How do they get off welfare if they don't have jobs?
OT: Nabisco plant in Fair Lawn off 208 to close
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How do they get off welfare if they don't have jobs?
Except these jobs are moving to Illinois and Oregon which have higher taxes. If you make 125k in Oregon it's taxed at 9%. Some to Georgia which only has slightly lower taxes than here. So either the government cut them a deal or there's something else at play.
Nothing against Mexico or any other country, but I am not looking to compete with them on lowest wage. I would however like to stop my taxes from paying for Medicaid for employees of companies who think slave wages are appropriate.
And the proposed increase is over several years. Not to go to $15 tomorrow.
Kind of like a few years ago when NJ passed a referendum to tie the minimum wage increase to inflation. The world was supposed to end and of course it didn't.
They are not moving to Oregon and Illinois. They going to Mexico. Brand new plant just built in Salinas, Mexico.
The primary reason probably the property taxes, not the state income tax.
No, as noted above, only a low percentage of the jobs are staying in the US: most of them are going to a new plant being built in Mexico.
Actually worker wages is primary reason Mondelez is moving business to Mexico.
I’m sure I’m not the only person wondering this, but what is a Nilla Wafer ? ... some sort of candy or cookie made from vanilla. I guess I answered my own question.
My favorite was the fish factory in belford where they made fertiliez. When the wind blew right Middletown smelled like crap.
When I lived in Plainsboro, you always knew when Firmenich was running a production shift as that entire section of town smelled like artificial grape flavor (think: Dimetapp)
We're very much heading towards becoming "The Warehouse State" instead. All those Nilla Wafers coming in from Mexico have to be stored somewhere before hitting store shelves. "Progress"
Y’all keep voting for the globalist Dems.
That was actually the main Corp. "Eagle" Building on DeForest Ave. where we had Marketing, Supply Chain, Leadership, and Sales Planning/Finance teams work. Called the Eagle building because it had a huge Chrome Eagle Statue out front. I worked there and the view out my window was the back of it. They closed that building as I was retiring in 2017 and moved everybody from there over to the "tech Center" which was about 500 yards away (a par 5) where R&D was housed. (I say a par 5 because as you probably know the location used to be a golf course before they built on it).
I don't recall any production facilities up there. The Plant on Main Line Phila was closed a few years ago too. I sure do miss all the free samples I got being in Sales. My Candy and Cookie Closet at home has long ago gone bare. :(
"Nilla Wafers was a cookie baked by Nabisco that included vanilla in the dough.
Isn’t that what people fawned over years ago ? The ability to have robots and computers do all the physical and mental work while people received payments to stay at home, travel and enjoy what we are owed in Life. Well that wish is coming true . More than most care to admit we are on the cusp of a beautiful carefree life.
Relax and enjoy everything “free” is coming soon. It’s going to be so wonderful .No worries and all you have to do is go along with the agenda.
Everything in life has consequences so the saying goes . Just realize this is a great opportunity for us to fund the World . An all in kind of society where one is free to come and go as they so choose never having to worry about anything.
they can build solar panels or write code, no?
Take your corporate Republic tripe to the current events board.
People are on this current ride of “ change the world” it’s going to be great. I think some are going to be be very disappointed in what actually happens in the near future. Progress is a wonderful thing if we only had people who really cared . Most don’t and just mouth the words to the common folk.
IL is #2 in property taxes, right behind NJ. OR is 23 and GA 26. So no great discount.
How High Are Property Taxes in Your State?
New Jersey has the highest effective rate on owner-occupied property at 2.21 percent, followed closely by Illinois (2.05 percent) and New Hampshire (2.03 percent).
taxfoundation.org
In a survey of American parents I'd love to know the percentage who would prefer their kids work in a factory over learning to code. That's always the plan for someone else's kid.
Even better. I'm not expecting American wages to compete with Mexican ones, not their taxes nor regulatory structure. No offense to Mexico, but the US is in a different state of development than Mexico is.
Mondelez is already a multi-national company in terms of manufacturing and retail of their food products around the world. The plant shutdown will effect somewhere ~500 jobs when combined with another Modelez location in Atlanta. This certainly sucks.....but there are about 60 Mondelez locations in the US including multiple in NJ for employees to try and catch on elsewhere in the company. Failing that, there are ~ 45 mid-large food manufacturers with headquarters or manufacturing locations in NJ. This does not include the hundreds of distribution locations.
The large manufacturers / food industry has been subject to consolidation, automation and job loss for the past 30 years. The good news is that there has been a surge of new products, innovation as well as expanded on-line distributive options and smaller scale manufacturers to pick up the slack as the typical US consumer craves ever more options.
The large manufacturers / food industry has been subject to consolidation, automation and job loss for the past 30 years. The good news is that there has been a surge of new products, innovation as well as expanded on-line distributive options and smaller scale manufacturers to pick up the slack as the typical US consumer craves ever more options.
Keep on allowing “home” Corporations to gouge profits at the expense of US jobs.
You’ve got it all wrong.
and those places will have it done to them, eventually if not sooner
Modernizing aging plants cost to much.
Moving production to other plants less expensive.
The company said: “Both Fair Lawn and Atlanta are no longer strategic assets from a geographic footprint perspective and both face significant operational challenges, including aging infrastructure and outdated production capabilities, which would have required significant investment to bring them to the modernized state required for the future,” the company said in a statement.
As for$15 minimum wages causing some places to shut or leave, the reason is the wages and bonuses of top management will be affected.
But the food stamps needed to go to the working poor to feed family and other government assistance will go down.
Keeping wages at less than poverty level helps some management types make a better bonus and higher wages.
The American way of thinking I got mine, and want more, keeps minimum wages down so higher wages go up.
There is a way to help the low paid earn a living wage and it starts at the top, along with the middle not acting like helping the low wage earner will be a burden to them.
The shame is: the top will try to do that so they don't have to accept less than the highest they can get for themselves.
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We used to run the Morris County Cross Country Championships there for years. I still have the course record since they stopped using it in the 90's I think
Oreos have been made in Mexico since 2016. Wages at the Mexico site come out to ~ $1 per hour.
Because the average factory worker can learn to write code and compete against low wage H1b workers from India?? Not happening in most cases.
Do you think that Mondelez is not performing any QC as to consistency to standards? Oreo is a prime brand.
