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OT: NY Rangers 2024-2025 Thread

I don't get the hate for Kreider. But if he's gone Perrault could replace his BC alumni (if he leaves BC after this year which I assume he will).
 
I don't get the hate for Kreider. But if he's gone Perrault could replace his BC alumni (if he leaves BC after this year which I assume he will).
its just moreso that hes broken down. Hes afraid to hit people and is a beta male. Hes a soft person and rangers are trying to get hard nosed
 
Drury had leverage with Goodrow’s and Trouba’s no trade clauses to orchestrate getting rid of them.

Panarin’s full no movement clause doesn’t give him anything to work with.

In addition, the Rangers still want to make the playoffs because that is a nice chunk of revenue for them.

Didn't realize Panarin had full no movement clause. Though I shouldn't be surprised since we gave them out like candy.
 
For me, he doesn't PLAY like a power forward, and on many nights feel his effort is lacking.
He had the athleticism to be one of a kind. Freakish body AND speed.

But never played physical enough, never seemed to "want" it enough, and was always very streaky.
 
I don't get the hate for Kreider. But if he's gone Perrault could replace his BC alumni (if he leaves BC after this year which I assume he will).
Perreault doesn’t play like Kreider at all. If anything, the skill set he brings (in type, not level) would put him as the replacement in the lineup for when Panarin is gone.

I expect the summer move would be for a big forward to replace Kreider (who hopefully brings the physicality Kreider never did)
 
In addition, the Rangers still want to make the playoffs because that is a nice chunk of revenue for them.
This was absolutely true back in the day - I knew the guy that saw, and had to hit, the MSG budget for 30+ years. It was hard coded in - Knicks and Rangers need 2 rounds, or we don’t make our numbers.

I without a doubt believe that the suits made hockey decisions based on that. That barn needed to be filled. With names. And the team needed to be just good enough to compete. Better than average. Winning a cup, was always the “goal”. But, it most definitely was within the parameters of the finances first.

But, while it’s still very important, I do question the relative significance, in terms of hockey decisions, of that playoff revenue in today’s cap age compared to years ago. Just a guess, but I’d be shocked if NYR were not one of the most profitable teams out there. For years, ownership/mgt was a revolving door, CEOs/Presidents came and went. And always a corp that needed to hit the numbers. In the cap age, I have no real clue on actual effects of lower and predictable costs, but I have to believe that it’s not nothing. Plus, we have Jimmy boy in charge and not a lot of empty suit bean counters. I feel that goofball works more by ego than anything else, especially P/L statements.

I could be way off on all of this, and it’s still same old, same old, lol. But, just throwing out food for thought.
 
I can't help but feel Kreider was "injured" right to the trade deadline, and then came back to register a strong, minus 2, defensive effort.
He's a pro, so I shouldn't think this way, but sometimes these guys drive me to assumptions.

The Rangers need to part ways with Kreidrr this summer. Great player when he's going, but too often I find myself asking: did Kreider play today?
 
Bruuuuutalll loss . Blew a 2 goal lead in the 3rd . Nice pass K’Andre
Cannot sign kandre long term. Mentally weak and one of the dumbest players in the league. So soft too
 
To quote Dandy Don Meredith

"Turn out the lights the party's over".
 
I’ll be surprised if Drury is let go too, but he should be.

He was allowed to mold the lineup more to his liking. I'm guessing he'll have the off season into next year. BUT, if they stumble next year, think he will have a very short leash.
 
Kreider returns to the lineup, Rangers lose 2 really big games against teams close to them in the wild card chase?
 
He was allowed to mold the lineup more to his liking. I'm guessing he'll have the off season into next year. BUT, if they stumble next year, think he will have a very short leash.
That’s what really concerns me. His “molding” is giving a hefty five year deal to 29 yo Borgen (that is the age most defensemen start falling off a cliff in performance), which also means they are throwing big money at KAM whose has played enough to know he is never going to stop making big mistakes.
 
Augh. Few observations from last nights game...

1 - Theyre simply a lousy team. There's not a single player that I can appreciate, at least other than the 4th line, and the score was closer than the game was.

2 - I'm sick of Shesterkin. I know he's been outstanding in the playoffs but it's FAR too much mediocre. How many awful goals can he surrender before you ask what the hell is he being paid for? They're already excusing his game losing gaaf on playing back to back.

3 - Don't care about the cap, I'm fine giving McDavid $20M when he's a free agent. His talent is unreal.
 
Augh. Few observations from last nights game...

1 - Theyre simply a lousy team. There's not a single player that I can appreciate, at least other than the 4th line, and the score was closer than the game was.

2 - I'm sick of Shesterkin. I know he's been outstanding in the playoffs but it's FAR too much mediocre. How many awful goals can he surrender before you ask what the hell is he being paid for? They're already excusing his game losing gaaf on playing back to back.

3 - Don't care about the cap, I'm fine giving McDavid $20M when he's a free agent. His talent is unreal.
Cuylle is a solid player for today’s NHL.

JT Miller has been productive, but they need to admit that his replacement of Trocheck on the first power play unit isn’t working. When you pass on the power play as much as the Rangers, the last thing you need is a guy who is sloppy with the puck and gives up possession too easy.

They won’t have $20 million in space left by summer 26 if they let Drury keep his job. We are going to have $20 million+ wrapped up in Fox, Miller and Borgen and still need a LHD to play with Fox.
 
Cuylle is a solid player for today’s NHL.

JT Miller has been productive
, but they need to admit that his replacement of Trocheck on the first power play unit isn’t working. When you pass on the power play as much as the Rangers, the last thing you need is a guy who is sloppy with the puck and gives up possession too easy.

They won’t have $20 million in space left by summer 26 if they let Drury keep his job. We are going to have $20 million+ wrapped up in Fox, Miller and Borgen and still need a LHD to play with Fox.
I see them both when they are on the ice.

But need more from the supporting cast.
 
Cuylle is a solid player for today’s NHL.

JT Miller has been productive, but they need to admit that his replacement of Trocheck on the first power play unit isn’t working. When you pass on the power play as much as the Rangers, the last thing you need is a guy who is sloppy with the puck and gives up possession too easy.

They won’t have $20 million in space left by summer 26 if they let Drury keep his job. We are going to have $20 million+ wrapped up in Fox, Miller and Borgen and still need a LHD to play with Fox.
Frustration in my post but agree on Cuylle. He's going to be a very good player.

JT seems to have cooled off a bit but can obviously play. Sadly, it's probably cemented as a W in the trade column as looks like Chytil suffered another concussion.
 
On a separate note, Chytil back in protocol for an uncalled hit from behind from Blackhacks Dickinson (?). No call on the play, and nothing from the league, so I'm hoping the next time the Rangers play the Blackhawks someone makes him pay.

Hoping Chytil is okay, but honestly this is what we were afraid of.
 
If the Rangers don’t make the playoffs, which is looking more and more likely, tonight’s game should be the nail in the coffin if getting rid of Lav hadn’t been decided yet. What a pitiful performance.
 
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Tonight was the most disgusting effort I can remember from a team that supposedly has talent. Lazy turnovers all over the ice. Only guy who decided they cared tonight was Shesterkin. At this point, I don’t even want them to make the playoffs.
 
Tonight was the most disgusting effort I can remember from a team that supposedly has talent. Lazy turnovers all over the ice. Only guy who decided they cared tonight was Shesterkin. At this point, I don’t even want them to make the playoffs.
Everyone on the team is a loser, either by choice, or by birth
 
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Tonight was the most disgusting effort I can remember from a team that supposedly has talent. Lazy turnovers all over the ice. Only guy who decided they cared tonight was Shesterkin. At this point, I don’t even want them to make the playoffs.
The problem with missing the playoffs is that they need to miss the playoffs by just a little bit.

Right now they sit at draft position 11, would keep this year’s pick, and Pittsburgh would have the 2026 pick, totally unprotected.

Drury (who should be shown the door with Lav) inexplicably put a Top 13 protection on the 2025 pick that went to VAN, even though this draft is not considered to be anywhere near 13 deep in high level prospects.
 
If the Rangers don’t make the playoffs, which is looking more and more likely, tonight’s game should be the nail in the coffin if getting rid of Lav hadn’t been decided yet. What a pitiful performance.

Tonight was the most disgusting effort I can remember from a team that supposedly has talent. Lazy turnovers all over the ice. Only guy who decided they cared tonight was Shesterkin. At this point, I don’t even want them to make the playoffs.
My son was watching on his phone and I could tell by his facial expressions and body language he was feeling the same way you guys were.
 
If anyone wants to erase the stench of the Ranger games they suffer through, I would recommend watching the NCAA men’s hockey tournament that starts on Thursday.

Pretty high level hockey where you can watch players who give a shit bust their ass all game.

I just got back from Boston watching the Maine Black Bears win the Hockey East tournament, and they are like the anti-Rangers. No real star players except the goalie, but they ice 18 skaters who put relentless pressure on the other team with a strong forecheck and stifling defense.
 
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Being outshot by Vancouver 25-6 through two periods. Miraculously, it’s a 1-1 game. Shesterkin, Rempe, Cullye, & maybe JT Miller are the only guys out there giving effort.
 
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Being outshot by Vancouver 25-6 through two periods. Miraculously, it’s a 1-1 game. Shesterkin, Rempe, Cullye, & maybe JT Miller are the only guys out there giving effort.
Time to gut the entire team and front office. Reboot!
 
@krup Does the top 13 protection gauruntee the Rangers kee the pic or give them the option to keep it?
That’s a really good question. If they have the option to keep it if they won the lottery then I should shut up and stop complaining because in that case the protection makes a lot of sense.
 
That’s a really good question. If they have the option to keep it if they won the lottery then I should shut up and stop complaining because in that case the protection makes a lot of sense.
@krup Does the top 13 protection gauruntee the Rangers kee the pic or give them the option to keep it?
Yes, if the pick is top 13, NYR have the option to keep it or not.

The only thing I’m not sure about is the timing. Like, do NYR need to decide at the end of the season, or after the lottery, or can they literally wait until the pick comes up during the draft?
 
Perreault supposedly with the Rangers by tomorrow. I hope they put him with JT and Cuylle.
 
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If anyone wants to erase the stench of the Ranger games they suffer through, I recommend watching the NCAA men’s hockey tournament that starts on Thursday.

Pretty high level hockey where you can watch players who give a shit bust their ass all game.

I just got back from Boston watching the Maine Black Bears win the Hockey East tournament, and they are like the anti-Rangers. No real star players except the goalie, but they ice 18 skaters who put relentless pressure on the other team with a strong forecheck and stifling defense.
You're in Maine, right?

Have to you been to the rehabbed facility there they play?
 
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