OT: Brittney Griner
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WNBA All-Star Brittney Griner was arrested in Russia last month at a Moscow airport after a search of her luggage revealed vape cartridges.
The Russian Customs Service said Saturday that the cartridges were identified as containing oil derived from cannabis, which could carry a maximum penalty of 10 years in prison. The customs service identified the person arrested as a player for the U.S. women's team and did not specify the date of her arrest. Russian media reported the player was Griner, and her agent did not dispute those reports.
The Russian Customs Service said Saturday that the cartridges were identified as containing oil derived from cannabis, which could carry a maximum penalty of 10 years in prison. The customs service identified the person arrested as a player for the U.S. women's team and did not specify the date of her arrest. Russian media reported the player was Griner, and her agent did not dispute those reports.
I hope that Epiphanny got out in time as she was also still over there.
As for Griner, well, nothing would surprise most people that know her history.
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As for Griner, well, nothing would surprise most people that know her history.
Report: Griner detained in Russia for hashish oil
WNBA star Brittney Griner, who plays overseas during the offseason, is reportedly being detained in Russia after officials said they found hashish oil in her luggage at an airport near Moscow.
Mercury center Brittney Griner reportedly detained in Russia on drug charges
Griner, 31, was reportedly arrested after hashish oil vape cartridges were found in her luggage at a Russian airport.
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It's going to be scary for any American and EU Country citizen over there now.
You can bet Russia will go the extra mile to find a reason to arrest them using them as hostages for negotiating purposes.
You can bet Russia will go the extra mile to find a reason to arrest them using them as hostages for negotiating purposes.
I heard that all other WNBA players were out, I suspect that would include Prince, but don't know.
I wouldn't be overly critical of her vaping something with cannabis. While that is not actually legal in Arizona, recreational pot smoking is, at least if you are at least 21 years old. And she plays in Arizona and for all I know lives here, at least some of the time.
I wouldn't be overly critical of her vaping something with cannabis. While that is not actually legal in Arizona, recreational pot smoking is, at least if you are at least 21 years old. And she plays in Arizona and for all I know lives here, at least some of the time.
You contradict yourself. Who the hell cares what the law is in AZ when you're traveling in RUSSIA?!?!? Nothing surprises me with Griner she really has issues - I think some genuine mental health situations and I hope she is getting the proper treatment, but some is just stupidity and ridiculously poor judgement. This clearly falls in the latter category.
I'll never how understand why these people take illegal drugs into countries like that.
It's like taking drugs into Indonesia. Only morons do these things.
It's like taking drugs into Indonesia. Only morons do these things.
Has anyone making light of this considered that the ‘charges‘ may have been made up to detain a well known American in Russia? Anything is possible to gain leverage with a hostage situation. Whether you are a ‘fan’ of Griner or not, this is a very serious situation for her, especially as a black, lesbian woman.
Putin uses Russian athletes as pawns. Not sure how this situation is funny or an opportunity to poke fun at the WNBA on the Women’s basketball board.
This just didn’t happen in the past 2-3 weeks. Sure “ let’s make Griner a key hostage victim”. From what sources claimed she is a bit of a strange person.
Who is defending her? Cali's point is correct...incredibly stupid to do that... the rules are the rules. Sucks for her, but she made her decision.
What's happening is a serious matter that none of us really knows if Russia is making up the charges and using a legal substance to appear as an illegal one.
Could be that so called cannabis oil is something else entirely and being used to detain a major American sports figure for negotiating purposes or making a big deal out of something they used to overlook for the same purpose.
If what Russia is doing is because of an illegal substance was found in her luggage and not a trumped up, Brittany brought this upon herself by not realizing how Russia would be targeting Americans that broke their laws .
Getting away with doing it before is no excuse seeing the type of relationship between Russia and America has now.
Thinking otherwise is just feeling your entitled to special treatment in any type of circumstance and the treatment you get might not be what expected.
There was a recent post which claimed she was being held hostage. I did not accuse anyone but that poster. The poster claims she was for a better term being framed or falsely accused and why? Because of her race, sexual preferences which is a very overused excuse. According to some it was acceptable to attempt to leave the country through airport security with drugs. This did not just occur… long before the shit hit the fan in Ukraine.The 2021-2022 mindset … never admit wrong doing or culpability. I know exactly what my friend Cali was saying. Perhaps you should re read what and who said what.
It was stupid. Apparently, from an article I read elsewhere (and not relating at all to the current situation, per se) the oligarchs who owned the teams traditionally protected the American players from any consequences relating to Russian laws. To me that is a bit inappropriate, as I don't condone bad behavior.
It is also a violation of WNBA rules to use cannabis. While I don't personally object to folks who want to, I think you have to abide by the rules. If you don't like them, change them.
Yes, for a while Griner clearly had a variety of issues that were obvious both off-court and on-court, although I have no idea of what they really were. But it appeared she settled down before this.
What is strange is she apparently played (in Russia) around the time in question, before the league took a break for some international competition. Would love to know the "whole" story, but we never will.
I love how these pro athletes and actors get on their soapbox about how poorly they are treated in this country and then sell themselves to the highest bidder in the most corrupt countries in the world.
Then don’t call on this country when things don’t work out. And there are many countries that are less corrupt that offer professional opportunities.
On this issue, I just think you are wrong. If you want to condemn, stick with those who take citizenship in those countries and compete on their Olympic teams. Plenty have done this. That would not be the case with Griner, Taurasi and other Team USA members who have played on teams in Russia, China and many other countries.
I haven't heard these players complain about how poorly they are treated here. What they have said is that they make most of their income elsewhere. Nothing wrong with that. They would like to make more here, but there are not oligarchs in the USA that don't care whether or not they make money.
Russia hasn't been communist for the last 30yrs. You may want to check your calendar.
Russia has capitalist system, run by billionaire oligarchs who in turn are run by Putin.
Also Marijuana is still an illegal drug in many parts of the world. And "trafficking" drugs illegal can have huge penalties.
Her getting caught with drugs is just a bonus bargaining chip (amongst many that Russia will try to collect and produce) for the inevitable negotiation for ending this US-Russia proxy war over Ukraine and European Energy.
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Commentators, backed by athletes that have played there, have been saying Russia is not a safe spot for Griner because she is a black lesbian women. Can’t take people seriously that complain about human/gay lesbian rites, racial inequality etc… then sell themselves to the highest bidder(china,russia). 2 countries that are notorious for the exact things they are complaining about.
Here's Why Brittney Griner Was in Russia Before Being Detained
After news broke that the star athlete had been held, reportedly for three weeks, many asked why she would have gone to the infamously anti-LGBTQ+ nation.
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It still is communist even though the scumbag dictator Putzzin wishes you believe they are a socialist democratic country at heart.The nomenclature is immaterial in this case. Griner hates her country and that is well documented. Now she screws the pooch and she wants B1G Daddy USA to come to her rescue.If she were here she would be out on bail a month ago.
I'll chime in. It's just plain stupid to be risking anything during these times and in Russia pretty much any time. Just dump the stuff before getting to security and buy more when you get of the damn plane.
I can't stand when US citizens do stuff that puts the country in a tough spot. Yeah, I'm sure this will become a negotiation again. And we do costly things to help.
I feel bad for Griner. I really do. But let's have some brains.
I can't stand when US citizens do stuff that puts the country in a tough spot. Yeah, I'm sure this will become a negotiation again. And we do costly things to help.
I feel bad for Griner. I really do. But let's have some brains.
But that is conundrum we in this country often take for granted . Why should someone who obeys laws ( example you) feel sorry for her arrogance or possible stupidity of Griner? I can’t believe Griner was unaware of the drugs or vape or whatever. It’s her and only her who put herself in this unfortunate position. We all understand the dubious position she is now in and agree Russia is by no means trustworthy of being above board. Just more reason to cross your T’s and Dot those I ‘s.
No one really knows whether there were any drugs involved or local laws broken. This is Russia after all and there are scant facts available. We may never know.
And I’m not denying Griner has had some personal off-court struggles at times, but what evidence do you have that she hates her country? Griner works in Russia to make a living in the WNBA off-season and she’s a longtime member of the US national team. She didn’t ‘get’ citizenship there like some others, including Epiphany Prince or Becky H so they could play on the Russia Fed national teams.
This is a terrible predicament and just hope she gets out safely.
Maybe I'm oversimplifying, but there are two possibilities. The first is that she is being framed so that Putin can put pressure on the U.S. The other is that she really did possess hashish oil, in which case she did something foolish. It's not important whether possession should be illegal; what's important is that it was illegal, and that she took a chance in a country that does not have the kind of due process protections for alleged criminals that the U.S. has. She deserves our best wishes either way.
They are neither communist nor anything resembling "democratic". Putin is a dictator. As someone said, it is technically capitalist although the wealth is primarily in the hands of oligarchs that have formed a sort of "ruling class".
Please let me know the documentation that Griner "hates her country" - oh, and let Team USA know so they can take away her gold medals.
Sure sounds like cannabis oil residue from the Vape pipe was involved. She has many issues one being vocal about how she dislikes her country of birth. When it’s convenient to work in another country because they pay well fine but don’t complain when you F it up. This happened several months ago . Don’t believe the Russia /Ukraine war was over her suspected drug offense.
Who said they’re Democratic? Because you have a Starbucks and Mac Donald’s in your neighborhood doesn’t make you one. Funny thing they’re not socialists either … sorry to burst your bubble but any country which aligns itself with the CCP is communist in my book … hell one of the biggest communists in the USA named Bernie loves Putin. … Why should I let you know? She has had several instances where the question of her love of country can be questioned. I have no doubt this arrogant person tried to get through customs with residue stained vape pipe. So you reap what you sow.
OK - I have to give it to you - I read up on her and I can see why some would very strongly question her love of country. In addition, she holds some opinions that are deeply offensive to a lot of Americans.
I doubt she hates America, and I found no evidence she said she did. Otherwise, why play for our Olympic team and why stand respectfully during the anthem at the ceremony?
She is one of many people, athletes and otherwise, who object to certain things about our country. I don't think that is un-American. I don't think our country is perfect, either. My father, a WWII veteran and proud of his service and his country, didn't always agree with every aspect of American life. He just felt it was a (much) better place to be than anywhere else, which is also my opinion.
No America is not perfect . My late father , who also spent 4 1/2 years in the Pacific Theater, felt there was much lacking in the things which occurred post WW II . Today we are seeing ineptness at the highest levels. We have not learned any lessons especially with what is now occurring in Eastern Europe.
'I’d be begging them for help': Can Russia's oligarchs help free Brittney Griner?
The U.S.’ deteriorating relationship with Russia may make it difficult to broker a deal to bring the WNBA star home. Her ties to two Russian oligarchs could present another option.
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