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O.T.-Original Met,Jim Hickman dead at 79

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That Pirate team with Groat, Maz, Clemente, Virdon and Hoak played great defense.
But they still had Dr. Strangeglove at 1st...lol

Yes, I recall Dick Stuart. In the 7th game in 1960, the Pirates instead started Rocky Nelson at 1b, and he hit a home run in the early going.

I also remember how great Clemente's arm was. No one was going from first to third on him!
 
Camden-
That Pirate team with Groat, Maz, Clemente, Virdon and Hoak played great defense.
But they still had Dr. Strangeglove at 1st...lol
Dick's fielding was what made him special [winking]
 
As a kid in 1969, I was 14, we went to a scheduled doubleheader at Shea against the Houston Astros. The Mets won both games, 1-0, with the starting pitchers driving in both runs. I wonder if that ever happened before or since?
 
As a kid in 1969, I was 14, we went to a scheduled doubleheader at Shea against the Houston Astros. The Mets won both games, 1-0, with the starting pitchers driving in both runs. I wonder if that ever happened before or since?
Back in those days, starting pitchers would be bunting runners over in the 8th inning of tie and one run behind ball games.
Gil Hodges would never take out a Seaver or a Koosman in that situation, those games were theirs to win or lose.
With a starting pitcher like Seaver up in a close game with nobody on base in the bottom of the 8th of a close game, he hits. You take your chances holding them and leading off the bottom of the ninth with the top of your lineup
 
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Back in those days, starting pitchers would be bunting runners over in the 8th inning of tie and one run behind ball games.
Gil Hodges would never take out a Seaver or a Koosman in that situation, those games were theirs to win or lose.
With a starting pitcher like Seaver up in a close game with nobody on base in the bottom of the 8th of a close game, he hits. You take your chances holding them and leading off the bottom of the ninth with the top of your lineup

As I remember, Seaver was a good hitter. But I do remember Ken(?) Boswell hitting for him late.

It is worth looking at the records of the 1957 and 1958 World Series. I don't believe that Milwaukee manager Fred Haney ever used a reliever in those two seven game series.
 
Back in those days, starting pitchers would be bunting runners over in the 8th inning of tie and one run behind ball games.
Gil Hodges would never take out a Seaver or a Koosman in that situation, those games were theirs to win or lose.
With a starting pitcher like Seaver up in a close game with nobody on base in the bottom of the 8th of a close game, he hits. You take your chances holding them and leading off the bottom of the ninth with the top of your lineup

Especially in '68. The pitching was so dominant then, who would have taken out a starting pitcher?
 
I don't think this ever happened.

According to the linked article, the last pitcher to start both ends was Wilbur Wood in 1973. Al Santorini did it in 1971 but with an asterisk, he was pulled after one batter in game 1 in a righty/lefty gambit. Prior to that, the last man to do it was Don Newcombe in 1950.

The article is of course unofficial and I make no claims to its accuracy.
https://prestonjg.wordpress.com/200...games-of-a-doubleheader-in-the-major-leagues/

I saw the Wilbur Wood starts. He was with the White Sox and the doubleheader was at Yankee Stadium. He got knocked out very early in the first game and came back and started the second game. I don't think he lasted too long in that one either.
 
Back in those days, starting pitchers would be bunting runners over in the 8th inning of tie and one run behind ball games.
Gil Hodges would never take out a Seaver or a Koosman in that situation, those games were theirs to win or lose.
With a starting pitcher like Seaver up in a close game with nobody on base in the bottom of the 8th of a close game, he hits. You take your chances holding them and leading off the bottom of the ninth with the top of your lineup

That's how I remember it when watching a close game and pitcher coming up.
But think ( probably wrong since haven followed BB for awhile) the current crop of pitchers and has been that way for awhile don't execute the bunt as good as they should and the art of bunting , by position players , has been lost as well.
Wonder if others agree with me , or just consider my opinion a rant by an old fool :chairshot: that thinks the game was played better years ago. :baseball::mad:
 
I saw the Wilbur Wood starts. He was with the White Sox and the doubleheader was at Yankee Stadium. He got knocked out very early in the first game and came back and started the second game. I don't think he lasted too long in that one either.
Probably was saving himself for day 3, just in case.
 
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