And if somebody outside of "the club" decided to cheat and was good at it, the schools in "the club" would complain to the NCAA, whose job was to make an example of someone who was previously no one.
OT: QB Bryce Underwood flips to Mich for 10.5M
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Truth.
But it’s (somehow?!) worse. “The Club” schools ARE the NCAA. Quite the shell game these schools pulled off - creating a boogeyman that they can simultaneously blame for all the sports/worlds ills AND provide cover for their dirty work.
Very reminiscent of this quote:
“The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn’t exist”—Charles Baudelaire
People have always flipped recruits for money. A decade ago UM might have been able to flip him for 500k-1M in under the table incentives. Now above table it costs 10 mil. The money doesn’t make the player better, it just means the donors are dumber. This is why NIL doesn’t bother me, the top teams always outbid the smaller teams. The bidding is taking place at a higher multiple now, but the outcomes are largely the same. Playing time is still a finite variable.
Sounds cheap compared to this
Duct-taped banana sells for $6.2 million at art auction
“Comedian,” by Italian artist Maurizio Cattelan, was a phenomenon when it debuted in 2019 at Art Basel Miami Beach, as festivalgoers tried to make out whether the single yellow piece of fruit affixed to a white wall with silver duct tape was a joke or cheeky commentary on questionable standards...
Didn't realize Larry Ellison had a connection with Michigan or that he was married. He attended Illinois and University of Chicago and was born in the Bronx. I didn't realize he was currently married but his wife may have attended Michigan.
www.themirror.com
Meet world's second-richest man who funded Michigan's pursuit of Bryce Underwood
Billionaire Larry Ellison, one of the richest men in the world, was praised for playing a defining role in Michigan's success in flipping LSU commit Bryce Underwood, the No. 1 player in the 2025 class
www.themirror.com
Jolin attended - nice when your 5th wife can get you to fund Michigan’s NIL program.Didn't realize Larry Ellison had a connection with Michigan or that he was married. He attended Illinois and University of Chicago and was born in the Bronx. I didn't realize he was currently married but his wife may have attended Michigan.
Meet world's second-richest man who funded Michigan's pursuit of Bryce Underwood
Billionaire Larry Ellison, one of the richest men in the world, was praised for playing a defining role in Michigan's success in flipping LSU commit Bryce Underwood, the No. 1 player in the 2025 class
Michigan - Oracle
Oregon - Nike
Ohio State - Nationwide & Safelite
Penn State - Westshore & Inch Company
USC - rich alumni everywhere
I saw those comments and it's quite hypocritical considering he left TT for Cincy out of the blue.
I don't know why so many keep acting like there's some big problem out there, it's like some boogeyman. IMO what we're seeing now is the best CFB has been in forever or maybe ever. When do we see a team like Cincy get to the final 4 in CFB. TCU? Michigan and Washington doing things they haven't done in a generation. IU this year, Colorado or BYU or ISU maybe, Vandy pulling off its biggest upset ever etc...isn't this what we want as fans. Seeing hope and opportunity all over and having hope for your own team going into any season....1 season turnarounds.
I remember not that long ago everyone was sick of seeing Alabama, Clemson, OU in the playoffs all the time and now we're seeing the pool widen from the top on down. That's a good thing, not something to complain about imo.
Winning an actual championship is still fairly exclusive but it's probably a wider pool than before and for the ones that can't there are still a lot of nice goals to achieve that weren't achievable before.
Actual spending on football assistant coaches and support staff was $17.8 million in fiscal 2024. Fiscal 2025 budget is probably $19 to $20 million, driven by Harasymiak's two raises.
If the Blue Blood teams of the SEC and B1G start to lose to Teams that can afford to BUY their recruits via NIL, they will call for regulation of the NIL process.
As I stated before SMU wanted admission to the ACC Conference and agreed not to receive any money from the conference for a number of years (No Problem). With the NIL system in place they are now a formidable power (No problem).
I read that SMU raised $160 million from their donors last year (No problem).
My speculation is that similar to the NCAA mandating that each team can only have 85 scholarship players, they may set a maximum amount of NIL money each team can spend in total for a given year.
In other words you can contribute the (max limit) on 5 players or on 20 players (something similar to the NFL salary cap). Legally this would have to play out.
Without any controls a team could spend $50 million per year for NIL recruits (provided they have the donors/money) and get the Rival 5/4 star recruits they want (don't think those recruits will care about a rival team having a better field house. LOL.).
Without any controls I think the average fan/school administrations will start to lose interest in college sports.
Many college budgets are financially strained and some schools are starting to cut academic programs. Money for NIL (No Problem),
Just watch the NFL.
HAIL TO PITT!!!!
As I stated before SMU wanted admission to the ACC Conference and agreed not to receive any money from the conference for a number of years (No Problem). With the NIL system in place they are now a formidable power (No problem).
I read that SMU raised $160 million from their donors last year (No problem).
My speculation is that similar to the NCAA mandating that each team can only have 85 scholarship players, they may set a maximum amount of NIL money each team can spend in total for a given year.
In other words you can contribute the (max limit) on 5 players or on 20 players (something similar to the NFL salary cap). Legally this would have to play out.
Without any controls a team could spend $50 million per year for NIL recruits (provided they have the donors/money) and get the Rival 5/4 star recruits they want (don't think those recruits will care about a rival team having a better field house. LOL.).
Without any controls I think the average fan/school administrations will start to lose interest in college sports.
Many college budgets are financially strained and some schools are starting to cut academic programs. Money for NIL (No Problem),
Just watch the NFL.
HAIL TO PITT!!!!
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They've already set a limit the schools can pay. It's like low 20M area for next year. NIL outside of that, there isn't a limit and I don't think the courts will allow there to be a limit but I think it would self regulate based on return. Plus I've always said there's a balance between playing time and money and every player is different in what they want. Portal also allows a player to get paid for a year or 2 at one place and then leave for other opportunities if playing time isn't available.
Professional teams can regulate/mandate but college teams cannot.
In the end NIL may still hurt the schools. Alums/friends who would contribute to a schools endowment or research facility construction for example may instead contribute to the NIL and give nothing to the endowment/research facility.
So colleges in the end may indirectly be paying for NIL.
HAIL TO PITT!!!!
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You could say the entire athletic department hurts the school under the same reasoning.
Alums/friends who would contribute to a schools endowment or research facility construction for example may instead contribute to the AD to pay for private plan jet fuel or a HC country club membership or a HC annual clothing stipend and give nothing to the endowment/research facility.
I would almost guarantee AD donations are higher than NIL at nearly every school.
Everyone is talking about 10m over 4 years.
Don't most high major AD get well over $10m annually in "donations?
It did. But Oregon didn't win a championship and their recruiting didn't provoke blueblood ire like SMU did. If they had beaten Ohio State in the playoff, the NCAA would have landed on them like a ton of bricks.
Contributions to the Athletic Dept. provide resources for athletic scholarships for our 19 sponsored sports programs and capital projects.
NIL funding to pay student athletes now and in the future will only increase the financial strain on colleges with reduced contributions by alums/friends to more critical areas.
HAIL TO PITT!!!!
When I read the $160 million figure, the only reason I leaned toward believing it is you write informed posts. I checked and you are correct.
That could be the biggest donations haul in college sports history by far. To put in perspective, in 2022-2023 Texas A&M pocketed $115 million and Texas pulled in $85 million.
Rutgers? Last-in-power-5 donations of $6 million.
Yes. In 2023 fiscal year, 51 out of 52 public power 5 school athletic departments raised more than $10 million in donations.
The only school under $10 million was Rutgers at $6 million.
The private schools don't release their financial reports. However, the SMU press release from June 2024 suggests they are keeping up if not doing better than their public power 5 peers.
So this is sort of why I don’t care as much as I normally would about today’s debacle. This is ridiculous.
