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OT- Greg Schiano column - Tampa Bay Times
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They must have moved it.
Try this.
http://www.tampabay.com/sports/coll...definitely-greg-schianos-comfort-zone/2307848
The fact that a worthless douchebag like Kellen Winslow Jr. hated him is enough to let me know he was doing a fine job of removing the cancer from Tampa's locker room exactly as he was tasked. The Glazers are just spineless owners unwilling to admit that was his mission.
Since Gruden left in 2008 Tampa has had 4 coaches in 8 years. Its become one of those jobs that are hexed
Back in the old GS days at RU, sitting in sec. 126 we were always bombarded with twizzlers after every RU score......there must be a connection.
In the end, he shouldn't have left. 2012 and where RU could be now...PSU may not have recovered so fast (though I still believe this season was a mirage for them)...
In hindsight sure... but in 2012 leaving a coaching gig in the big east to go to the NFL is a no brainer.
Doubt it. Hard to pass up coaching at the highest level of your profession and the pay day.
Hold on, in 2017 leaving a coaching gig in the B1G East to go to the NFL is a no brainer.
When he coached Tampa Bay he was despised by fans and players alike. The players used to have team meetings he wasnt invited to attend. As a Rutgers guy I tried to ignore the boos and bad comments, The NFL just isnt his forte....
His college-like approach was never a good fit for the NFL. Even though he had seemingly plateaued here, imagine where we could potentially be now had he stayed. It would have been interesting to see what he could have done with the B1G behind him. Worst case, we would never had experienced the Flood 'error' and would be that much further along right now.
Some coaches are better in college, where micromanagement is more impactful.
But in the NFL, it's all about the players, and they know it.
Name any lasting, successful coach in the NFL and you can be sure he had hall of fame players on his roster.
In college, you can pick on that true freshman safety or undersized lineman all day.
In the NFL, even that nickel corner was on the All-American watch list.
But in the NFL, it's all about the players, and they know it.
Name any lasting, successful coach in the NFL and you can be sure he had hall of fame players on his roster.
In college, you can pick on that true freshman safety or undersized lineman all day.
In the NFL, even that nickel corner was on the All-American watch list.
The Giants thing certainly didn't help him. His strengths are definitely more suited to the college level than the primadonnas that populate the NFL. Keep in mind that most of the stars in the pros came out of programs that looked the other way to their "adventures" as long as they could play and produce on Saturdays.
Yep, that team was a mess and he had to clean it out. The owners are a bunch of ball-less pricks.
He had to leave, 2004 and 2010 were gnawing at him.
If he stayed we would be as good as Michigan State, Minnesota and Iowa. We were headed in that direction. When he left, the 5* and 4* players were coming. Schiano got a boatload of kids into the NFL. Some of the players weren't even highly regarding recruits. Obviously he was doing something right.
Nick Saban is another that would get an NFL HC position 1 minute after expressing interest in returning to the NFL.
He was 15-17 as the Dolphins' HC in the 2005 and 2006 seasons.
9-7 first year, 6-10 second.
Being a great College HC doesn't automatically mean you'll be successful coaching pro players.
While that is true, his style is not dissimilar to that of Bill Belicheck, who admittedly had Brady and others. Schianos biggest predicament was that he never had a quarterback and it's tough to win without one. Also MRSA took away his best free agent acquisition. A really unique set of circumstances which doomed him. If he had been given one more year, and a chance to draft Bridgewater, he would have done so and would have shown big progress year three, and away Tampa would have gone. I think he can succeed in the NFL, given the opportunity. It appears he's learned from his past mistakes.
Al, he had Darrelle Revis playing short zone in a Cover-2.
He of Revis Island fame was reduced to coverage responsibility Flood once trusted to a backup RB (Justin Goodwin) for a game.
That's borderline criminal.
We will never know. I think we can say for certain though that we would be better off than where we are now. That said, I am still confident that Ash can rebuild this and take us there as well. Just unfortunate that another rebuild is even necessary.
What was criminal was getting revis in the first place because they way overpaid then let him go for nothing. He made a lot of mistakes, which he acknowledges, but he'll be better for it.
Yeah, it doesn't work for a lot of college guys. There are a few success stories (Carrol, Coughlin and those guys started in the NFL before taking college jobs and returning to the NFL), but by and large it doesn't work out.
you guys make a lot of excuses for the man. What many finally saw was how much of a prick he was. He was not a nice guy behind the cameras at all or to those that couldn't benefit him in any way
he wasn't even a good coach really, he's better directing a program than coaching one.
he wasn't even a good coach really, he's better directing a program than coaching one.
Not too far off but the interesting thing with Greg is that he does have a big heart deep down. There were also times that he would let his guard down a bit and be a very pleasant and engaging person. But all you said above is very true too.
How can you say he isn't a good coach. He may not be a top Head coach but he clearly can "coach". You don't become the D.C. For Miami (in their prime) and OSU (who are dominating) without being a good coach.
The guy has experienced more success than 95%of all football coaches.
Some of this nonsense is insane and we would take him back faster than UCONN took back what's his face.
The guy has experienced more success than 95%of all football coaches.
Some of this nonsense is insane and we would take him back faster than UCONN took back what's his face.
That last bowl win before he left felt like the next step, like we were turning a corner into a new more stable and consistent "winning" stage for the program ... And then we got hit with the Flood.
I'll never understand the ill will for Schiano ... He turned this place around in many many ways and surely had an ego but what coach who leads a program turnaround wouldn't? Anybody would have taken an NFL job at that point.
Really wanted him back this last time around but like what I've seen from Ash off the field. Hopefully the recruiting sticks, the new offense works (with some skill players), and we can get back to some sort of winning again.
It feels like a longways from those days when you expected a tough competitive team at High Point week to week.
I'll never understand the ill will for Schiano ... He turned this place around in many many ways and surely had an ego but what coach who leads a program turnaround wouldn't? Anybody would have taken an NFL job at that point.
Really wanted him back this last time around but like what I've seen from Ash off the field. Hopefully the recruiting sticks, the new offense works (with some skill players), and we can get back to some sort of winning again.
It feels like a longways from those days when you expected a tough competitive team at High Point week to week.
I'm not mad at him for leaving, but it still annoys me that Tampa even offered him the job. Schiano is a very good college coach, but he was struggling to win more than 8 games in the Big East. That's hardly worthy of an NFL gig, even considering Rutgers history.
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you guys make a lot of excuses for the man. What many finally saw was how much of a prick he was. He was not a nice guy behind the cameras at all or to those that couldn't benefit him in any way
he wasn't even a good coach really, he's better directing a program than coaching one.
?? Ask Eric LeGrand how much of a prick Schiano was. For the first weeks after Eric got hurt Greg slept in Eric's hospital room....
you guys make a lot of excuses for the man. What many finally saw was how much of a prick he was. He was not a nice guy behind the cameras at all or to those that couldn't benefit him in any way
he wasn't even a good coach really, he's better directing a program than coaching one.
?? Ask Eric LeGrand how much of a prick Schiano was. For the first weeks after Eric got hurt Greg slept in Eric's hospital room....
The care and the love he showed towRd Eric was genuine. But he was still a prick regardless. Lol
I don't think many Rutgers fans have ill will toward what he did for the program but many just feel he reached his highest level.
Well, some of us had to deal with the prick. Lol
Btw- it's being discussed because the article talks of his personality and how it didn't fit well with professionals. Next time, read the article before telling everyone what they should discuss.
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