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O.T.-Original Met,Jim Hickman dead at 79

I was only responding to the suggestion that Gil Hodges was the first representative.
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Yeah, I was taking a guess..... Too lazy to google, just taking a lousy stab at it...... Crazy that this stuff was 50 something years ago...
 
Not directly related, but in 1970 the Mets beat Denny Lemaster who started game 1 of a doubleheader, and then beat him again as a reliever in game 2.

I think that is the more plausible scenario... starter gets knocked out early in game 1, and comes back in relief in game 2.

I think sometimes a reliever has won both games of a doubleheader, but I can't come up with an example offhand. Maybe a reliever has saved both games? That would be more likely. Of course, there are so few doubleheaders these days except for rainouts. I always liked going to doubleheaders.
 
I think sometimes a reliever has won both games of a doubleheader, but I can't come up with an example offhand. Maybe a reliever has saved both games? That would be more likely. Of course, there are so few doubleheaders these days except for rainouts. I always liked going to doubleheaders.
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Remember I am old and this is just what I recall ... I thought Stengel had the starter pulled after get bombed in game one and then just started him in game two because he did not throw that many pitches..... I am probably wrong.
 
The best press conferences of all time were those of Mr. Stengel.An amazing man. He and Yogi were just what we needed in the years after WW2. To laugh and enjoy what was then our great American past time.
 
Wasn't it Canizzaro that Stengel said "He's 20...and in 10 years he has a good chance to be 30"?
That was Greg Goossen. Probably best known for his inclusion (not terribly complimentary) in Jim Bouton's "Ball Four". Was part of the most significant baseball event in the last 50 years IMO -- he was involved in the Curt Flood trade in 1970.
 
Actually, I was wrong on Youngblood. He did not play for both teams in a doubleheader. His story is a bit different, on August 4, 1982 he was traded to the Expos after playing for the Mets in a day game. It happened that the Expos were playing at the Phillies that night, and he made it to Philadelphia in time to participate.
 
Actually, I was wrong on Youngblood. He did not play for both teams in a doubleheader. His story is a bit different, on August 4, 1982 he was traded to the Expos after playing for the Mets in a day game. It happened that the Expos were playing at the Phillies that night, and he made it to Philadelphia in time to participate.
You are probably right. I do remember him playing for two different teams on the same day.
 
That was Greg Goossen. Probably best known for his inclusion (not terribly complimentary) in Jim Bouton's "Ball Four". Was part of the most significant baseball event in the last 50 years IMO -- he was involved in the Curt Flood trade in 1970.
Wasn't that after someone asked about Kranepool and he replied " he'll be a star in 10 years by the time he's 30.
 
Craig Anderson, my pitching coach in college, won both ends of a double header, then lost I think 15 straight games. It stood for a long time, until broken by Anthony Young in I think 1992.
 
I just checked the 1962 Mets stats on google. I was wrong Roger Craig won 10 games with a record of 10-24. Al Jackson was 8020 and Jay Hook was 8-19. Frank Thomas hit 34 home runs and Marv Thronberry had 16. He played in the 50's for the Yankees. Clem Labine was also on the Mets for a cup of tea. Richie Ashburn hit .306 for the Mets. Gus Bell and Gene Woodling were also former good players who were on the Mets in 62. Woodling was always one of my favorite Yankees.
He and Yogi had the weirdest stances of almost any player of that era, but they worked.
 
Craig Anderson, my pitching coach in college, won both ends of a double header, then lost I think 15 straight games. It stood for a long time, until broken by Anthony Young in I think 1992.
Something to think about, winning both ends of a doubleheader and ending the season with 16 straight losses after those wins
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craig_Anderson_(right-handed_pitcher
( For those who don't like Wikipedia, yes I know it's not the best source of info, feel free to post a better one)
 
As I remember, without a google because it is more fun that way, it took the mets a number of games each year to win their first.... The first year I think they lost the first nine games, then year two the first eight, something like that.

Back then expansion teams seemed to be given less to start with, than later day expansion teams.....

Edit: Ok, I cheated now, Google search, they lost their first six openers, won one, then back to losing openers.
 
While we are on Mets trivia, who was the Met player that was the last active Brooklyn Dodger player?
 
I think that would be Bob Aspromonte. Played in one game for the Brooklyn Dodgers at age 18. Ended his career as a Met in 1971.
 
July 1975....... Felix Millan batting second, gets four singles...... And Joe Torre, batting third, then hits into Four double plays..... A record of sorts in the national league
 
Mr Berra had a beautiful stance 52.
Perfectly balanced, definitely not awkward.

I don't remember anything weird about Yogi's stance. What made him distinctive, as I recall, is that he was very effective hitting pitches that weren't in the strike zone. The following quote is attributed to Yogi: "how can you hit and think at the same time?"
 
I don't remember anything weird about Yogi's stance. What made him distinctive, as I recall, is that he was very effective hitting pitches that weren't in the strike zone. The following quote is attributed to Yogi: "how can you hit and think at the same time?"
My dad scolded a young Don Mattingly for swinging and missing a ball obviously out of the strike zone. Mattingly looked at dad and said "you swung at bad pitches" dad said "yea but I hit em, you don't"
Great call on Aspro!
Sad to say, I'm old enough to have known both Goosen and Chilcott well...lol
My favorite Met was Tommy Davis, he had a good year for us and was a super nice guy. He told me stories about Willie Davis and how fast he was when they were Dodger team mates
 
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Tommy Davis drove in the only run in Game 2 (I think) of the 1963 world series with a base hit off Jim Bouton. In Ball Four, Bouton recounts a conversation with Davis when the two met as members of the Seattle Pilots in 1969. Davis called the hit "a line drive:" Bouton called it "a ground ball on twenty hops that hit off Bobby Richardson's knee."
 
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Hey Zaapa, question for you on the Yankees Old Timers Day. While watching the replay last week, we were discussing whether former players get paid to appear. I guessed that they may get travel expenses, but a friend said they get paid plus travel.

Thanks.
 
Thanks Zaapa. I would think the get-together would be worth it to the guys. I know I certainly never got anything from my Alumni baseball game (other than a T-Shirt), but the BS'ing etc was more than worth it to me.

Yankees Trivia time... Name the Yankees Manager (since 1923) that won 142 games as manager, yet did not win a single game at Yankee Stadium...
 
1962 was 2nd grade for me and the first year we all started collecting base ball cards.I remember Hickman looking like he should have been on the Andy Griffith show.Damned talented ballplayer


13 and in the 2nd grade....quite an accomplishment.

MO
PS Loved Cho Cho Coleman...and Casey explaining whatever it was he was explaining by using the same words over / over again and Linday Nelson's : "you see it there".
 
Thanks Zaapa. I would think the get-together would be worth it to the guys. I know I certainly never got anything from my Alumni baseball game (other than a T-Shirt), but the BS'ing etc was more than worth it to me.

Yankees Trivia time... Name the Yankees Manager (since 1923) that won 142 games as manager, yet did not win a single game at Yankee Stadium...
Bill Virdon?
 
oh, of course! when he managed, the Yankees were playing at Shea Stadium. I may be wrong, but I think I remember Bill Virdon as making a marvelous catch in deep center during game four (I think?) of the 1960 world series. It was a very close game, and so the catch was essential to the Pirates' victory in that game and the Series.
 
oh, of course! when he managed, the Yankees were playing at Shea Stadium. I may be wrong, but I think I remember Bill Virdon as making a marvelous catch in deep center during game four (I think?) of the 1960 world series. It was a very close game, and so the catch was essential to the Pirates' victory in that game and the Series.
Camden-
That Pirate team with Groat, Maz, Clemente, Virdon and Hoak played great defense.
But they still had Dr. Strangeglove at 1st...lol
 
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