OT: OSU/UMich NIL

[ScarletNut]

Just wow. I had no Idea OSU spent 43 million in NIL this year.

It's make or break for Ryan Day with Ohio State-Michigan, the best rivalry money can buy

Ohio State coach Ryan Day can't afford another loss to Michigan, especially with the Wolverines now finally embracing pay to win NIL philosophy

www.usatoday.com

 

[rutgersguy1]

Without transparency, don’t trust any numbers that get reported. Just over the course of the season I’ve seen OSU numbers go from 12 to 20 to now 40. It’s gone exponential in 3 months lol.

 

[ScarletKid2008]

The universities or those associated with likely inflate these numbers as a recruiting and marketing tactics . It would certainly get my eye if I was a HS player or their “handlers”. Seeing a pool of x million out there that I can get some of

 

[jtung230]

The universities or those associated with likely inflate these numbers as a recruiting and marketing tactics . It would certainly get my eye if I was a HS player or their “handlers”. Seeing a pool of x million out there that I can get some of

But it works against you if you can’t deliver. So, they must be able to deliver. Most of the

 

[RUbacker]

Just wow. I had no Idea OSU spent 43 million in NIL this year.

It's make or break for Ryan Day with Ohio State-Michigan, the best rivalry money can buy

Ohio State coach Ryan Day can't afford another loss to Michigan, especially with the Wolverines now finally embracing pay to win NIL philosophy

www.usatoday.com

yet we still have fans in NIL denial.

 

[hinson32]

So what is different? Rutgers has never competed with Michigan or Ohio State. Before, during or after NIL.

 

[RUbacker]

So what is different? Rutgers has never competed with Michigan or Ohio State. Before, during or after NIL.

the difference is we have fans that dont acknowledge NIL as a factor.

 

[rutgersal]

the difference is we have fans that dont acknowledge NIL as a factor.

They don’t want to acknowledge it because they don’t want to give to NIL. That’s how it works.

 

[miket007]

Without transparency, don’t trust any numbers that get reported. Just over the course of the season I’ve seen OSU numbers go from 12 to 20 to now 40. It’s gone exponential in 3 months lol.

I heard in the low 20s before the season started. I've always hated on OSU but that gave me even more of a reason to hope they don't win it all this year...

 

[rutgersguy1]

I heard in the low 20s before the season started. I've always hated on OSU but that gave me even more of a reason to hope they don't win it all this year...

There are so many numbers thrown out and you can’t believe them. I posted that Bloomberg article showing how opaque things are and how so much is secretive and how they can lie. It can be true to misleading to outright lies..who knows.

When schools play players NIL, I tend to think that will be transparent like coaching contracts and there will be better idea of what’s what. Of course there will still be NIL outside of that will still be opaque.

 

[chase_NJ]

So what is different? Rutgers has never competed with Michigan or Ohio State. Before, during or after NIL.

The difference is the portal allows kids to move in an open free agent market each year. You think we would have been able to hold onto Ray Rice or Kenny Britt 17-18 years ago in this climate?

 

[LETSGORU91]

Without transparency, don’t trust any numbers that get reported. Just over the course of the season I’ve seen OSU numbers go from 12 to 20 to now 40. It’s gone exponential in 3 months lol.

That trajectory wouldn't surprise me if that is how it escalated. The best teams with the biggest pockets will continue to try and outbid each other.

 

[DennisHajekRC84]

I don't expect us to beat these teams in this new world nor would I even want us to try and compete with these semi-pro schools. Just be well coached and disciplined team that is competitive in the mid-pack. If it wasn't for the cash they bring in I'd rather see these football factories just split off into a semi-pro organization and let the rest compete in a model at least somewhat closer to student-athlete.

 

[RUbacker]

I don't expect us to beat these teams in this new world nor would I even want us to try and compete with these semi-pro schools. Just be well coached and disciplined team that is competitive in the mid-pack. If it wasn't for the cash they bring in I'd rather see these football factories just split off into a semi-pro organization and let the rest compete in a model at least somewhat closer to student-athlete.

hopefully the money disparity issue gets solved in the next couple of years but don’t expect the blue bloods to go along with it.

 

[NickRU714]

hopefully the money disparity issue gets solved in the next couple of years but don’t expect the blue bloods to go along with it.

Huh? We are a blue blood in the money disparity.

Do you think Kennesaw State and Rutgers should be operating on the same monetary level?

It's quite funny how two-faced the "money disparity is ruining college athletics" arguments tend to be.

People want the money disparity fixed - but only the money disparity that effects Rutgers.
Conveniently ignore the huge money disparity that separate Rutgers from 90% of the rest of college athletics.

 

[RUbacker]

Huh? We are a blue blood in the money disparity.

Do you think Kennesaw State and Rutgers should be operating on the same monetary level?

It's quite funny how two-faced the "money disparity is ruining college athletics" arguments tend to be.

People want the money disparity fixed - but only the money disparity that effects Rutgers.
Conveniently ignore the huge money disparity that separate Rutgers from 90% of the rest of college athletics.

lol i never said any of that but i guess you can read my mind. there needs to be rules for all teams based on what level or tier they play in . FBS and FCS don’t have to be the same but there should be same rules within the division.

 

[newell138]

They don’t want to acknowledge it because they don’t want to give to NIL. That’s how it works.

Or maybe they have better, more important things to spend their money on?

 

[jtung230]

Or maybe they have better, more important things to spend their money on?

It’s the number of donors that’s pathetic. It doesn’t have to be a lot of money. This is the state where everyone acts like big shot and trying to keep up with the Jones.

 

[NickRU714]

lol i never said any of that but i guess you can read my mind. there needs to be rules for all teams based on what level or tier they play in . FBS and FCS don’t have to be the same but there should be same rules within the division.

There are the same rules.
FBS has 130 CFB and 300+ CBB teams.
What rules are different for certain teams?
Rutgers and Kennesaw State and Temple and OSU have the same rules.

Sorry for inferring too much on you.

So when you said "money disparity" - did you mean the overall money disparity between Rutgers and Kennsaw State and Temple?

 

[rutgersguy1]

Huh? We are a blue blood in the money disparity.

Do you think Kennesaw State and Rutgers should be operating on the same monetary level?

It's quite funny how two-faced the "money disparity is ruining college athletics" arguments tend to be.

People want the money disparity fixed - but only the money disparity that effects Rutgers.
Conveniently ignore the huge money disparity that separate Rutgers from 90% of the rest of college athletics.

We're in the P2 and when schools start paying players (initially around a 20M+ cap next year), that'll be helpful to find the money in the budget when you're in the P2 vs any other conferences in the FBS.

 

[RUbacker]

There are the same rules.
FBS has 130 CFB and 300+ CBB teams.
What rules are different for certain teams?
Rutgers and Kennesaw State and Temple and OSU have the same rules.

Sorry for inferring too much on you.

So when you said "money disparity" - did you mean the overall money disparity between Rutgers and Kennsaw State and Temple?

when i say rules im talking about money rules . yes so all 130 can teams have to abide by same money rules. not sure why you can’t seem to understand.

 

[Hardslider21]

when i say rules im talking about money rules . yes so all 130 can teams have to abide by same money rules. not sure why you can’t seem to understand.

Huh? The rules will never be equal or fair. 2025 starts revenue sharing roughly $20M per team. How’s a G5 school to spend that? With a million dollar tv deal?

Even with revenue sharing, NIL isn’t going anywhere. Paying prospects has gone on for 50 years. Sure a team like Rutgers could buy a team once in a while. But the true blue bloods can out spend or sustain it every year.

 

[NickRU714]

when i say rules im talking about money rules . yes so all 130 can teams have to abide by same money rules. not sure why you can’t seem to understand.

There are no rules (money or otherwise) that don't apply to everyone.
What rules are you talking about?

You said blue bloods and I was just pointing out that Rutgers is a blue blood among the 130 CFB programs when it comes to money to spend.

 

[ashokan]

Watching Ohio vs Michigan I cant see where the NIL bought much

 

[RUbacker]

There are no rules (money or otherwise) that don't apply to everyone.
What rules are you talking about?

You said blue bloods and I was just pointing out that Rutgers is a blue blood among the 130 CFB programs when it comes to money to spend.

michigan just paid a kid over 10 million to flip to them . how about we start there and limit player pay outs. RU is a blue blood ? have you seen our NIL ? lol ok you are exhausting to have a conversation with , im out .

 

[NickRU714]

michigan just paid a kid over 10 million to flip to them . how about we start there and limit player pay outs. RU is a blue blood ? have you seen our NIL ? lol ok you are exhausting to have a conversation with , im out .

You realize Michigan didn't break any rule, right?
The money rules apply to everyone.

Oh, so like I said earlier (which you refuted), you only care about money rules that effect Rutgers and not all of college athletics? Got it.

Why player payouts? What about every other school payout that benefits Rutgers over other schools?

Rutgers has more money to spend that 90%(more??) than of college athletics programs.
Yes, that makes us a "blue blood" in terms of college athletics.

 

[RUbacker]

You realize Michigan didn't break any rule, right?
The money rules apply to everyone.

Oh, so like I said earlier (which you refuted), you only care about money rules that effect Rutgers and not all of college athletics? Got it.

Why player payouts? What about every other school payout that benefits Rutgers over other schools?

Rutgers has more money to spend that 90%(more??) than of college athletics programs.
Yes, that makes us a "blue blood" in terms of college athletics.

for the hundredth time genius i am not saying we have rules now its the freaking wild west im saying we NEED rules. you can’t be this dumb.

 

[Scarlet Craig]

Huh? We are a blue blood in the money disparity.

Do you think Kennesaw State and Rutgers should be operating on the same monetary level?

It's quite funny how two-faced the "money disparity is ruining college athletics" arguments tend to be.

People want the money disparity fixed - but only the money disparity that effects Rutgers.
Conveniently ignore the huge money disparity that separate Rutgers from 90% of the rest of college athletics.

I don’t care if it gets fixed. To be frank, we won’t catch up even if we match their NIL. It’s just stupid at this point.

 

[LETSGORU91]

Rutgers has more money to spend that 90%(more??) than of college athletics programs.
Yes, that makes us a "blue blood" in terms of college athletics.

I have never, ever, ever heard the term "blue blood" and Rutgers linked to each other until today. When one thinks of blue blood, I would think just about the entire population does not define it as how much money is available to spend.