on that. No one is forcing a school especially ND to join a conference they don't want to join. That said I just don't see ND joining a football league at any point soon.
No it doesn't. The Pac-12 has several schools not in the AAU so that's not a factor there realistically. As for the Big Ten, yes AAU Is preferred and for a school like us an absolute requirement. For an athletics program like Oklahoma, the AAU checkbox amounts to about a 5 minute stumbling block in negotiations. For an athletics program like UConn, I think the AAU thing can even be overcome but it's clearly much more of an issue than say for Oklahoma. The bigger issue for an Oklahoma is whether they can come without Okie State. If we have to take Okie State, it's a no-go.
Perfectly said. As for Okie State, as long as they have a landing P5 landing spot, Oklahoma should be able to move without them. Do they have that? I don't know.
If the PAC feels it needs to expand and their best choices are in the Vitamin Conference.
The Big 12 will try to stop the PAC from poaching their members by expanding.
I think UCF and Cincy might be who they look at , though BYU is an odds on favorite to join if the Vitamin expands.
Leaving the PAC looking at Houston and possibly BYU ( PAC has Utah so that might knock BYU out of contention) .
Boise St doesn't bring much to the table and it's time as a major conference candidate might be over. BYU not making PAC might change that if PAC doesn't bring in SMU so they have two teams in Texas.
I'm just throwing out expansion speculations and none of them are likely to happen
The Big 12 will try to stop the PAC from poaching their members by expanding.
I think UCF and Cincy might be who they look at , though BYU is an odds on favorite to join if the Vitamin expands.
Leaving the PAC looking at Houston and possibly BYU ( PAC has Utah so that might knock BYU out of contention) .
Boise St doesn't bring much to the table and it's time as a major conference candidate might be over. BYU not making PAC might change that if PAC doesn't bring in SMU so they have two teams in Texas.
I'm just throwing out expansion speculations and none of them are likely to happen
IM Sure the B10 is plotting to land UVA as its first choice if this all blows up.. U. of Florida as second choice.Notre Dame..same old story...B10 should tell them get lost.
Capt Delany says..Eastward Ho!
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Both are half right Delany would wants big $$$ market share so texas and nd would the top choices.
YES I know nd is not AAU. They are the exception to this rule or preference.
I know texas is like the Donald trump of football they will have to abide by the B10 rules and their arrogates, I really believe, outweighs their added value. If they do not fall into place UVA and nd would be a logical answer should texas have a temper tantrum with a restricted B10
B12 is in a no win holding pattern. For many of their members they need survival at any cost and best they can do is put off the inevitable.
ND contract I'm sure it's not as locked as the ACC will claim it is. They will do what they want as they see fit. BIG West is their best path but keeping their national games is an obstacle.
ND contract I'm sure it's not as locked as the ACC will claim it is. They will do what they want as they see fit. BIG West is their best path but keeping their national games is an obstacle.
i will believe those GoR's will stand up when someone challenges them and loses.
There will be a negotiation, the school will pay a fee, and be done with it.
There will be a negotiation, the school will pay a fee, and be done with it.
Maybe ESPN is prepared to cut the B1G lose and low ball the bid. If the B1G walks ESPN is prepared to let them go. The other players will not match the Fox offer, illustrating that Fox overpaid.
Maybe, there are other moves being considered by ESPN involving both Notre Dame and Texas.
ESPN having 100% rights to the SEC and ACC Conferences and SEC Network and potential ACC Network is a pretty positive incentive for ESPN.
When big money is involved anything can happen.
HAIL TO PITT!!!!
Maybe, there are other moves being considered by ESPN involving both Notre Dame and Texas.
ESPN having 100% rights to the SEC and ACC Conferences and SEC Network and potential ACC Network is a pretty positive incentive for ESPN.
When big money is involved anything can happen.
HAIL TO PITT!!!!
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If they walk, ESPN has no choice but to let them go. It won't be the end of ESPN for that to happen but you're a fool if you think they want to lose them.
It would not be the end for ESPN.
LOL
The B1G is important but there is only so much value in an Indiana vs Northwestern football game for example.
HAIL TO PITT!!!!
