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Official Head Coaching Candidate thread

Is it the Princeton coach or the OC hw just lost to Oklahoma state?
Sean Gleeson could be one for the future. Don't know about Surace.

Read something about coordinators and I kind of agree with it thinking about it...from that pool not as many high profile offensive names as there are defensive like Venables/Aranda/Elko/Grinch etc.... quite a few of these offensive head coaches like to call their own plays or are quite involved which kind of puts a damper on the offensive coaches coming up and making a name for themselves.
 
This is who I'd be looking at if I were Hobbs, in no particular order, with some notes lifted from vkj91's credible post:

Jim McElwain: 46-29 as a HC. Won 2 SEC titles. Would imagine he wants back into P5 and did a nice job at Colorado State, too.

Jason Candle: Toledo, 29-14. Worth talking to, although he took over a program that had had two straight good HCs.

Lance Leipold: A coach's coach, as respected as anyone in the game because coaches know his value. Won't win 100 of his first 106 games as he did at Whitewater, but he is a custom made Big Ten coach. better recruiter than people realize, too.

Mike Houston: ECU via JMU. Lots of area recruiting ties. 81-27 as college HC. 42-18 as HS head coach. Probably won't have a good record at ECU this year, but that program was a dumpster fire. Underrated candidate.

Willie Fritz: 173-91 as a college head coach; he's for real. Does he translate to New Jersey and Rutgers? I'd be more concerned about his age than that. He might just want that shot at a power conference job, and the window won't be open forever.

Jeff Tedford. Only two losing seasons at Cal. Killing it at Fresno. He seems to know how to do this.

I can't think of any current coordinators who make me feel like they'd be a worthwhile roll of the dice.

Norvell, Heupel, Litrell - their moments for Rutgers have passed. They will take higher-profile jobs than that and are likely beyond Rutgers' reach, salary-wise. Rod Carey's buyout is, I believe, $10 million, $10 million, and $8 million for the next three years, so he's staying put. Also would be looking higher if he were going to make a move.

Fleck doesn't seem like a real solution, even if he's miles better than Ash. I guess he could go on the talk-to list. He'd shake things up, that's for sure.

Rich Rodriguez and Charlie Strong are yesterday's newspaper. Whatever made Rich Rod innovative has become commonplace; he's not different anymore. And Strong is just not a good head coach, apparently. And retreads are retreads. Schiano and Butch Jones could come in and improve things, but both are likelier to disappoint.

EDIT: There are two guys I forgot about, one of whom I just saw mentioned on this thread, Mike Elko, as well as Bob Surace.

Elko is really the only coordinator I can think of who would be appealing. The South Brunswick native is ready for that point in his career, and was favored early by Temple before he got a big salary boost from A&M. His interest may or may not have just been a negotiating ploy, but in any case, he's earned his shot now and I don't think it'll be long. The one drawback is his salary. I think he already makes something like $3.5 million as a coordinator. Wow. He's going to want a king's ransom to be a head coach.

And Princeton's Bob Surace might be my out of the box candidate. He is a Milville, N.J., native, and even though he recruits kids to play in the Ivy, look at his roster. He gets kids from Bergen Catholic, St. Joe's Prep (Philly), etc., so he can walk into those football offices and not have to introduce himself to the staff. He took Princeton from bottom-feeder to the very best in the Ivy despite having the battle one of the strictest admissions offices in the league.

The Aggies already exercised that right and extended Elko through January 2022. Under the terms of the current deal, Elko will make $2.1 million annually, an increase of $300,000 from his first year in A&M.

Thats alot of cash - but not $3.5 mil
 
The Aggies already exercised that right and extended Elko through January 2022. Under the terms of the current deal, Elko will make $2.1 million annually, an increase of $300,000 from his first year in A&M.

Thats alot of cash - but not $3.5 mil
Right, I was trying to remember it in relation to what Temple was offering, which was comparable to what he's making now. Hard to imagine he'd command less than that as a HC at a power conference school to start, though. I thought it seemed high as I was writing it, but these days, who knows?
 
Right, I was trying to remember it in relation to what Temple was offering, which was comparable to what he's making now. Hard to imagine he'd command less than that as a HC at a power conference school to start, though. I thought it seemed high as I was writing it, but these days, who knows?
There was an article last year about the highest paid coordinators having to a pay cut in order to become Head coaches. That shouldn’t apply to a P5 school but, hey we are Rutgers. Lol
 
Love Mike Houston. His pre-game locker room speeches are legendary. Made players and fans want to run through brick walls for him. And in his 3 seasons at JMU, he went to the National Championship game twice, won it once after beating NDSU in their stupid dome. Thing about him is he's one of those good ol' southern boys who probably wouldn't consider moving to NJ out of principle.







https://www.ncaa.com/video/football...p-james-madison-mike-houston-pregame-speeches
 
What’s so special about Gattis
I just think he’s the next big thing and Rutgers shouldn’t miss out on him like people did with James Franklin. He’s is a relentless recruiter and would get elite kids to go to Rutgers and not just jersey kids either.
 
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Love Mike Houston. His pre-game locker room speeches are legendary. Made players and fans want to run through brick walls for him. And in his 3 seasons at JMU, he went to the National Championship game twice, won it once after beating NDSU in their stupid dome. Thing about him is he's one of those good ol' southern boys who probably wouldn't consider moving to NJ out of principle.







https://www.ncaa.com/video/football...p-james-madison-mike-houston-pregame-speeches

I like that kind of passion

Is that what a real coach is supposed to do?
Is that how the majority of successful coaches talk to their team?
 
I think that blue sky lists like this should include Steve Spagnuolo and Rex Ryan. I don't know if either of them has any interest in coaching in college again, but if they did, they'd both be perfectly positioned for this job.
 
Les Miles.

That aside... I think Leach would be an interesting hire. We certainly need some character injected into the program.
 
Les Miles.

That aside... I think Leach would be an interesting hire. We certainly need some character injected into the program.
Leach is great, but I don't see why he would leave Wash St at 3.75 million to take on the job of building Rutgers.
 
Rex Ryan!?! Wtf

He'd be a better version of Herm Edwards at ASU. They were both made to be college coaches and just wound up coaching in the Pros. Rex has said he wants to get out of ESPN and back into coaching. Rex used to live in NJ. He's tailor-made to recruit high school kids. His style of football is perfect for playing outdoors in the northeast. He's exactly the type of guy who could legitimately walk into a high school kid's home in Union and say "Why would you want to go to Michigan when you could play outside linebacker on the best defense in college football at Rutgers?" Or "Why would you want to go to Wisconsin as a backup when my starting tailback is going to lead the country in touchdowns?" Instant credibility.
 
Leach is great, but I don't see why he would leave Wash St at 3.75 million to take on the job of building Rutgers.
He is not...every fan base wants him...Tennessee fans want him and every other P5 program in trouble wants him...I bet he’s happy as can be in Eastern Wash...
 
The opportunity to get Leach was when he was pushed out of TT.

I would love Norvell, Littrell, or Heupel... but agree at this point they all probably can hold out for a bigger gig.

I was one of the few that thought Herm Edwards was a good out of the box idea. I think Rex Ryan could be a good coach at the college level. I like semi-successful NFL coaches that are looking to re-establish themselves after not quite reaching their potential... as long as they have energy and charisma.

Still think GS is the safest choice. My big question would be does he have the energy and enthusiasm to start from virtually scratch again.....20 years later.

If we go with someone without HC experience it better be someone that can recruit lights out.
 
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yes, I know we have a head coach. Yes, I'd love for him to win 6 games. That being said, figure it would be "easier" to have one place for people who want to discuss potential hires. For those who think this "hurts" recruiting, I'm sorry. I did a pretty exhaustive search of guys I think could be candidates but I'm sure I missed a bunch.

Personally, I don't want another first time head coach but that doesn't mean they shouldn't be discussed. I also think it's very rare for a P5 guy to jump to another P5 school without a really compelling reason, as a result, I limited those names. These are in no real order. Have at it

Norvell: Memphis. He's my guy and have liked him since ASU days. Strong recruiter, winner, fun offense. Has beaten P5 teams while at Memphis. 37, makes under 2 million, won at least 8 games every year as a HC

Jim McElwain: 46-29 as a HC. Won 2 SEC titles. Would imagine he wants back into P5

Jason Candle: Toledo, 29-14. 39 years old. Scores points in bunches

Lance Leipold: can't argue results. Guy wins 133-35 as a HC. Will bring zero buzz but will definitely make you competitive and upset a few teams.

Mike Houston: ECU via JMU. Lots of area recruiting ties. 81-27 as college HC. 42-18 as HS head coach

Rod Carey: fact the Temple AD hired his is good enough for me. Huge buyout.

Luke Fickell: Think he has as much upside as anyone on this list. Can the fan base live with another midwestern OSU DC?

Josh Heupel: really like him but is it still Frost team and the epitome of a rental head coach.

Willie Fritz: excellent coach. Not sure he's a NJ fit but guy is turning around Tulane which is a horrible job. 173-91 as a college head coach

Bill Napier: not a huge track record only 9-8 as HC BUT has worked under Dabo, Saban, and Graham

Blake Anderson: Arkansas State 40-27. 3 conference titles. Fun Offense to watch

Seth Litrell. Maybe the hottest name out there. Probably getting SEC job

Bill Clark: UAB he's the southern version of Lance Leipold with even more wins

Jeff Tedford. only two losing seasons at Cal. Killing it at Fresno. would he come east? could he be our Bronco Mendenhall

P5 Guys:

Fleck: Doesn't want to be in Minnesota. I personally am not a fan and don't think he's a great coach but his teams find a way to win.

Campbell: @rutgersguy1 says he has a huge buyout. Sucks because to me he's a B1G type coach.

Retreads:
Schiano
Jones
Strong

Interesting coordinators:

Bob Shoop: Great DC, lots of area ties. Only HC job was a failure at Columbia
Steve Sarkisian: has he paid off his debt and fixed his image yet?
Phil Longo: NJ guy, huge resume, no HC experience
Dan Enos: Mixed bag as a HC but lots of P5 OC experience
Rich Rod: would take in heartbeat
I think the one thing you can say about all of this is that - if/when Hobbs has to make a head coaching change - it's going to be a big move. With all of the ground-laying he's done throughout the athletic department, especially with the basketball program, his second head football coaching hire is going to make waves in the P5, and it's going to be a hire to challenge the balance of power in the Big Ten.
 
USC may ultimately not be in the market for a coach this year also.

Amazing how they have three capable QBs. Just knocked off no. 10 w a third stringer.
Washington ND away on deck.... wouldn’t assume Helton is safe yet....freeing Harrell to reunite with Littrell in Piscataway. :Wink:
 
The dilemma Hobbs will face is identifying a candidate who meets the recruiting and experience requirements to be successful in the B1G and the financial constraints of Rutgers.The list of potential candidates doesn't impress me because the perception of Rutgers football requires a head coach with the cache to overcome all the negativity surrounding the program.When Stringer came to Rutgers she had the name recognition to recruit elite basketball players and the program was a national power for at least a decade.Such a person is needed for football which is the biggest money generator for Rutgers athletics.
 
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A friend gave me this Rex Ryan story ...
My friend and his wife were among many waiting to be seated at a Thai restaurant in New Providence. There were many others waiting, too. Rex Ryan and his wife arrived and the restaurant owner, knowing the Ryan’s as steady and good customers, seated them without delay. Before leaving Rex picked up the tab for everyone in the restaurant.
Great gesture!
 
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BTW another thing about Littrell is that while he's had multiple strong OC stints, he's also coached in the B10 before at IU...not a powerhouse obviously. Wilson took over as HC in 2011 and Littrell came on board for 2012-2013.

Offensive rankings in 2011 before Littrell Total/Scoring 83/101
Offensive rankings in 2012-2013 while Littrell was there Total Scoring 34/52 and 10/17

You can see the big jump and IU isn't a top tier school in the B10 obviously..has done similar good things at other places as OC and again at UNT both in offensive stats from year 1 to 2 and beyond and also took over a 1 win team....make sure he's got a good DC and I'll like him a lot, especially if Harrell also becomes available.

He may be out of reach but who knows depends on how this season goes...a down year and you never know.
 
The dilemma Hobbs will face is identifying a candidate who meets the recruiting and experience requirements to be successful in the B1G and the financial constraints of Rutgers.The list of potential candidates doesn't impress me because the perception of Rutgers football requires a head coach with the cache to overcome all the negativity surrounding the program.When Stringer came to Rutgers she had the name recognition to recruit elite basketball players and the program was a national power for at least a decade.Such a person is needed for football which is the biggest money generator for Rutgers athletics.
This is the second dumbest argument people here make. Sure, nobody’s is going to want a B1G job. If Iowa state, Purdue and Vanderbilt can get hot young names then so can Rutgers. What names would excite you
 
BTW another thing about Littrell is that while he's had multiple strong OC stints, he's also coached in the B10 before at IU...not a powerhouse obviously. Wilson took over as HC in 2011 and Littrell came on board for 2012-2013.

Offensive rankings in 2011 before Littrell Total/Scoring 83/101
Offensive rankings in 2012-2013 while Littrell was there Total Scoring 34/52 and 10/17

You can see the big jump and IU isn't a top tier school in the B10 obviously..has done similar good things at other places as OC and again at UNT both in offensive stats from year 1 to 2 and beyond and also took over a 1 win team....make sure he's got a good DC and I'll like him a lot, especially if Harrell also becomes available.

He may be out of reach but who knows depends on how this season goes...a down year and you never know.
I’d hire Wilson in a nano second
 
I think the one thing you can say about all of this is that - if/when Hobbs has to make a head coaching change - it's going to be a big move. With all of the ground-laying he's done throughout the athletic department, especially with the basketball program, his second head football coaching hire is going to make waves in the P5, and it's going to be a hire to challenge the balance of power in the Big Ten.
I think you are right. I don't think he is going to rush into this. I think he is going to do a lot of consulting with others as well as just listening to people who know the game. He may even hire a search team, not one made of people from Rutgers, but a professional organization.
 
Why would Sark leave a cushy job as an OC with all 5 star players to come to RU where the administration doesnt give a crap about football and you jump for joy when a 3 star commits.
 
This is who I'd be looking at if I were Hobbs, in no particular order, with some notes lifted from vkj91's credible post:

Jim McElwain: 46-29 as a HC. Won 2 SEC titles. Would imagine he wants back into P5 and did a nice job at Colorado State, too.

Jason Candle: Toledo, 29-14. Worth talking to, although he took over a program that had had two straight good HCs.

Lance Leipold: A coach's coach, as respected as anyone in the game because coaches know his value. Won't win 100 of his first 106 games as he did at Whitewater, but he is a custom made Big Ten coach. better recruiter than people realize, too.

Mike Houston: ECU via JMU. Lots of area recruiting ties. 81-27 as college HC. 42-18 as HS head coach. Probably won't have a good record at ECU this year, but that program was a dumpster fire. Underrated candidate.

Willie Fritz: 173-91 as a college head coach; he's for real. Does he translate to New Jersey and Rutgers? I'd be more concerned about his age than that. He might just want that shot at a power conference job, and the window won't be open forever.

Jeff Tedford. Only two losing seasons at Cal. Killing it at Fresno. He seems to know how to do this.

I can't think of any current coordinators who make me feel like they'd be a worthwhile roll of the dice.

Norvell, Heupel, Litrell - their moments for Rutgers have passed. They will take higher-profile jobs than that and are likely beyond Rutgers' reach, salary-wise. Rod Carey's buyout is, I believe, $10 million, $10 million, and $8 million for the next three years, so he's staying put. Also would be looking higher if he were going to make a move.

Fleck doesn't seem like a real solution, even if he's miles better than Ash. I guess he could go on the talk-to list. He'd shake things up, that's for sure.

Rich Rodriguez and Charlie Strong are yesterday's newspaper. Whatever made Rich Rod innovative has become commonplace; he's not different anymore. And Strong is just not a good head coach, apparently. And retreads are retreads. Schiano and Butch Jones could come in and improve things, but both are likelier to disappoint.

EDIT: There are two guys I forgot about, one of whom I just saw mentioned on this thread, Mike Elko, as well as Bob Surace.

Elko is really the only coordinator I can think of who would be appealing. The South Brunswick native is ready for that point in his career, and was favored early by Temple before he got a big salary boost from A&M. His interest may or may not have just been a negotiating ploy, but in any case, he's earned his shot now and I don't think it'll be long. The one drawback is his salary. I think he already makes something like $3.5 million as a coordinator. Wow. He's going to want a king's ransom to be a head coach.

And Princeton's Bob Surace might be my out of the box candidate. He is a Milville, N.J., native, and even though he recruits kids to play in the Ivy, look at his roster. He gets kids from Bergen Catholic, St. Joe's Prep (Philly), etc., so he can walk into those football offices and not have to introduce himself to the staff. He took Princeton from bottom-feeder to the very best in the Ivy despite having the battle one of the strictest admissions offices in the league.
You make some good points here, particularly about Surace. He is recruiting within his peer group now, but has relationships with all those key schools. That can’t be dismissed.
 
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The Aggies already exercised that right and extended Elko through January 2022. Under the terms of the current deal, Elko will make $2.1 million annually, an increase of $300,000 from his first year in A&M.

Thats alot of cash - but not $3.5 mil
No state income tax in Texas at least.
 
This is the second dumbest argument people here make. Sure, nobody’s is going to want a B1G job. If Iowa state, Purdue and Vanderbilt can get hot young names then so can Rutgers. What names would excite you
Ash was a hot name when he was selected.How has that worked out?If it was as easy as you profess, Rutgers football wouldn't be in its current difficult position.I have no names right now because I don't know how much money Rutgers can offer .The so called hot young names from other parts of the country might not be able to recruit local talent.
 
Ash was a hot name when he was selected.How has that worked out?If it was as easy as you profess, Rutgers football wouldn't be in its current difficult position.I have no names right now because I don't know how much money Rutgers can offer .The so called hot young names from other parts of the country might not be able to recruit local talent.
I think it’s a stretch to say Ash was a hot name at the time. Most of us were surprised when he became a leading candidate.
 
Jim McElwain
Steve Sarkisian
Butch Jones

If they don't at least get interviews if interested then Hobbs truly is clueless.
 
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