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no one answering my question....other than Flagg what player in the draft is more NBA ready than Ace?
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no one answering my question....other than Flagg what player in the draft is more NBA ready than Ace?
I think Ace can average 20 points a game on a bad team, because he will benefit greatly from playing in an NBA offense with lots of screens and ball movement. Its not a knock on Ace, its just young players who are going to make lots of mistakes are poor fits for contending teams.
Unlike many of you, I understood what NIL could do for RU. RU alums have spoken loudly. So enjoy what you all wanted. I'll just laugh at the meltdowns going forward.
Think we’re agreeing. This was more about what the Sixers should do if they get a top pick as they are (kind of) a contender.
Oh, I think a number of guys may be more NBA ready, even Dylan, but they don't have the ceiling Ace has.
It depends what you mean by “ready”. I think Dylan can be a really good utility player in the NBA from day one. His conditioning just isn’t there right now IMO to be effective in big minutes. He seems to get winded. Perhaps the flu bug and injuries made it look worse during the season than it was but it seemed to me the second half of the season he had a tough time running the floor “hard” consistently without looking exhausted.
His brother lost over 30 pounds from the end of his senior season just to be able to play in the G league. Dylan will be doing lots of training before the draft, and then whatever team picks him will have 4 months to get in NBA condition.
Guys are not drafted in the lottery to be utility players even from day 1. While they may not all ultimately pan out....the intention up front is to try and make them high profile impact players. Not sure how many on this board we even watch the NBA, but IMO Dylan seems much more NBA ready right now than Ace. Ace may have a higher ceiling but right now there are some issues. He projects as a 3 or 4 in the NBA but each presents some challenges. As a 3 he will need significant work on his handle and D against smaller/quicker players. As a 4 he will need to bulk up into his frame. IMO he will get there, but it may take a Year or 2.
NBA teams have significant off season conditioning programs - so I'm not sure I'm on board that minutes will be an issue for Dylan. He may hit a rookie wall at some point, but to me he seems much more NBA ready (right now) than Ace to contribute with impact immediately.
This analysis is all based on how they looked within Rutgers offensive system, if you can call it that, which served Dylan much better than Ace. For Ace we basically gave him the ball 30 feet from the basket, and would wish him luck as he tried to figure out what kind of shot he could get off. Ace will look like a different player in the NBA, playing in a motion offense designed to get him easier, open looks than he ever got at Rutgers. Dylan on the other hand will largely be expected to play the way he did at Rutgers, getting the ball out by the 3 point line and trying to get downhill. The challenge for him will be going up against bigger, stronger, faster defenders who are going to make him prove he can hit NBA 3s on a consistent basis, and if he struggles with that he may find it very difficult to get to the rim.
there could be an underlying asthma condition....or there may not be.
I disagree here...Ace can flat out shoot it with volume. He was making NBA type shots all year for us (and missing too).
Dylan has the issue of is he a PG or not.
Even when was Dylan playing more off the ball in high school, NBA teams were projecting him as a point guard because his size and ability to get to the rim fit a clear prototype that can be extremely effective in the NBA if executed at a high level. It is why he is a top 2-3 pick in the best draft in years. If teams were looking at him just as a 2 guard or combo guard, he likely wouldn’t even be a lottery pick, though still a 1st rounder.
that all is true....being a NBA PG year 1 when he doesn't have a ton of experience being 1 is going to be an adjustment.
Ace is going to be asked to score and he was NBA ready before he came to Rutgers.
...this is coming from a guy who has not watched more than 5 minutes of any NBA game in 10-15 years. (watching a classic game on NBA TV does NOT count)
Yes, and I know I am going to sound like a broken record on this, he is highly likely to get drafted by a bad team, so he will get to play 30 minutes a night and work on all the things he needs to do to be successful without a lot of pressure. Also, the one area that tends to be the biggest adjustment for NBA rookies, the much faster pace of play, is where I think he is likely to excel early, especially getting out on fast breaks. I worry more about how he will perform in half court sets.
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Scouts are looking at Bailey’s work at Rutgers and saying his shot selection contributed to our losing ways.
I don’t agree with that take FWIW, but it’s what it out there. People have him potentially sliding to 5/6 which would be dumb.
Your opinion is based on how you are guessi g you "think" the NBA is rather than what you know to be true.
Ace is ready made for the NBA in terms of athleticism and potential. He can get shots off from anywhere but will have a very difficult time with bigger grown men pushing him around. He's also not currently a consistent enough shooter from outside to be gameplanned as "the guy" and he has a lot of work to do on D in terms of being able to guard NBA wings.
Anyone who watched Cade Cunningham in the Knicks-Pistons series can project what Dylan can very well be. The NBA has essentially migrated to "Lead Guards" vs true point guards. I'll stand by my opinion that Dylan will be of higher impact than Ace out of the gate......the caveat is it really will come down to which teams draft these guys.
We shall see......or in your case.....maybe hear second or third hand since you don't watch NBA games. :)
He's not a project. Once he's in a professional system with better coaching, he'll more than likely be an even better player than we saw here.
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Definitely asthma. He was hitting the inhaler a lot in Indy.
Julian Reese has been looking nice in workouts. Unfortunately, I think we all know it isn’t going to happen for Cliff.
I didn't really pay attention to St John's. But I always wonder how a kid so good in college isn't even a consideration for NBA teams.
Like kadary Richmond, I'm about to go look at his stats because that confuses me..
Edit: *clears throat* just saw that he shot 17% from 3 for the year and 27% last year. Yikes lol
Guards who can't shoot aren't valued in the NBA unless they're lights out athletes who are great defenders.
I just looked and haven't seen anything posted for the official combine measurables yet.....just get a no data available message.
Duke had Flagg listed as 6'9" on their roster so it's not just RU inflating height.
There are a few ready to win next year franchises in the mix for this lottery you know these kids are semi crossing fingers to see Houston, San Antonio, Philly make it into top 3 and maybe Dallas although unlikely
I also think of the 3 teams with the best % chance for #1 pick Utah is by far the most well run organization and would probably be a soft landing spot for these guys
Washington… charlotte… New Orleans dumpster fires
I also think of the 3 teams with the best % chance for #1 pick Utah is by far the most well run organization and would probably be a soft landing spot for these guys
Washington… charlotte… New Orleans dumpster fires
Nice little shoutout from the espn panel to “Exit 9 on the Turnpike”..
Anyone who thinks all this draft coverage will be “negative” to Rutgers is certainly mistaken
Anyone who thinks all this draft coverage will be “negative” to Rutgers is certainly mistaken
Is the draft fixed to correct the Luka debacle, lol? Dallas just jumped to the top 4 along with Philly, Charlotte and San Antonio.
Edit: #4 Charlotte #3 Philly #2 San Antonio, LOL Dallas #1
Edit: #4 Charlotte #3 Philly #2 San Antonio, LOL Dallas #1
Why would they mention RU? Their focus is on their future tonight.
The announcers have mentioned RU a bunch already.
3 teams that dont REALLY need a top 4 pick Spurs Sixers Mavs
Poor Wizards and Poor Jazz fans lol
Tanking mavs purposely sit AD to miss playoffs get 1
Tanking trash Sixers get the 3rd pick after sitting George after glass man jo-L Inbed was injured Again !!
Tanking trash Sixers get the 3rd pick after sitting George after glass man jo-L Inbed was injured Again !!
Why did they keep showing and talking about Ace and Dylan?
Have them in attendance?
Many "draft experts" on this board said they weren't even 1st round picks.
Doesn't the NBA read this board.
Have them in attendance?
Many "draft experts" on this board said they weren't even 1st round picks.
Doesn't the NBA read this board.
Mavs also purposely tanked last season to keep their pick and not send it to the Knicks.
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