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beaced don't like Columbus.Gave a place for OSU to call home.
Never gave today much thought. But reading the Wikipedia entry, it makes sense now. All of those years of indoctrination in grade school, singing, "In 1492, Columbus sailed the ocean blue," and making construction paper replicas of the Nina, La Pinta and the Santa Maria.I read that Columbus Day was created because Italian Americans were basically treated like dirt in America back in the day. Hung, killed etc. I always knew that WOP meant without papers and that is what people called Italians. It’s a pride thing given to people in America who were basically persecuted in America for a long time.
So basically Columbus Day was created by politicians of the day the same way politicians today feel bad for certain groups. Pander to them and create some award or statue or something. History goes by and Italians are generally not treated like dirt anymore aside from the Jersey shore joke type stuff. So I guess Columbus has to go?
Anyway that is what I read someplace.
When are the Polish going to get their day? Years of horrible and hurtful jokes.
I never really understood the Columbus thing. Even when, as grade schoolers, we were being taught that "Columbus discovered America" I thought that the fact that he never actually landed here was problematic. The passage of time and its attendant revelations have made the old folk tale even more irrelevant.
Also worth noting that the proud Italians who celebrate him overlook the fact that his marginal achievement was entirely mercenary, after his own country gave him the shoe.
The Vikings might have a word to say about Europeans "discovering" an already inhabited continent
Not a national holiday.Doesn't NYC have a Pulaski Day Parade?
Sounds like indoctrination?I go back farther than you, and I remember being taught Columbus discovered the "New World". A European perspective but more accurate. I guess it depended on the teachers.
so your learning and understanding should stop at what you learned in grade school?I go back to when that was an unproven theory.
Not a national holiday.
Learned during our trip to Poland a couple years ago that in 1776, Polish General Andrzej Tadeusz Bonawentura Kościuszko moved to North America, where he took part in the American Revolutionary War as a colonel in the Continental Army. An accomplished military architect, he designed and oversaw the construction of state-of-the-art fortifications, including those at West Point, New York. Kościuszko wrote a will in 1798, dedicating his U.S. assets to the education and freedom of the U.S. slaves.
Seems much more worthy of a national holiday for what he did for the American Revolution and the slaves.
Tadeusz Kościuszko - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
so your learning and understanding should stop at what you learned in grade school?
Will have to try that sometime. There is quite an extensive amount of information at the Wawel Castle in Krakow, Poland, where he is entombed.Go up for a game at West Point and tour Fort Putnam if it's a day game. Besides a magnificent view you'll learn about Kosciuszko.
well, isnt it?It is if we're talking about what we learned in grade school. JFC.
He is well represented in Philly. A beautiful statue on the Ben Franklin Parkway and the home he lived in Philly. The home is part of the US National Park Service.Not a national holiday.
Learned during our trip to Poland a couple years ago that in 1776, Polish General Andrzej Tadeusz Bonawentura Kościuszko moved to North America, where he took part in the American Revolutionary War as a colonel in the Continental Army. An accomplished military architect, he designed and oversaw the construction of state-of-the-art fortifications, including those at West Point, New York. Kościuszko wrote a will in 1798, dedicating his U.S. assets to the education and freedom of the U.S. slaves.
Seems much more worthy of a national holiday for what he did for the American Revolution and the slaves.
Tadeusz Kościuszko - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
Right now you should be celebrating.When are the Polish going to get their day? Years of horrible and hurtful jokes.
And like the Polish do, we celebrate it in December. 😉Right now you should be celebrating.
Polish American Heritage Month is in October,
Congress first deemed August as Polish American Heritage Month in 1981, but later moved it to October.
Yes - good article in the paper about that too. Harrison was concerned about political implications leading into his re-election campaign. I was surprised after reading this that Columbus Day didn’t become a full-fledged national holiday until the early 1970s. But it’s nice if you are lucky enough to get the day off.Never gave today much thought. But reading the Wikipedia entry, it makes sense now. All of those years of indoctrination in grade school, singing, "In 1492, Columbus sailed the ocean blue," and making construction paper replicas of the Nina, La Pinta and the Santa Maria.
According to Wikipedia, the holiday was enacted to celebrate social progress.
It seems appropriate then to share the day with Indigenous People and Coming Out.
From Wikipedia:
"For the 400th anniversary of Christopher Columbus's voyage in 1892, following a lynching in New Orleans where a mob had murdered 11 Italian immigrants, President Benjamin Harrison declared Columbus Day as a one-time national celebration.[6][7] The proclamation was part of a wider effort after the lynching incident to placate Italian Americans and ease diplomatic tensions with Italy.[6] During the anniversary in 1892, teachers, preachers, poets and politicians used rituals to teach ideals of patriotism. These rituals took themes such as citizenship boundaries, the importance of loyalty to the nation, and the celebration of social progress, included among them was the Pledge of Allegiance by Francis Bellamy."
Columbus Day - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
Any day off is a good day. I celebrate every day off with the same joy. We did not get the day off today.Yes - good article in the paper about that too. Harrison was concerned about political implications leading into his re-election campaign. I was surprised after reading this that Columbus Day didn’t become a full-fledged national holiday until the early 1970s. But it’s nice if you are lucky enough to get the day off.
The guy can't brush that mop before he posts a video?I appreciate what Geraldo has to say. I'm part Italian and grew up in Bloomfield, so I get the pride for Columbus. But he was a colossal prick. So celebrate Columbus Day. Celebrate Indigenous Peoples Day if that's your preference. All good, IMO.
Sheeit, beaced was here when he came.I go back to when that was an unproven theory.
Did that Monk from Ireland leave you behind or were you the one that that guided people across the Bering Strait and as the first people to enter North America, about 13,000 years agoSheeit, beaced was here when he came.
He’s proud that he still has the mop at that age.The guy can't brush that mop before he posts a video?