So you be honest and just say you would rather have someone else as HC. You can't say you like him and at the same time you don't want to pay him.
You can say all these things about Rutgers but in the end you're a FSU fan first and foremost.
OT: Coaches restructuring deals
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You can say all these things about Rutgers but in the end you're a FSU fan first and foremost.
Who believes anything from you about Schiano? Nobody!
I just forwarded this to my Daughter who is a P4 athlete. They actually thought girls would get equal pay. So cute how clueless they are. Lol
😂 Well the last line does say they expect legal challenges due to the imbalance so who knows.
If ADs start operate more like a business potential revenue generators will get more money than a cost center. It wouldn’t be surprising to see # of sports offered shrink over time.
I never expected equal. Always figured it would be a few grand spending money. But the lack of increase in scholarship numbers of disheartening. Especially since they were forced to cut so many girls to get to some made up roster limit
Rutgers was at 2-10 and is now at 7-5. Last year, we were at 6-6. His contract anticipates that we will gradually improve. Next year should be our best year yet.
Yes, I’ve never denied being an FSU fan first and foremost - but being an FSU fan is not mutually exclusive to this conversation in my feelings about Greg
Regarding Greg, I like him, and want to pay him, but the extension he got with the years and money was not warranted, nor needed
No, I don’t wanna lose him because I believe he’s a great program builder, very good with the character for raising young men, and a proud representative of our university
No, I don’t believe he is the guy to get us over the hump and make us Elite, but for right now, he is by far the best option
Whether or not he is the best optionin a few years all depends on what our record will be and how we have progressed as a program
Again, I’m not against giving him an extension, I just think the number of years and amount of money was not warranted
That’s your opinion. Look at what the competition is paying, and his salary is appropriate.
We were competing against ourselves
Nobody else was on his ass to poach him
Not a difficult concept to understand to grasp
The concept you’re not grasping is the value Schiano brings to the table. You're saying we could have extended the years but not increased his salary because no one else was out there bidding for him. What I’m telling you is Schiano is worth every penny and more. We will just have to disagree on this one.
Well then maybe Schiano shouldn't have signed an apparently crappy 8 year deal that undervalued him?
He's the one who locked in his value for 8 years.
If it was only a 4-5 contract and ending soon then an extension would have made more sense.
Instead of giving a raise halfway through a contract, the AD could have pocketed and allocated that money for the eventual fieldhouse? Instead of giving a raise 4 years into a 8 year contract.
The concept is not difficult
In the modern day and age of college football, extensions need to be given out in a timely in orderly fashion, not just because
The amount of years and the amount of money he got, were not warranted - I repeat, nobody else was in the running for him, he wasn’t going anywhere, and we were in no danger of losing him
We negotiated from a place of weakness rather than a place of strength, and he did the inverse
Credit to him for getting the money, but it was not a smart move on our part
When you have talent, you don’t wait till someone else makes a better offer, because by then, it’s too late. If you check the market for coaching salaries, Schiano is paid appropriately. They didn’t just pick his salary out of a hat. They researched what was appropriate, and came to a decision.
The Fieldhouse need is likely $300M. The additional dollars paid to Schiano are a pittance.
The bottomline is you don’t think he’s worth it. Hobbs decided differently because he turned around a failing football program. This years results vindicate his decision because we continue to be on a growth trajectory and this should continue next year.
Should have been 10 years. $6M is a bargain compared to what other coaches are getting.
We'll agree to disagree
End of the day, we're all on the same team, wanting Rutgers to be elite
J-Dog: Schiano was hired because Hobbs couldn't find anyone else that would accept the job with what Rutgers was offering
RUAl: Greg got a good deal because he had very little HC options he could take and probably 0 chance for another P-5 HC position.
NickRU agree that the extension after 4 was too soon , but year 5 brought his 3rd bowl appearance that lessened it being a foolhardy move.. But still could have waited with minor changes like 1 year rollover and bonus payments when certain goals met
All, I truly belive Rutgers is a place top HC candidates shy away from because of the local media finding fault every chance it gets, the school's administration acting like totally supporting the program will make the media mad and make like the school is wasting resources that could be better used elsewhere
and top canidates also feel the way Rutgers financaly supports it's football program makes winning harder there than they would have at other P-5 programs and don't want to risk there career taking the job.
Name a RU HC that was hired as a HC elsewhere after they left Rutgers.
Kyle Flood might be an exeption, but he also has the sucessful (Bama & Texas) programs he was an assistant at make him look far better than when RU booted him out.
Aso leaving RU with a winning record adds to the helps Kyle look like he deserves another HC shot.
Flood might be the exception to Rutgers being a career killer for those who become RU HCs.
RUAl: Greg got a good deal because he had very little HC options he could take and probably 0 chance for another P-5 HC position.
NickRU agree that the extension after 4 was too soon , but year 5 brought his 3rd bowl appearance that lessened it being a foolhardy move.. But still could have waited with minor changes like 1 year rollover and bonus payments when certain goals met
All, I truly belive Rutgers is a place top HC candidates shy away from because of the local media finding fault every chance it gets, the school's administration acting like totally supporting the program will make the media mad and make like the school is wasting resources that could be better used elsewhere
and top canidates also feel the way Rutgers financaly supports it's football program makes winning harder there than they would have at other P-5 programs and don't want to risk there career taking the job.
Name a RU HC that was hired as a HC elsewhere after they left Rutgers.
Kyle Flood might be an exeption, but he also has the sucessful (Bama & Texas) programs he was an assistant at make him look far better than when RU booted him out.
Aso leaving RU with a winning record adds to the helps Kyle look like he deserves another HC shot.
Flood might be the exception to Rutgers being a career killer for those who become RU HCs.
Top HCs never came here because of Rutgers was always cheap, just not in the salary, but in everything else not the press.
Doug Graber was HC of the Frankfort Galaxy. Terry Shea is still a HC in some pro league in Virginia.
Flood isn't going to get a legit college job. He literally doesn't have the skills at all!
