You should just delete your post. You are clueless.
OT: America's Fight Over Tipping at Restaurants Comes to Its Biggest Battleground Yet
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What are you talking about? Read the history of tipping coming to the US in the mid to late 1800s. It's an interesting historical perspective on capitalism and class differences in the 19th century and how these practices carried over to modern times.
Same place, or few places? You are blind to the facts. Get out more. More restaurants have cut the times then kept their old times.
I’ll just cook my own food. If I want to bring something in once in a while like a Popeyes spicy chicken sandwich ( which are great btw) I’ll go out and get myself. Never used UE or DD. Don’t have to deal with this additional tax ( tipping)
In Northern Europe the cost of a meal in a restaurant and drinks at a bar cover the staff expenses. Not cheap there.
All over. The restaurants I go to are generally open later than restaurants here.
OK, here's a different take on this. We don't tip in New Zealand. Not waiters, not taxis, and it's illegal in the casinos. Servers are paid a decent wage and do not expect a tip. In Auckland, some restaurants are trying to introduce it, and fooling international visitors, but 95% of the time, no tipping.
When you are done with your meal, you go up to the cashier and tell them where your table was. They then calculate the bill. And if you want to split it seven ways to Sunday, or have individual bills, they don't mind. Thus, you don't have to wait for the bill and don't have to worry about divvying it up. Really works well.
In the US, I usually tip 20%, except for breakfast where I overtip with good service, as the bill tends to be smaller and good service is often more important to an enjoyable meal.
When we first moved here, when our furniture arrived (finally), a three-man crew delivered it and schlepped it up steps and did a great job. About halfway through, I went up to the head guy of the crew and told him I was from the US and we tip everything that moves, and should I tip them? He said, "You can't tip me because I'm the owner, and really there is absolutely no need to tip the guys. They do not expect it." But I gave them $20 each and they thought it was fantastic. The owner's wife worked at the local Cadbury's plant and two days later, we had two big bags of Cadbury's chocolates outside our door. Yep, the worker tipped us!
What a country!
When you are done with your meal, you go up to the cashier and tell them where your table was. They then calculate the bill. And if you want to split it seven ways to Sunday, or have individual bills, they don't mind. Thus, you don't have to wait for the bill and don't have to worry about divvying it up. Really works well.
In the US, I usually tip 20%, except for breakfast where I overtip with good service, as the bill tends to be smaller and good service is often more important to an enjoyable meal.
When we first moved here, when our furniture arrived (finally), a three-man crew delivered it and schlepped it up steps and did a great job. About halfway through, I went up to the head guy of the crew and told him I was from the US and we tip everything that moves, and should I tip them? He said, "You can't tip me because I'm the owner, and really there is absolutely no need to tip the guys. They do not expect it." But I gave them $20 each and they thought it was fantastic. The owner's wife worked at the local Cadbury's plant and two days later, we had two big bags of Cadbury's chocolates outside our door. Yep, the worker tipped us!
What a country!
I still tip very well. Usually at least 20% but…the price increases are starting to make me reconsider. And now- restaurants are adding 3-4% if you pay by CC.
That is complete BS.
And I have actually challenged that charge if not on the menu.
That is complete BS.
And I have actually challenged that charge if not on the menu.
I mean the culture in many other European countries is eating dinner at 9-11pm. Do the math.
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Unless they play games with hours and employees cannot get enough hours.
But the story said the new owners spent a ridiculous sum on the place and maybe the employees are thinking it should be attracting the wealthy in teh area and they should tip well.
But maybe the owners don't want any celebs and friends that give them business to have to worry about tweets that they did not tip enough. There was recent viral video of some guy delivering a pizza who got a $5 tip and after looking at teh tip he did a double-take look at how nice the house was and actually had the nerve to say something like "that's a lot of house for a $5 tip".. to which the woman getting the pizza said "oh, how much should a tip on a $20 pizza be?"... I do not think the woman was actually asking to adjust her tipping.
I always hear TIP originally meant, to insure promptness. Like how you bribe a Matre D. I recall some Belmar summers where we found the place we wanted to drink and basically recruited a bartender friend by overtipping early in the summer. Kinda worked against the house eventually.. and our livers..
No. Sounds like Staten Island though . Who would have thought stAten island was ahead of things the past 30 Years
This thread reminded me of this recent story ...
Casa Bonita workers demand return to tipping
The iconic Denver restaurant isn't fully open yet, but workers have sent a petition seeking changes to pay and benefits.www.restaurantbusinessonline.com
The creators of South Park recently renovated and re-opened Casa Bonita in Denver. They didn't want tipping in the restaurant, so they prohibited it and instead upped waiter salaries to $30/hour. Well, the waiters are bitching and moaning because they want to go back to minimum wage and tipping.
That credit card debt point is BS (everyone is forgetting about the denominator). Watch from the 13:30 mark:
"Americans’ total credit card balance is $1.031 trillion in the second quarter of 2023, according to the latest consumer debt data from the Federal Reserve Bank of New York. That’s up from the first quarter of 2023’s record number, leaving the balance the highest since the New York Fed began tracking in 1999.
This is the first time credit card debt has topped $1 trillion in this country."
https://www.lendingtree.com/credit-cards/credit-card-debt-statistics/
Yeah it apparently originally started as that in Europe and then was brought here by wealthy Americans. It then was used as a way to hire really cheap expendable labor in mid to late 1800s in the hotel and train car world.
Household net worth also at all-time high. % of CC debt vs. household net worth way below past highs. Gotta look at the whole story, not just the clickbait headline.
For delivery my standard tip is 5 bucks. Has been forever. Doesn’t matter if I order a single pizza or 3 pizzas and a calzone. Always 5 bucks. Cabs is something similar. I’m not giving you 20% on a 60 dollar cab ride. Especially the dangerous way some cab drivers drive. Hotel cleaning staff 5 bucks. Wait staff always 20%. Even if it’s ehhh service. Moving people 20 to 40 bucks a person. That is crap and hard work. My landscaper is a j-off. Don’t tip him. When I order takeout and pick it up no tip.
I live in Pittsburgh so these numbers are a littler better with cost of living than NJ
I live in Pittsburgh so these numbers are a littler better with cost of living than NJ
You're conflating two data points. CC debt (at all-time highs) is borne by individuals who are not big earners and who are spending beyond their ability to cover expenses. They carry a growing balance these days and are vulnerable to late payments and default. Households/individuals who are higher earners (with higher net worth) are paying off monthly CC balances. Haves vs have nots.
FYI .. in my experience, working-class folks are often bigger tippers than their wealthy counterparts, in terms of percentage of tip. Wait staff themselves are often very big tippers.
You are only giving part of the story. Of course CC debt is at an all-time high, but so is the size of our economy, and most importantly so is household net worth. CC debt is LESS of a burden today than in past years. Once again, people freaking out over one number in isolation need to understand the context of the entire story.
Denominators matter.
At 15:00 or so they show a chart about all debt, mortages, etc... and it looks like the trend in auto loans and student loans shows overcharging by automakers and universities.
