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Meanwhile I have seen a number of videos about people who carried a 5-15 thousand dollars cash getting bushwacked by DEA roving agents with dogs who confiscate teh money after being tipped off by TSA as to who had cash with them. That's messed up.. that's Unreasonable Search and Seizure.
Yeah, I don't believe that actually happens. Not the way you're describing it. There's either a lot more to the story or else you've been misinformed.

Then you have teh Tulsi Gabbard case.. she comes out for Trump and then she gets added to a super secret TSA special processing checklist.
Once again, either there's a whole lot more to the story or it's BS. I'd bet on it being BS.
 
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Quick view of Google maps shows there is room to expand the airport. I’m sure they can get it done.
 
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plane cabin door lock.. great. not allowing you to pass security with a bottle of water or a coffee that you won't even carry onto a plane? Insane. Shoes off also. How many potential "shoe bombers" have been thwarted by that? I'd guess ZERO.
Have you forgotten the actual shoe bomber?


And the number of insane items that the TSA collects on a daily basis is mind boggling

Like the knife hidden in this guys FAKE FOOT!



 
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I have never been on a plane that waited 30-60 minutes waiting for a turn to take off out of EWR. And I fly quite a bit.

Also, Rutgers flies out of Trenton for some games. RU has options that Penn State does not.
beat me to it- I keep hearing of how EWR is horrible for delays but I have almost never had one if not for weather.

And Rutgers doesn't fly commercial- they charter.
 
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EWR may be closer, but every plane sits in line for 30-60 minutes waiting their turn to take off. Also flight paths into the 3 New York area airports add at least 30 minutes to every flight.
Flying out of Harrisburg, even with their 2 hour ride to the airport, may just result in a shorter overall trip to the west coast.
Jesus
 
Even for charter flights? I've never been on a charter flight so I wouldn't know but it seems like they get some special

beat me to it- I keep hearing of how EWR is horrible for delays but I have almost never had one if not for weather.

And Rutgers doesn't fly commercial- they charter.
Come on now. I have flown hundreds of times out of EWR and, like many major airports, once you taxi from the gate b the plane gets into a queue to the runway that may have as many as 15-20 planes in it. There is a one minute gap between each takeoff, so it routinely takes at least 15-20 minutes before the plane can take off. That’s when weather and other factors are not an issue.
At smaller airports planes routinely taxi right to the end of the runway and leave.
What I’m describing is not considered a delay. The airlines build extra time into flight schedules to allow for this when an airport like EWR is involved.
And I’m not complaining about this, just saying there are some advantages to flying out of less congested airports.

Full disclosure the great majority of my outbound flights from EWR departed around 6 AM on Mondays. And the great majority of my arrivals were on Friday nights.

And those saying this doesn’t apply to charter flights, I suspect most charter flights at EWR wait in the same queue, although I’m sure that there may be exceptions that get to skip the line.
 
I can guarantee Rutgers is not experiencing any flight delays in Newark airport.
It is also possible that they might cause a few delays.
No way they are making New Jersey’s Team wait!
Also that 25-30 minute trip up the turnpike is half the time with a trooper escourt!
I would venture to say Rutgers via. Newark airport is a smoother commute for most BIG teams than visiting our friends from crappy valley.
 
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Come on now. I have flown hundreds of times out of EWR and, like many major airports, once you taxi from the gate b the plane gets into a queue to the runway that may have as many as 15-20 planes in it. There is a one minute gap between each takeoff, so it routinely takes at least 15-20 minutes before the plane can take off. That’s when weather and other factors are not an issue.
At smaller airports planes routinely taxi right to the end of the runway and leave.
What I’m describing is not considered a delay. The airlines build extra time into flight schedules to allow for this when an airport like EWR is involved.
And I’m not complaining about this, just saying there are some advantages to flying out of less congested airports.

Full disclosure the great majority of my outbound flights from EWR departed around 6 AM on Mondays. And the great majority of my arrivals were on Friday nights.

And those saying this doesn’t apply to charter flights, I suspect most charter flights at EWR wait in the same queue, although I’m sure that there may be exceptions that get to skip the line.
of course there are queues duh - and then you get to the destination on time,

And college teams at this level charter...
 
I'd make the same arguments if I were their coach. PSU has it way worse than us in this respect but that's life. EWR is 20-25 minutes from Piscataway where you can basically fly to anywhere in the world from. Another reason why we made perfect sense as an expansion candidate.
So it’s an extra hour bus ride. Big deal. It’s not like the BIG is going to build an airport for him. So why put that in his players heads. Opposite of what Greg would do.
 
So it’s an extra hour bus ride. Big deal. It’s not like the BIG is going to build an airport for him. So why put that in his players heads. Opposite of what Greg would do.
The funny thing is- 99% of players can sleep anywhere at anytime.
The biggest issue is pre travel- and disruption of routine
 
Yeah, I don't believe that actually happens. Not the way you're describing it. There's either a lot more to the story or else you've been misinformed.


Once again, either there's a whole lot more to the story or it's BS. I'd bet on it being BS.
Check this youtube search.. pick a video.. any video

Here's a liberal reporter talking about Tulsi's treatment....

Local Hawaii news reporting on Tulsi watch list issue

I get it.. why you doubt these stories. They are shocking. Cannot be true.. right?

I am not saying that sarcastically. I mean it. I am not surprised at anyone who doubts these stories are true. But if you look at it all.. they seem true enough to me... and it is shocking.

That's all news.. I'll risk a political-oriented comment... I'm telling you all... it doesn't matter what side you are on or if you are on no side.. this trend should scare the hell out of you. The only "winning side" here will be the people at the top who pull all the strings. You may not be among the first targeted like Tulsi and MAGA supporters.. but they will get to you eventually when they get to a point where you refuse to obey.
 
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Check this youtube search.. pick a video.. any video

Here's a liberal reporter talking about Tulsi's treatment....

Local Hawaii news reporting on Tulsi watch list issue

I get it.. why you doubt these stories. They are shocking. Cannot be true.. right?

I am not saying that sarcastically. I mean it. I am not surprised at anyone who doubts these stories are true. But if you look at it all.. they seem true enough to me... and it is shocking.

That's all news.. I'll risk a political-oriented comment... I'm telling you all... it doesn't matter what side you are on or if you are on no side.. this trend should scare the hell out of you. The only "winning side" here will be the people at the top who pull all the strings. You may not be among the first targeted like Tulsi and MAGA supporters.. but they will get to you eventually when they get to a point where you refuse to obey.
Very enlightening! The hard way around this and something I advocate for all citizens is stop giving up your rights voluntarily. If you get detained anywhere assert your rights. There are thousands of videos done by lawyers asserting their rights that you can model how to handle any situational encounter with police. They want to search your bags in an airport? First get out your phone and start recording. 2) get on video names, department, badge # and rank. 3) assert your right that you do not consent to any searches of your person or property without a properly executed search warrant. 4) ask them if you are being detained and ask are you free to go. Anything but a “you are being detained” or hesitation of 5 seconds or more of no answer is grounds for you to leave.
You have to practice scenarios to properly execute them in the field.
The issue is people giving up their rights voluntarily rather than asserting their constitutional rights against “unreasonable search and seizure”. Just remember the constitution is there to restrain the government not the individual citizen. Stop voluntarily giving up your rights. End rant.
 
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I can guarantee Rutgers is not experiencing any flight delays in Newark airport.
It is also possible that they might cause a few delays.
No way they are making New Jersey’s Team wait!
Also that 25-30 minute trip up the turnpike is half the time with a trooper escort!
I would venture to say Rutgers via. Newark airport is a smoother commute for most BIG teams than visiting our friends from crappy valley.
That’s offered for the visiting team as well.

Not sure on the way out though.😎
 
Have you forgotten the actual shoe bomber?


And the number of insane items that the TSA collects on a daily basis is mind boggling

Like the knife hidden in this guys FAKE FOOT!




And yet, 20+ years later, Dept of Homeland Security has found TSA still fails to stop inspectors from smuggling weapons or explosives through screening checkpoints 80% - 95% of the time.

I get why they do it, but they are doing it so wrong it is virtually pointless.
 
That’s offered for the visiting team as well.

Not sure on the way out though.😎
Although I am not certain, It would not surprise me that Rutgers and visiting teams would depart and arrive at Signature Flight Support at KEWR. Signature is a world wide network of FBO's that are ultra private and allow you to go around the usual TSA nonsense. That is why very rich people fly privately, They literally get out of their car right next to the plane and climb aboard.
Rutgers football i would be willing to bet either does that or if they are contracted with a major carrier they would make arrangements to not have to go through TSA.
 
The Current runway at KUNV (Penn States Airport) is 6700 feet long. They really need a runway of 8000 - 8500 feet to get most widebody jets into and out of this airport safely. In aviation terms a runway lengtheing of this size is huge. Most runway lengthenings are ususally under 500 feet. What Penn State would need is 1300 - 1700 feet in length. This will be very interesting how this plays out. In most liberal run states the trend has been to close airports. This will be a real test for the government of Josh Shapiro to see if Penn State has the pull in Harrisburg.
 
Check this youtube search.. pick a video.. any video

Here's a liberal reporter talking about Tulsi's treatment....

Local Hawaii news reporting on Tulsi watch list issue

I get it.. why you doubt these stories. They are shocking. Cannot be true.. right?

I am not saying that sarcastically. I mean it. I am not surprised at anyone who doubts these stories are true. But if you look at it all.. they seem true enough to me... and it is shocking.

That's all news.. I'll risk a political-oriented comment... I'm telling you all... it doesn't matter what side you are on or if you are on no side.. this trend should scare the hell out of you. The only "winning side" here will be the people at the top who pull all the strings. You may not be among the first targeted like Tulsi and MAGA supporters.. but they will get to you eventually when they get to a point where you refuse to obey.
I don't doubt those stories because they are shocking. I doubt them because they are virtually always BS started on social media, the origins of which quickly disappear in the mad rush of the narrative-seekers to spread that BS because it somehow confirms some bias they've been convinced is important to them.

The thing that scares me is how easily misled so many Americans (on both sides of the aisle) are these days. Russia, China, North Korea and others are creating tens of thousands of fake social media accounts and spreading disinformation they know will appeal to the "party faithful" on both sides. That disinformation spreads exactly like a virus and then actual news organizations, which no longer care much about journalistic integrity, start reporting on it. That just fans the flames of the disinformation.

A ridiculously large percentage of Americans today willingly allow themselves to buy into some laughably nonsensical crap because it conforms with what they already believe to be true. Skepticism is a lost art and only a small minority of Americans appear to engage in skepticism of information that "sounds right" anymore.

When people start doubting our court system while unskeptically absorbing every narrative-enhancing tidbit from feedyourbias.com, we're all fvcked. And that's pretty much where we're at now.
 
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Although I am not certain, It would not surprise me that Rutgers and visiting teams would depart and arrive at Signature Flight Support at KEWR. Signature is a world wide network of FBO's that are ultra private and allow you to go around the usual TSA nonsense. That is why very rich people fly privately, They literally get out of their car right next to the plane and climb aboard.
Rutgers football i would be willing to bet either does that or if they are contracted with a major carrier they would make arrangements to not have to go through TSA.
I just meant for the commute down the Turnpike, the part I bolded in my post.

I saw Akron get their pregame escort while I was driving home.
 
I just meant for the commute down the Turnpike, the part I bolded in my post.

I saw Akron get their pregame escort while I was driving home.
I know what you meant. I was just giving some color on how Rutgers may handle flight logistics. signature allows them to pull right onto the tarmac unload the bus and head to the plane. I figure 30 minutes to EWR and 30 minutes to unload the bus and they can be in the air in an hour and 30 or 45 minutes. Compare that with the usual going through the terminal craziness and you have to be at the airport 3 hours ahead of scheduled flight.
 
Also expansion of the Runway at KUNV would help Rutgers and other visiting teams as they would not have to fly to Harrisburg and then do the two hour drive to State College. The Trip from EWR to UNV would be about an hour hop.
 
Very enlightening! The hard way around this and something I advocate for all citizens is stop giving up your rights voluntarily. If you get detained anywhere assert your rights. There are thousands of videos done by lawyers asserting their rights that you can model how to handle any situational encounter with police. They want to search your bags in an airport? First get out your phone and start recording. 2) get on video names, department, badge # and rank. 3) assert your right that you do not consent to any searches of your person or property without a properly executed search warrant. 4) ask them if you are being detained and ask are you free to go. Anything but a “you are being detained” or hesitation of 5 seconds or more of no answer is grounds for you to leave.
You have to practice scenarios to properly execute them in the field.
The issue is people giving up their rights voluntarily rather than asserting their constitutional rights against “unreasonable search and seizure”. Just remember the constitution is there to restrain the government not the individual citizen. Stop voluntarily giving up your rights. End rant.
You don’t have to consent but they don’t have to let you on the flight. Just saying
 
I know what you meant. I was just giving some color on how Rutgers may handle flight logistics. signature allows them to pull right onto the tarmac unload the bus and head to the plane. I figure 30 minutes to EWR and 30 minutes to unload the bus and they can be in the air in an hour and 30 or 45 minutes. Compare that with the usual going through the terminal craziness and you have to be at the airport 3 hours ahead of scheduled flight.
It does seem in many of the shots on social media that is what happens.

Don’t really see too many pics of our guys in the terminal(s).

Although, have noticed when traveling, that does not seem to be the case for many Olympic sports. Not RU specific, just other schools/teams and kids I’ve seen waiting just like the rest of us.
 
Also expansion of the Runway at KUNV would help Rutgers and other visiting teams as they would not have to fly to Harrisburg and then do the two hour drive to State College. The Trip from EWR to UNV would be about an hour hop.
If we are flying in and out of Harrisburg with a 2 hour bus ride, might just be easier to take a bus for the entire trip. Probably only a slightly longer trip.
 
Pedd St was always the worst bus ride. Never ending nothing.

As to flying to refuel, I've done that before. It's not ideal, but when you are on a private aircraft in an FBO, it's not that big of a deal. I'd do that before bussing 2 hours to Harrisburg or whatever.
 
It does seem in many of the shots on social media that is what happens.

Don’t really see too many pics of our guys in the terminal(s).

Although, have noticed when traveling, that does not seem to be the case for many Olympic sports. Not RU specific, just other schools/teams and kids I’ve seen waiting just like the rest of us.

When RU teams charter then don't go out of EWR. They go out of an FBO away from there. Football/Basketball always charter unless they are bussing.

I can't speak to the Olympic sports outside of MLAX but they charter once a year to the midwest game (OSU or UMich) unless the B1G tourney is there then they will charter there too. We have a generous alum who springs for that trip though.

There is talk of chartering to Pedd St now though. Fly up and back in the same day.
 
I don't doubt those stories because they are shocking. I doubt them because they are virtually always BS started on social media, the origins of which quickly disappear in the mad rush of the narrative-seekers to spread that BS because it somehow confirms some bias they've been convinced is important to them.

The thing that scares me is how easily misled so many Americans (on both sides of the aisle) are these days. Russia, China, North Korea and others are creating tens of thousands of fake social media accounts and spreading disinformation they know will appeal to the "party faithful" on both sides. That disinformation spreads exactly like a virus and then actual news organizations, which no longer care much about journalistic integrity, start reporting on it. That just fans the flames of the disinformation.

A ridiculously large percentage of Americans today willingly allow themselves to buy into some laughably nonsensical crap because it conforms with what they already believe to be true. Skepticism is a lost art and only a small minority of Americans appear to engage in skepticism of information that "sounds right" anymore.

When people start doubting our court system while unskeptically absorbing every narrative-enhancing tidbit from feedyourbias.com, we're all fvcked. And that's pretty much where we're at now.
Soo... that means you didn't even look. Good to know.

BTW.. if tomorrow or Friday full of social media saying Disney World and Universal got whacked with Tornadoes and then a hurricane.. it will likely be true. Multiple tornados creeping north along the peninsula.. Orlando square in both paths... though Milton is spending up and may pass south of Orlando now.
 
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Soo... that means you didn't even look. Good to know.

BTW.. if tomorrow or Friday full of social media saying Disney World and Universal got whacked with Tornadoes and then a hurricane.. it will likely be true. Multiple tornados creeping north along the peninsula.. Orlando square in both paths... though Milton is spending up and may pass south of Orlando now.
What does Hurricane Milton have to do with agenda-driven conspiracy theories?

A hurricane and any related tornados are facts that anybody can easily verify a dozen different ways including by conversing directly with many thousands of affected firsthand witnesses who collectively represent widely divergent agendas and biases. The fact of the hurricane or tornados existence and effects can be proven in a court of law using evidence that passes our justice's system's strict rules of evidence and legal procedures.

An agenda-driven conspiracy theory is a largely unprovable assertion with very few firsthand witnesses, if any. The firsthand witnesses virtually always share a particular, often political, agenda to go with their deeply held biases. Conspiracy theories thrive on hearsay, speculation, lazy reporting with little or no verification, cherry-picked partial facts (none of which ever makes it into a court of law due to never meeting the rules of evidence), and the fervent exclusion of any and all contradictory facts.

Oh, and BTW, I'm 100% for our government tracking people travelling with very large amounts of cash. If it's creating a real problem for legitimate travelers, then the authorities can establish a notification system whereby people who wish to travel with lots of cash can notify the authorities in advance so that the appearance of illegality (terrorism, money laundering, drug smuggling, tax evasion) can be investigated and the people cleared for travel without issues.

Sometimes in a society seeking to protect it's people, it's necessary to inconvenience us. I hate speeding laws, but understand why they have them.
 
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Nothing... just a social media comment since you brought it up rather than addressing any of the anecdotal stories/videos I linked for you.

You blew right past those to make a general comment avoiding the validity of any of it.. not saying they were not valid or true. Just changing teh subject. You didn't even search through the list to find the least plausible example and then go off on it as if it were representative of all of the examples.

Not very middle-of-the-road.. not very "no dog in this fight" of you. Instead, you carefully took a position in favor of malformation / misinformation / disinformation POWERS being granted to the government over and above any free speech rights guaranteed at teh time this nation was founded.

Good to know where you stand when we read your future protestations about being above petty politics.

Oh.. and I recall many of story about you speeding like a maniac. Rules for thee, eh? Yeah.. paints quite a picture.
 
You don’t have to consent but they don’t have to let you on the flight. Just saying
your statement is 100% correct and how they coerce people into letting search their luggage. My argument is too many of us have allowed law enforcement to run roughshod over our constitutional rights. We give in because its the path of least resistance, but as the first link in GOR's videos shows they are counting on people to give up their rights voluntarily and we are all making it harder on ourselves and our fellow citizens when we do it. The Government does it to corporations and high profile individuals too. When the government does it to a corporation, after years of litigation and negotiation, we read headlines like, XYZ company will pay a $100 million fine but does not admit or deny the charges filed against it." Giving in to the government does not do any of us any good but most certainly will weaken everyones rights in the present and future.
 
your statement is 100% correct and how they coerce people into letting search their luggage. My argument is too many of us have allowed law enforcement to run roughshod over our constitutional rights. We give in because its the path of least resistance, but as the first link in GOR's videos shows they are counting on people to give up their rights voluntarily and we are all making it harder on ourselves and our fellow citizens when we do it. The Government does it to corporations and high profile individuals too. When the government does it to a corporation, after years of litigation and negotiation, we read headlines like, XYZ company will pay a $100 million fine but does not admit or deny the charges filed against it." Giving in to the government does not do any of us any good but most certainly will weaken everyones rights in the present and future.
I kind of don't mind them searching luggage as I am getting on a plane that will be 30000 ft in the air with 300+ strangers. just saying
 
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I kind of don't mind them searching luggage as I am getting on a plane that will be 30000 ft in the air with 300+ strangers. just saying
That's because you always pack numerous pairs of block R underwear to represent and want to show that shit off. If more Americans thought like this nothing would change, of course, but I'd be in a better mood. I am RutgersRaRa, and I support this message.
 
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Nothing... just a social media comment since you brought it up rather than addressing any of the anecdotal stories/videos I linked for you.

You blew right past those to make a general comment avoiding the validity of any of it.. not saying they were not valid or true. Just changing teh subject. You didn't even search through the list to find the least plausible example and then go off on it as if it were representative of all of the examples.

Not very middle-of-the-road.. not very "no dog in this fight" of you. Instead, you carefully took a position in favor of malformation / misinformation / disinformation POWERS being granted to the government over and above any free speech rights guaranteed at teh time this nation was founded.

Good to know where you stand when we read your future protestations about being above petty politics.

Oh.. and I recall many of story about you speeding like a maniac. Rules for thee, eh? Yeah.. paints quite a picture.
Are you trying to say I am not being middle of the road? Which part of me saying that people on both sides do the same stuff isn't middle of the road? How does me liking our government being tough on crime and terrorism makes you think I'm choosing political sides? One thing I can always rely on is that party/ideology clingers will always see centrism as bias against them. 🙂

Lastly, you are once again mischaracterizing what I said. I never said anything about "government over and above free speech". That's just you making shit up.

You understand, right, that you'll never be persuasive by lying like that. You just discredit yourself.
 
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