At this level I say no. It’s year to year for most teams but can they be decent more years than not, I think that is realistic and possible. Whether it happens or not, who knows.
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Rutgers football was acceptable for what it was under Frank Burns.. then expectations (and competition) increased to a point where it was not.
Graber waffled between hope and dashed hopes over and over into unacceptable territory.
Shea could not recover and made things worse.
Schiano 1.0 earned actual respect for Rutgers Football but had his failures too. He parlayed it into a promotion to the NFL.
Flood inherited a respected program and ran it back into disrespected territory.
Ash made it worse.
Schiano 2.0 has made progress in bringing it back. It is acceptable now and, hopefully soon will be respected again.
I do not find it reasonable to assume we need to hold a standard of Top 25 finish every season. Surely that is a worthy goal, a possibly achievable goal.. but it will take a lot of work.'
Even if we had Indiana's season this year with a first-year coach like Cignetti or Sanders, we'd have no idea how long that would last. We do not know what the buyout option is for Cignetti after his extension. It was not made public.... which is suspicious. My guess would be that it reveals that Indiana committed a lot of money toward Cignetti, but Cignetti kept his options open.
"Respectable" got us into the Big Ten.
"Respectable" puts fans in the seats.
I think that is a good achievable goal and will not have us playing games in the coaching carousel looking to strike gold while most do not not strike gold. Look at Rutgers past coaches.. we have done far worse than what we have more often than not.
Now.. if we had Shea/Ash-level coaching still.. sure, spin that wheel again and again and hope for the best.
Mack Beown fired at UNC:
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Brown fired by Tar Heels, to coach vs. Wolfpack
North Carolina football coach Mack Brown, 73, will not return to the Tar Heels next season but will coach Saturday's game vs. NC State, the school announced.
I think most RU alums/fans understand that Schiano has made a difference and has made the program competitive and respectable. When he was rehired, I. believe most thought he would raise the floor and get the program respectable. However that is not the goal (as GS has stated over and over again). I don’t think it is unreasonable to expect RU can at least get to 8 wins/winning B1G conference record from time to time. That hasn’t happened and in my opinion, needs to happen in the next 2 years. HCs at this level do not get 8-10 years to get to a winning, major bowl game level and increasingly making the expanded playoff will become the measuring stick.
As usual, you have a well-reasoned and very reasonable statement of expectations.
The excuses are running out ( We are young, we are a developmental football program, we are banged up, one coaching decision away from a win, etc.). Greg himself he came here to play in the CFP. If seven years in we are not there or at least ranked in the top 20 end of season, it may be time to move on.
In addition to Sumrall, Matt Campbell and Rhett Lashlee mentioned for UNC.
Lashlee is in the middle of a potential playoff run and SMU is just in the first year of the ACC and can win it. Not sure why he’d leave SMU. It’s got all he needs.
Campbell and Sumrall are in the middle of potential playoff runs too but could see them leave if they happen to fall out of it.
Barry Odom, Fleck, Mullen, Chadwell are some other names mentioned.
Lashlee is in the middle of a potential playoff run and SMU is just in the first year of the ACC and can win it. Not sure why he’d leave SMU. It’s got all he needs.
Campbell and Sumrall are in the middle of potential playoff runs too but could see them leave if they happen to fall out of it.
Barry Odom, Fleck, Mullen, Chadwell are some other names mentioned.
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Is Doeren at NC State next to go?Mack Beown fired at UNC:
Brown fired by Tar Heels, to coach vs. Wolfpack
North Carolina football coach Mack Brown, 73, will not return to the Tar Heels next season but will coach Saturday's game vs. NC State, the school announced.
