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OT: Any Premier league fans on the board?

Areyounuts, Still waiting to hear back from you about where to find an Everton jersey in New Jersey.

Oh...shit...sorry! There used to be a great store in Hoboken, right on 1st St, but unfortunately they had to close thanks to landlord who decided to double their rent. Anyway, not really sure, I'd just do it online probably cheaper even with shipping!
 
Thanks, I'll let my buddy know--he is a big fan of them.--Hope the fundraiser went well last week.
 
Can someone explain how the leagues are set up? I get each country's league, but what is the Champions League? I guess it's the top teams from each country's league but when does that season occur? Does everything just run concurrently? What title is the most prestigious/ important?

Thanks for any info.


Joe P.
 
Heaven, I've ordered from world soccer shop.com. Really good selection. Just order up a size.

Absolutely! Dad got me Greek National team jersey, last summer, I'm typical a M or L, depending, so my cousins said to get me can XL and it fits perfectly!
 
Can someone explain how the leagues are set up? I get each country's league, but what is the Champions League? I guess it's the top teams from each country's league but when does that season occur? Does everything just run concurrently? What title is the most prestigious/ important?

Thanks for any info.


Joe P.

In Europe, every country has its own league...pretty self explanatory.

Within each country's Football Association, there are typically multiple competitions...for example, in England, there is the Premier League, the FA Cup, and the League Cup (the latter include teams from all the different tiers of English leagues). In Spain, there is regular La Liga play, the Copa del Rey, and the Spanish Super Cup (again, the latter two include teams from the lower tiers).

All of these individual European country's leagues fall under the umbrella of UEFA, basically, the European Federation. They sponsor two major club competitions (Champions League and Europa League), as well as the Euros. Champions League is made up of the top teams in each of the domestic leagues, with the number of qualifying slots determined by a league power ranking...top 3 leagues get 4 qualifying spots each, next 3 get 3 spots, etc. Europa League is for the top teams that don't make Champions League. There's a group of teams in the CL that lose in the qualifiers that get sent down to Europa League.

All of these competitions happen simultaneously, with most mid-week matchups for domestic cup, Champions League, or Europa League play.

It's complicated as hell, but once you get into it, it's fun.
 
In Europe, every country has its own league...pretty self explanatory.

Within each country's Football Association, there are typically multiple competitions...for example, in England, there is the Premier League, the FA Cup, and the League Cup (the latter include teams from all the different tiers of English leagues). In Spain, there is regular La Liga play, the Copa del Rey, and the Spanish Super Cup (again, the latter two include teams from the lower tiers).

All of these individual European country's leagues fall under the umbrella of UEFA, basically, the European Federation. They sponsor two major club competitions (Champions League and Europa League), as well as the Euros. Champions League is made up of the top teams in each of the domestic leagues, with the number of qualifying slots determined by a league power ranking...top 3 leagues get 4 qualifying spots each, next 3 get 3 spots, etc. Europa League is for the top teams that don't make Champions League. There's a group of teams in the CL that lose in the qualifiers that get sent down to Europa League.

All of these competitions happen simultaneously, with most mid-week matchups for domestic cup, Champions League, or Europa League play.

It's complicated as hell, but once you get into it, it's fun.

The FA Cup is particularly amazing as literally EVERY associated club in England plays in the tournament. Play began with 736 teams this past year and is done on a "draw" basis and there are no seeds, however, there are "bye" rounds for the upper level. It's complicated, BUT, that's what makes it so exciting especially in late summer and fall.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FA_Cup
 
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In Europe, every country has its own league...pretty self explanatory.

Within each country's Football Association, there are typically multiple competitions...for example, in England, there is the Premier League, the FA Cup, and the League Cup (the latter include teams from all the different tiers of English leagues). In Spain, there is regular La Liga play, the Copa del Rey, and the Spanish Super Cup (again, the latter two include teams from the lower tiers).

All of these individual European country's leagues fall under the umbrella of UEFA, basically, the European Federation. They sponsor two major club competitions (Champions League and Europa League), as well as the Euros. Champions League is made up of the top teams in each of the domestic leagues, with the number of qualifying slots determined by a league power ranking...top 3 leagues get 4 qualifying spots each, next 3 get 3 spots, etc. Europa League is for the top teams that don't make Champions League. There's a group of teams in the CL that lose in the qualifiers that get sent down to Europa League.

All of these competitions happen simultaneously, with most mid-week matchups for domestic cup, Champions League, or Europa League play.

It's complicated as hell, but once you get into it, it's fun.

The FA Cup is particularly amazing as literally EVERY associated club in England plays in the tournament. Play began with 736 teams this past year and is done on a "draw" basis and there are no seeds, however, there are "bye" rounds for the upper level. It's complicated, BUT, that's what makes it so exciting especially in late summer and fall.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FA_Cup


Thank you both so much for the fantastic responses; you really helped me get a much better picture of how it works. It's interesting to see how it all happens simultaneously. It seems like we have a 'basic' version of the European system with MLS, the US Cup and CONCACAF Champions League.


Joe P.
 
Do yourselves a favor when you get home tonight: if you weren't able to see it about an hour ago, or didn't DVR the game, try and catch the Dortmund vs Liverpool Europa League match. The most amazing version of "You'll Never Walk Alone," in a stadium, that you will ever hear! As both clubs fans sing the song this was a "match made in heaven," of sorts, and the crowds began singing together in the streets of Liverpool prior to the game, however, when it began to play over the PA System at Anfield, and the 3,000 Dortmund fans joined in with the 42,000 fans in red, it was hair-tingling for even this Arsenal fan. They literally sang the final chorus for a good 5+ minutes after the song was over, refusing to stop even as the teams were finally brought out of a tunnel - scene that was one of faces simply amazed at what was going on outside - and onto the pitch, where the fans STILL sang, and sang, and sang.

This is one of those times and those scenes, that only international soccer provides, and I'm glad I caught it live!

** here's a video of fans from the streets of Liverpool prior to the game:

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/watch-dortmund-lfc-fans-sing-11187177
Not to mention the game itself, a classic even for the neutrals.
 
Not to mention the game itself, a classic even for the neutrals.

I managed to get to Mulligan's (in Hoboken), which is a 2-minute walk from my office, for the last 20+. Decent crowd, maybe 30 hardcore Liverpool fans and others watching, but those 30 could be heard 2 blocks away as the 2nd goal was scored. That last 20+ was phenomenal and, as jonru09 just said, I too thought that free kick was going in and that would have made an "epic" match that much more so! Congrats to The Reds, regardless, on a monumental effort, victory, and advancement to the semi's.
 
I managed to get to Mulligan's (in Hoboken), which is a 2-minute walk from my office, for the last 20+. Decent crowd, maybe 30 hardcore Liverpool fans and others watching, but those 30 could be heard 2 blocks away as the 2nd goal was scored. That last 20+ was phenomenal and, as jonru09 just said, I too thought that free kick was going in and that would have made an "epic" match that much more so! Congrats to The Reds, regardless, on a monumental effort, victory, and advancement to the semi's.
I love watching matches in a supporters bar. My most vivid memory of this was the 2002 Champions League final, Bayer Leverkusen v. Real Madrid. I work for a company based in Leverkusen, so a couple of dozen Germans and I left early for a bar across the street to watch the game. Close, excellent game tied 1-1 until Zidane scored one of the best goals I have ever seen in a big game. My poor German friends were despondent.
 
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Thank you both so much for the fantastic responses; you really helped me get a much better picture of how it works. It's interesting to see how it all happens simultaneously. It seems like we have a 'basic' version of the European system with MLS, the US Cup and CONCACAF Champions League.


Joe P.

There are two huge differences between the European system and the MLS. One is promotion/relegation, where usually the bottom 3 teams are banished to the next level down, and the top 3 teams can make a corresponding move up. Also, in Europe, there are no playoffs.
 
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There are two huge differences between the European system and the MLS. One is promotion/relegation, where usually the bottom 3 teams are banished to the next level down, and the top 3 teams can make a corresponding move up. Also, in Europe, there are no playoffs.
MLS also rewards the team with the most points during the regular season with the Supporters Shield, which some argue is as important as winning the post-season playoffs (MLS Cup) as it is more analogous to "winning the league".
 
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There are two huge differences between the European system and the MLS. One is promotion/relegation, where usually the bottom 3 teams are banished to the next level down, and the top 3 teams can make a corresponding move up. Also, in Europe, there are no playoffs.

That is one thing that I love about Euro leagues. At the end of the season, many of the matches between bottom of the barrel teams are just as exciting as matches between teams higher up on the table because there is so much on the line. The match between Norwich and New Castle a couple weeks ago was great.

Conversely, I don't think many people would be clamoring to watch a Week 17 game between the Browns and Titans (for example -- my condolences if either of those is your team).
 
Funny how this goalpost keeps moving. LOL

And really, not one ManCity fan on here?
Man City fan here since 2009, before their first championship. I work with a couple of teachers, one is a huge Arsenal fan and his brother is a huge Man United fan. They kept telling me about the BPL and all. So instead of going with their teams, I chose City because they're sky blue and that they reminded me of the Mets going up against the mighty Man United/Yankees. Plus I had heard of Ballotelli and Aguerro, so there.

But its pretty cool to watch a game on TV or the two times City played at Yankee Stadium with no commercials or the noise pollution you get at an NBA game, NFL game, or at Citi Field. Plus when else do you get up and get to Mulligans in Hoboken and have a burger and beer at 730am?
 
The FA Cup is particularly amazing as literally EVERY associated club in England plays in the tournament. Play began with 736 teams this past year and is done on a "draw" basis and there are no seeds, however, there are "bye" rounds for the upper level. It's complicated, BUT, that's what makes it so exciting especially in late summer and fall.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FA_Cup
I think this is pretty cool as well. To compare it to baseball, you could basically have match ups like the Yankees visiting the Newark Bears. A couple years ago a team who got relegated out of the BPL the year before Wigan beat Man City for the FA Cup title at Wembley. I was like HOW THE HELL DOES THIS HAPPENED? lol.
 
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Me too.

Same reason.

I also root for City.

I spent all last season "auditing" the EPL and my 2 buddies who root for United and Arsenal pushed me to decide. I wanted to have some rivalries with them so I didn't want to pick one of their teams. I narrowed it down to City, Spurs, Everton and Liverpool. I'm also a Mets fan and the City vs. United take always intrigued me and was the deciding factor.
 
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You all know Man City and the Yankees got together to buy NYCFC, right? If you are looking for an anti- Yankees club, not sure City would be the first choice.
 
You all know Man City and the Yankees got together to buy NYCFC, right? If you are looking for an anti- Yankees club, not sure City would be the first choice.

Yeah I know. I'm referring to the United and Yankees have history and titles while Mets and City are of the "little brother" mold.
 
So how about that Leicester City match? Carroll giveth and Carrol taketh away.

As a Tottenham fan, that second half was a roller coaster of emotions. I thought Jon Moss made a good call (homer in me) on giving Vardy his second yellow for that dive, but that was only after seeing it in slow motion.. pretty gutsy call to make live. I also think the PK that he awarded West Ham was fair in light of the fact that Huth and Morgan were manhandling players on set pieces all game and the ref called them over not five minutes before the corner in question to give them a warning. I think the penalty awarded to Leicester was pure BS, but I'm okay with it in that it made up for the call that was missed a few minutes earlier when Huth was getting mugged on the throw in. Overall though, the fact that this entire post is analyzing the officiating is probably an indictment of the quality of the officiating.
 
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F'ing Leicester! What a kick in the nuts for Spurs fans! I thought Vardy's 2nd yellow was an easy, obvious call. Totally unnecessary to take a dive there especially since he might have been able to get a shot off if he just kept playing. Anyway, Vardy misses next two. That's good news. Chance for the Spurs to get within 5 points this afternoon. COYS!
 
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So how about that Leicester City match? Carroll giveth and Carrol taketh away.

As a Tottenham fan, that second half was a roller coaster of emotions. I thought Jon Moss made a good call (homer in me) on giving Vardy his second yellow for that dive, but that was only after seeing it in slow motion.. pretty gutsy call to make live. I also think the PK that he awarded West Ham was fair in light of the fact that Huth and Morgan were manhandling players on set pieces all game and the ref called them over not five minutes before the corner in question to give them a warning. I think the penalty awarded to Leicester was pure BS, but I'm okay with it in that it made up for the call that was missed a few minutes earlier when Huth was getting mugged on the throw in. Overall though, the fact that this entire post is analyzing the officiating is probably an indictment of the quality of the officiating.

Couldn't agree more. Hard to blame Carroll for the pen- it wasn't even close. Wouldn't be so bad but that is the 4th league game in a row that we have been hard done by poor refs- an penalty against us in the 89' v. Chelsea that was clearly outside the box, a straight red for Kouyate versus Palace that was later rescinded, a goal versus Arsenal that was incorrectly waved off for offside (and not one of those borderline ones either), and now the phantom Carroll pen on the last kick of the game. Could have meant 6-8 additional points for us that would have kept us in the battle for a CL spot.
 
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Yeah you guys have had a rough go of it this season on the officiating front. I just remembered one other thing about the Leicester match that drove me crazy -- why didn't Valencia clear the ball? It looked like he had the opportunity but instead tried to get fancy and ended up giving it right back to Leicester which led to the penalty moments later.
 
Yeah you guys have had a rough go of it this season on the officiating front. I just remembered one other thing about the Leicester match that drove me crazy -- why didn't Valencia clear the ball? It looked like he had the opportunity but instead tried to get fancy and ended up giving it right back to Leicester which led to the penalty moments later.

Better question- why was Valencia on the field? He has been awful this year, and as you pointed out he is particularly weak on the ball. Gets dispossessed with relative ease constantly.
 
You all know Man City and the Yankees got together to buy NYCFC, right? If you are looking for an anti- Yankees club, not sure City would be the first choice.
Before the Yankees and City formed NYCFC, City reminded me of the Mets: the big city team that was always in the shadow of the bigger team with all the championships. And FOR, I've decided to follow NYCFC I stead of the Red Bulls or the Philadelphia Union because there's not many times in my lifetime when I can follow a team from Day 1.
 
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I realize I started this thread about the Premier league but I had the pleasure of catching the replay of the Real-Wolfsburg game over the weekend and Renaldo is simply a man child but I didn't realize how stacked that front 5 is...then caught the first half of the Barcelona-Valencia game while eating lunch at shake shack...really wish La Liga had as good coverage in the states as the premier league does.
 
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Spurs 4-0 over stoke...Leicester fans are suddenly on their heels with Vardy about to miss some time.
 
Great performance by Spurs at Stoke. Braces for Harry and Dele. COYS!!!!
 
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Great performance by Spurs at Stoke. Braces for Harry and Deli. COYS!!!!

Great performance all around, other than that gift that turned into a miss by Dele Alli. I'm glad he got the chance to make up for it with that volley.
 
Spurs absolutely smashed Stoke. In the post-game, got a little awkward with the NBCSN studio team plus Tim Howard asking Geoff Cameron about how awesome Spurs are, and how did it feel to get smashed. I'm a huge Spurs fan, but holy crap, the gushing was over the top.
 
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