That sounds worse than Larry David's sandwichIt's funny regarding boars head. I actually like other brands of cold cuts. But maybe about a year or so ago- I literally got a hankering for a liverwurst sandwich. I go to the Market Basket up here and ordered it- and of course they used boars head. About a month later, boars head LW started killing people. lol
And my go to for LW- is thick cut white bread- (never liked rye) - Red Onions, Long hots(or banana pepper) lettuce, tomato, Spicy brown mustard on bottom slice of bread and mayo on top slice, salt and pepper.
But damn ass glad it didn't kill me. lol
Anyone born before 1906 is welcome to call it Taylor HamJust need to know the history...Easy way to put it for those that may still be confused : Taylor ham is, in fact, a pork roll, but not all pork rolls are Taylor Ham.
Myself- I love the flavor and texture of Taylor ham vs the competitors of other pork rolls. So, if I am in the mood for the sandwich- I prefer TH. If the deli has one of the other brands, I will usually go with bacon instead. If someone doesn't care which brand it is- then, by all means ask for pork roll. But if you want the best, make sure their pork roll is Taylor Ham.
The government made them change the packaging name. But they called the product Taylor "Ham" from the first day they made it...
"Taylor Provisions, Inc. was the first manufacturer of the pork roll. It was initially named Taylor's Prepared Ham. However, in 1906, the company was forced to drop the name because it no longer met the requirements to be labeled a ham. Thus, the name pork roll came about. "
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The History of Taylor Ham and Pork Roll
We know that Taylor Ham and Pork Roll are essentially the same things. How are two separate names responsible for the same product? What is the history there?
To understand the history, we must go back to the very beginning. In 1856, a popular businessman named John Taylor started to produce Taylor ham. Essentially, it was a roll of meat, originally called Taylor's Ham.
Everything was going well until 1906. This was when the Pure Food and Drug Act went into effect. This act caused Taylor to change the packaging name on his Taylor Ham because it did not meet the label ham requirements.
Therefore, the Taylor Ham was renamed pork roll. This was all great until Taylor tried to trademark the name pork roll. However, he was denied the trademark. Of course, when this happened, competitors started coming out of the woodwork. Now, several manufacturers produce pork rolls, but Taylor Ham will always be the original.
Some say no one can come close to the flavor of the original pork roll, Taylor Ham. However, many have tried."
My point is pretty much along the same lines...Taylor Ham and the other brands of Pork Roll are all Pork Roll. Myself- I don't call "any" Pork roll Taylor Ham. So, if I say I want a TH/E/C, I mean just that. And I do not know of a deli I have been at in Northern NJ that advertises their sandwich as Taylor Ham unless they do in fact have Taylor Ham. I am sure there are some, but I have not seen it.
On the other hand- if at a diner and all their products are out of sight, then you never know what brand they may be using, even if they call it TH.
If I am in a deli that advertises a PR/E/C - I will usually ask what brand. If I see TH and another brand in the deli case, I would ask for the TH specifically. Much like I would ask for the Boars Head Roast Beef.
Maybe other call every single PR Brand Taylor Ham and if they do, they are also wrong to do so.
Which would be Taylor Ham lol 😂Have you considered that you might have reached a point in life where you like to argue just to argue.......even about things that are likely pretty trivial in the grand scheme of life?
I'll concede the debate to you as maybe we must have different overall philosophies on what makes us salty......it's just not a big deal to me if I ask for TH, Egg & Cheese and they serve me Case Pork Roll......maybe its because I use the terms inter-changeably. Also - I've rarely if ever worried about what was advertised a on the "Big Boards" in mom & pop delis / bagel joints. I generally know what I'm looking for and just ask for it.
Can't argue with that.Which would be Taylor Ham lol 😂
If it's the real NJ pork roll why do you call it ham? 😁It is the real NJ pork roll. 😜 you guys can call the other crap “pork roll” but if anyone wants the best and wants to know they are getting the best- you get TH.
And more than likely get Trenton!Can't argue with that.
When you want the best: order Taylor Ham
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I identify as being born before 1906 ever time I order one. 😂Anyone born before 1906 is welcome to call it Taylor Ham
You're bolded comment is 100% wrong. If you order a Taylor Ham, egg and cheese can the deli/diner can give you any pork roll as Taylor Ham never existed and is a generic name for pork roll. There is no trademark for "Taylor Ham"Just need to know the history...Easy way to put it for those that may still be confused : Taylor ham is, in fact, a pork roll, but not all pork rolls are Taylor Ham.
"Taylor Provisions, Inc. was the first manufacturer of the pork roll. It was initially named Taylor's Prepared Ham.
To understand the history, we must go back to the very beginning. In 1856, a popular businessman named John Taylor started to produce Taylor ham. Essentially, it was a roll of meat, originally called Taylor's Ham.
You do know that before 1906 there was no prepackaged sliced being sold at at grocery stores as most grocery stores didn't exist and and shrink wrapping meat didn't either. But nice, funny try!my choice is the only choice for ordering the best![]()
If the name Taylor Ham never existed, then why were they forced to change their name?You're bolded comment is 100% wrong. If you order a Taylor Ham, egg and cheese can the deli/diner can give you any pork roll as Taylor Ham never existed and is a generic name for pork roll. There is no trademark for "Taylor Ham"
The second bolded statement you are 100% correct that the name was Taylor's Prepared Ham. Up until 1906
Last bolded is completely wrong. As "Taylor Ham" never existed.
At least you got the Taylor Prepared Ham correct somewhere in there.
I'm more of a grazer than a gluten, one would be it for me in 10 mins. Now give me an hour or two and I could do some damage.Hard roll, 3 slices of meat, 1 egg, 1 slice of cheese. How many you think you could down? Maybe 3 for me.
Even more simple because they had the word ham in Taylor Prepared Ham even if they used actual ham.If the name Taylor Ham never existed, then why were they forced to change their name?
Hint: because they called it Taylor Ham and there was no actual ham in the product.
You do realize they have completely different packaging...And more than likely get Trenton!
You are correct- Taylor Prepared Ham…I just shortened it for the sake of it sorting another completely different discussion. LolYou're bolded comment is 100% wrong. If you order a Taylor Ham, egg and cheese can the deli/diner can give you any pork roll as Taylor Ham never existed and is a generic name for pork roll. There is no trademark for "Taylor Ham"
The second bolded statement you are 100% correct that the name was Taylor's Prepared Ham. Up until 1906
Last bolded is completely wrong. As "Taylor Ham" never existed.
At least you got the Taylor Prepared Ham correct somewhere in there.
Simply ask for a Taylor Pork Roll, egg and cheese and your good.You are correct- Taylor Prepared Ham…I just shortened it for the sake of it sorting another completely different discussion. Lol
The first point- legally, I am sure you are right. But, if they specifically identify it as Taylor Ham, then that is consumer should have every expectation that it isn’t someone else’s pork roll.
You do realize I explained this to you in the past. Taylor is the retail name not the brand distributed to restaurants/delis etc…You do realize they have completely different packaging...
So- you are telling me that if a deli has the Taylor packaging on their pork roll in the display case they stuffed Trenton in it instead?You do realize I explained this to you in the past. Taylor is the retail name not the brand distributed to restaurants/delis etc…
"Central Jersey" for Northwest Morris? You remind me of a guy from Mahwah I know that refers to Linden NJ as "South Jersey".I’ve noticed that a lot of you Central Jersey people like the generic pork roll crap too. lol
Laughing as I knew that would trigger you. lol"Central Jersey" for Northwest Morris? You remind me of a guy from Mahwah I know that refers to Linden NJ as "South Jersey".
No egg! Just hard roll, pork roll, and cheese. :)Do you guys like the egg fried but runny or scrambled?
People that say jimmies instead of sprinkles need an ass kicking.It’s like the sprinkles/jimmies argument. Who cares?
Jimmies are chocolate. Sprinkles are multi-color.People that say jimmies instead of sprinkles need an ass kicking.
This is the answer but too many want to force "it's pork roll" down people's throats when it's clearly been called both throughout it's history.People should just call it what they want and let others call it what they want!
Not at all. But there’s a good chance just because you order “Taylor Ham” you’re not garunteed and more than likely you are not. Many delis only slice Taylor for cold cuts and not for sandwiches. Heard from the horses mouth (plant manager at Taylor) they have less than a 5-10% distribution to deli/restaurants. Trenton is their commercial brand Taylor is their retail.So- you are telling me that if a deli has the Taylor packaging on their pork roll in the display case they stuffed Trenton in it instead?
What wrong with you??🙄No egg! Just hard roll, pork roll, and cheese. :)
It does explain something’s, doesn’t it?What wrong with you??🙄
Can't argue with that!!It does explain something’s, doesn’t it?
So, the mom and pop up here in NNJ- with TH in the deli case, the menu that says TH- and their locals who order it, and the deli owner who relies on these people and also grew up “TH” is substituting a different pork roll?Not at all. But there’s a good chance just because you order “Taylor Ham” you’re not garunteed and more than likely you are not. Many delis only slice Taylor for cold cuts and not for sandwiches. Heard from the horses mouth (plant manager at Taylor) they have less than a 5-10% distribution to deli/restaurants. Trenton is their commercial brand Taylor is their retail.
Yea okay. Believe what you may. I’m sure all your so called mom and pops display “Taylor” in the display case. And everyone above the “line” that has it on the menu as “ Taylor ham” Serves it. But I guess the guy that makes the product doesn’t know his customer.So, the mom and pop up here in NNJ- with TH in the deli case, the menu that says TH- and their locals who order it, and the deli owner who relies on these people and also grew up “TH” is substituting a different pork roll?
What you are saying is normal in central and south NJ and why you just see it as PR.
Dinners up in the north May do it too. But, a NNJ deli that says TH, displayed it, better serve it.
And anywhere in the world, including NNJ- if their menu says Pork Roll- then serve what you want.
So, I already said, there is no way to know if a diner that does everything behind the scenes is serving anything they advertise but, if their menu says say TH, then they should be serving it. I’m not sure why that confuses you but should clear up what I am saying.Yea okay. Believe what you may. I’m sure all your so called mom and pops display “Taylor” in the display case. And everyone above the “line” that has it on the menu as “ Taylor ham” Serves it. But I guess the guy that makes the product doesn’t know his customer.
It doesn’t confuse me. It apparently confuses you and the rest of the “Taylor Ham” world. If you think because you generically call something “Taylor Ham” it is going to magically appear in your sandwich. Yea I only order “house” roasted roast beef so it doesn’t come in some package. Hahaha.So, I already said, there is no way to know if a diner that does everything behind the scenes is serving anything they advertise but, if their menu says say TH, then they should be serving it. I’m not sure why that confuses you but should clear up what I am saying.
But, almost every deli I go to, has a display case. You get to ask to see the roast beef to see if it is rare enough, you see if it is boars head or another brand and you see the pork roll they are serving.
Why is this an argument?
Would you be happy to know that’s where they really get Taylor Ham/porkroll.